Re: [Mailman-Users] templates/en/newlist.txt

2003-03-21 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 12:30, Will Froning wrote: I've noticed that Mailman is kind enough to apply some formatting changes to my newlist.txt template when it sends the file out. Is there a way to keep Mailman from joining these lines? Start the lines with whitespace. Mailman won't wrap such

Re: [Mailman-Users] Interesting Mailman-Postfix Churning: Userunknown in local recipient table

2003-03-21 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 21:16, Jeremy Butler wrote: I encountered an interesting case of, I think, Mailman-provoked Postfix churning this afternoon. For several hours, Postfix and Mailman kept going in circles (see below). Fortunately, when I restarted Postfix, the churning stopped. This

Re: [Mailman-Users] exim -mailman faq - not working

2003-03-21 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mon, 2003-01-27 at 16:28, Jon Carnes wrote: ~mailman/bin/genaliases in mentioned in: NEWS UPGRADING README.POSTFIX Sorry, it looks like the genaliases script is designed specifically to be used with Postfix... Hmmm. Seems like it could easily be made MTA neutral, and still be

Re: [Mailman-Users] Re: Error messages using Postfix v.2.0.6

2003-03-21 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 17:58, Ted Dively wrote: On Friday, Mar 21, 2003, at 13:08 US/Pacific, Andre Ricardo wrote: Do what the message says, recompile with --with-mail-gid=nobody As my original post says, I *did* this, but I get the exact same error, only with nobody and mailman

Re: [Mailman-Users] nntp authentication

2003-03-21 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 15:43, Todd wrote: I think you have to restart mailmanctl after you do this, but I'm not sure. Any time you make a change to mm_cfg.py you need to restart mailmanctl, otherwise none of the qrunners will see the changes. -Barry

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailmanctl probelm

2003-03-21 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 14:12, Bob Franklin wrote: What I'm unsure about is what should be done with this list - should it be configured in a certain way or whatever? I guess it's just required so Mailman can have a valid sending address and can capture bounces, etc. in the usual way. Right,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Updating virtual-mailman Database

2003-03-21 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 10:36, Jeremy Butler wrote: I know that one is not supposed to manually edit virtual-mailman, but I've run into a problem where aliases were not deleted when I removed a list and then recreated it again with the same name. Consequently, I've got duplicate entires (see

Re: [Mailman-Users] exim -mailman faq - not working

2003-03-22 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 17:20, John Swartzentruber wrote: I'm not sure I can stretch my memory back to January, but I think the issue was that the genaliases script doesn't create a file with the aliases in them unless you are using Postfix (presumably with the MTA variable set to Postfix). I'm

Re: [Mailman-Users] Name or service not known

2003-03-22 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 17:04, Marilyn Davis wrote: I'm still pulling out my hair on this one, and a hairless woman is not a pretty thing. Oh, I don't know about that... http://go.sciflicks.com/artists/p/persis_khambatta_star_trek_the_motion_picture.jpg :) I figured out that the SMTPDirect

Re: [Mailman-Users] Message stuck in a loop is the main websitedown?

2003-03-22 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Tue, 2003-03-18 at 11:27, Chris Barnett wrote: Is there something else I can do or anywhere I can look for more clues? The other traffic is minor, but sending duplicates to this number of people is a big problem for me. In addition to your sendmail logs, you can look in log/smtp to see if

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable to purge corrupt address

2003-03-22 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 15:15, Chuq Von Rospach wrote: This gave me an idea, since I had a list with a binary email address (how? add_members of a directory instead of a file in the directory. oops). Here's a thought: since find_members takes a regular expression, you could do something like

Re: [Mailman-Users] Unable to purge corrupt address

2003-03-22 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 15:15, Chuq Von Rospach wrote: This gave me an idea, since I had a list with a binary email address (how? add_members of a directory instead of a file in the directory. oops). Oh, I should point out one other thing. I fixed Mailman cvs so that it would reject

Re: [Mailman-Users] Group id Catch-22 after list move

2003-04-06 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Sun, 2003-04-06 at 19:36, Todd Green wrote: I do not believe this is the case. Postfix will execute commands via the uid specified by postconf default_privs which is set to nobody if you don't change it. However the mailman script is setgid, so it will run with an effective group of

[Mailman-Users] Re: [Mailman-Developers] PROBLEM withAdministrative Requests

2003-06-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Sat, 2003-05-17 at 00:12, Kory Wheatley wrote: I've sent this email twice and no one has responded to this problem, I would really appreciate a response. I receive this below error when I go into the Administrative Interface and check Preserve messsages for the site administrator and

[Mailman-Users] Re: [Mailman-Developers] Global user tool

2003-06-09 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 16:36, Kory Wheatley wrote: Is there some kind of administrator login I can use to manage subscriptions ... we have so many listservs that adding and removing subscriptions by list is a big hassle - it would be easier if I could manage subscriptions by user name rather

[Mailman-Users] Re: [Mailman-Developers] Default link colors

2003-06-09 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mon, 2003-05-26 at 19:34, Tentra List Support wrote: I tryed change the default page and link colors by adding relevant fields in Default.py to mm_cfg.py. Changing all of the directives worked except for WEB_LINK_COLOR which did not result in a change. I found the offending error in

[Mailman-Users] [Fwd: [Mailman-cabal] Linux Expo UK 2003 - .OrgVillage Free Space for Mailman]

2003-07-22 Thread Barry Warsaw
This sounds like an interesting opportunity to get some more Mailman exposure. I won't be able to attend, but if any of our UK or Euro friends are planning to, would you be willing to volunteer a little time at the booth? If so, please let me and Brian know (I don't know what all is involved,

[Mailman-Users] Re: Fw: Re: Re:Remove from mailing list please (Ihave received this email in error READ)

2003-08-14 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Sun, 2003-08-10 at 18:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Barry, We seem to have a problem here with your mailing list called *peach.kiosk.ws*. A ton of us are getting these emails for removal from this list. Here is the URL:

[Mailman-Users] Re: [Mailman-Developers] (no subject)

2003-08-18 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Thu, 2003-08-14 at 10:45, Chuming Chen wrote: Before I send a digest out, I would like to edit it. Where in the Unix world is it located? How can I have permission to read/write it? It lives in lists/yourlist/digest.mbox I would like to be able to send out a digest when I want. From

[Mailman-Users] Mailman CPanel?

2003-09-22 Thread Barry Warsaw
I recently received a message about problems with Mailman and CPanel. I don't know anything about CPanel, or why Mailman and CPanel might not be working together, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't be interested in helping to make sure this is still a viable solution. I know a lot of people use

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman CPanel?

2003-09-22 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 18:49, Chuq Von Rospach wrote: Does anybody know anything about this? I've seen people asking about it on ListOwners. I've kept my head down because I didn't know what you'd said/done, but it sort of sounds like it's either the cPanel folks trying to blame Mailman

[Mailman-Users] Re: [Mailman-Developers] Mailman CPanel?

2003-09-22 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mon, 2003-09-22 at 19:02, Robert Anderson wrote: I don't know the answer but is mailman really an out of the box solution that is suitable for users without basic programming or linux sysadmin skills? Because there are a lot of CPanel users in this category. Installation and setup

Re: [Mailman-Users] RELEASED Mailman 2.1.3

2003-09-29 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 10:37, Ricardo Kleemann wrote: Hi, Is there a way for mailman's configure script to detect the current settings (such as --with-username, --with-mail-gid and so on)? Or is there a quick way for me to manually check what they should be? I want to be able to

Re: [Mailman-Users] RELEASED Mailman 2.1.3

2003-10-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 15:53, Tom Limoncelli wrote: Not to one-up you but... I record the steps I take to build something in a script, so that the next time I build something I can edit the script a little and run it. Lately I've added a boilerplate at the top that sets the PATH,

[Mailman-Users] Terri Oda's List Member Manual now available

2003-10-07 Thread Barry Warsaw
Terri Oda has written a nice manual for Mailman list members, and I've finally pushed it out to the web site (and mirrors). It's available both on-line and in PDF format. You can access the manual at: http://www.list.org/users.html http://mailman.sf.net/users.html

[Mailman-Users] Re: [Mailman-Developers] Zest as an Archiver

2003-10-15 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 05:56, Iain Bapty wrote: I'm a 3rd year Computer Science student at UMIST in Manchester, UK just starting my 3rd year project. My project is to create a new archiver component for Mailman based on Zest. I'm posting this message to both User and Developer lists as I

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Re: [Mailman-Users] unsubscribe_policy problem? (fixed, includes a patch)

2003-11-03 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 05:11, Pasi Sjoholm wrote: anyone didn't reply to me so I fixed this by myself, here is the patch: Applied, with some modification, to CVS. It will be part of 2.1.4. Thanks, -Barry -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL

[Mailman-Users] Calling all Mailman hosting sites

2003-11-21 Thread Barry Warsaw
I've had a lot of requests recently for information about Mailman hosting. As a general rule I don't like to recommend any particular hosting company. But if you do provide Mailman hosting facilities, please make sure you've added yourself to the PythonHosting wiki:

[Mailman-Users] Re: Spanish Mailman List Member Manual available! - reviewers needed!

2003-11-25 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Tue, 2003-11-25 at 17:08, pchamorro wrote: Dear Mailman Users, I finished the Spanish translation of 'GNU Mailman - List Member Manual' written by Terri Oda. If somebody knows about spanish-fluent mailman users, please forward this message to him/her. The translated manual is available

[Mailman-Users] Re:

2003-12-09 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 01:50, City wrote: version 2.1.2 have an option Only List administrator can post messages in mailing list? If yes where? http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=showfile=faq03.011.htp -Barry --

[Mailman-Users] SourceForge donations for the GNU Mailman project

2003-12-22 Thread Barry Warsaw
SourceForge recently instituted a donation system for projects and users, whereby you can donate some money to a PayPal account to show your appreciation for the free and open source projects you use. Donations to projects require opt-in from all the project's admins. Jeremy and I have both

[Mailman-Users] Re: cgi-GID error?

2004-01-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Fri, 2004-01-02 at 19:32, Tim Perdue wrote: Hello, I am trying to get a mailman install to work on SUSE Pro 9 with their weird apache 2.0.48 setup. Apache runs as wwwrun:www, or is supposed to. I properly compiled mailman with cgi-gid=8 (www) and the list WWW interface works 90%

[Mailman-Users] Re: Where's LO?

2004-01-12 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mon, 2004-01-12 at 17:53, Mark A. Mandel wrote: On your web page http://www.list.org/lists.html the link labeled {{Listowners}} is a mailing list with a non-technical focus, specifically for discussions from the perspective of listowners and moderators who do not have shell

Re: [Mailman-Users] From field displayed by MS Outlook

2004-01-22 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 15:39, Richard Barrett wrote: And I did not say it would. Nor is it necessary to so do. Outlook is not wrong and nor is Mailman. Its just that some users are confused by what they see and some mailing list admins are equally confused about why their users are

Re: [Mailman-Users] From field displayed by MS Outlook

2004-01-22 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Thu, 2004-01-22 at 16:48, Brad Knowles wrote: At 4:26 PM -0500 2004/01/22, Barry Warsaw wrote: Who's the agent responsible for the actual transmission of the message? Is Mailman acting as this agent? Arguably not. I disagree. I believe that this is exactly the role

[Mailman-Users] Re: [Mailman-i18n] Corrupted foreign fonts.

2004-02-03 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 08:40, Andrzej Kasperowicz wrote: Hi! In monthly reminders send by mailman in Polish, Polish fonts are corrupted. Code page in the header of the message is correct i.e. iso- 8859-2, but instead of Polish fonts there are only some numbers displayed as can be seen

Re: [Mailman-Users] Extract or dump of subscribers from mailman?

2004-02-09 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mon, 2004-02-09 at 10:51, Brad Knowles wrote: At 3:31 PM +0100 2004/02/09, Kai Schaetzl wrote: Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unfortunately, the link to the maillists on www.lists.org doesn't point to that archive. Wouldn't it be

[Mailman-Users] Several big changes slated for 2.1.5 (long)

2004-02-09 Thread Barry Warsaw
I have some rather big changes ready for MM2.1.5 that I wanted to describe and get feedback from you. While I have this stuff working and ready to be checked in, we will definitely need some beta testing before unleashing on the world. I hope you'll be able to help with that. I think these

[Mailman-Users] RELEASED: Mailman 2.0.14 patch-only release

2004-02-08 Thread Barry Warsaw
I have just released Mailman 2.0.14 as a patch-only release. This fixes a DoS bug to be described in CAN-2003-0991. See here for details: https://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=97760 Please note that since I am no longer actively maintaining Mailman 2.0, this release has had

[Mailman-Users] Mailman 3 development list

2004-02-26 Thread Barry Warsaw
I've created a list specifically for discussing Mailman 3 design and development. Feel free to subscribe at: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman3-dev I'd like to keep MM3 discussions off the main mailman-developers list as much as possible. The list will be open and will be run

[Mailman-Users] SF.net March 2004 POTM

2004-03-05 Thread Barry Warsaw
Hey folks, quick note. Mailman's the March 2004 SourceForge.net project of the month. http://sourceforge.net/potm/potm-2004-03.php -Barry -- Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users

[Mailman-Users] Re: [Mailman3-dev] Add ability for admin to change email addresses inside List database

2004-04-08 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Thu, 2004-03-18 at 11:23, Jon Carnes wrote: The problem I've been having is that there doesn't seem to be a way for the LIST ADMIN to change a subscriber's e-mail address without a confirmation (unless one goes through a subscribe/unsubscribe which risks changing user options and the user

[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.5 release candidate 2

2004-04-24 Thread Barry Warsaw
I've just uploaded Mailman 2.1.5 release candidate 2 (no, you never saw rc1 :). Since there are some fairly significant changes with this version, I felt it was necessary to put out a release candidate to hopefully prompt some additional testing. If you're able to test the new version, that

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailman 2.1.5 release candidate 2

2004-04-26 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Sat, 2004-04-24 at 23:47, Barry Warsaw wrote: I've just uploaded Mailman 2.1.5 release candidate 2 (no, you never saw rc1 :). There was something wrong with the tarball, so I just uploaded a new version (along with a new signature and an updated md5sum in the release notes). If you grabbed

[Mailman-Users] RELEASED Mailman 2.1.5

2004-05-15 Thread Barry Warsaw
Today I am releasing Mailman 2.1.5, a bug fix release that also contains new support for the Turkish language, and a few minor new features. Mailman 2.1.5 is a significant upgrade which should improve disk i/o performance, administrative overhead for discarding held spams, and the behavior of

Re: [Mailman-Users] How can I update 2.1.3 -- 2.1.5?

2004-06-05 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Tue, 2004-06-01 at 17:31, Brad Knowles wrote: At 6:45 PM +0100 2004/06/01, Ian A B Eiloart wrote: Ah, I see, so I upgrade by reinstalling. But that isn't clear from the documentation, because as easy as doesn't mean is achieved by. So there's me thinking, OK, so its easy, but how do

Re: [Mailman-Users] change language name

2004-06-06 Thread Barry Warsaw
) is written as Solvenian. please correct this. However, this page has the same error. I believe that this will need to be corrected by Barry Warsaw. Fixed in cvs. This will be corrected on the web pages the next time I push them out. Thanks, -Barry signature.asc Description

[Mailman-Users] Re: Mailing list problems?

2004-06-24 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Tue, 2004-06-22 at 10:20, Brad Knowles wrote: It's been a little while since I've gotten anything from the list, and it appears some messages have shown up in the archives that I haven't seen. I'm checking my subscription now, but I'm wondering if anyone else has seen any

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Re: [Mailman-Users] Tracebacks with 2.1.5 since upgrading to Python 2.4

2004-12-05 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Fri, 2004-12-03 at 21:41, Tokio Kikuchi wrote: time.strftime('%d-%b-%Y', day + (0,)*6)) should be something like: time.strftime('%d-%b-%Y', day + (0,0,0,0,1,0)) Looks like we should care 2.4 compatibilty first before jumping in it. Definitely. We should not release 2.1.6 until we're

[Mailman-Users] Updated web sites

2004-12-22 Thread Barry Warsaw
I've finally regained access to all three websites, list.org, mailman.sf.net, and the GNU mirror, so I've pushed out the latest updates. There are the usual additions to the list of users, but much more importantly there's Terri's new user documentation, and my recent consolidation of the

[Mailman-Users] Critical security update for Mailman 2.1.5 and earlier

2005-02-10 Thread Barry Warsaw
There is a critical security flaw in Mailman 2.1.5 and earlier Mailman 2.1 versions which can allow remote attackers to gain access to member passwords under certain conditions. The extent of the vulnerability depends on what version of Apache you are running, and (possibly) how you have

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Re: [Mailman-Users] security heads up - path traversal with 2.1.5

2005-02-14 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Wed, 2005-02-09 at 17:00, Tokio Kikuchi wrote: I've tested with my 1.3.29 installation and verified apache PATH_INFO does convert '//' to '/'. Barry also wanted to clarify which apache version/installation (combination with mailman) is valnerable. Return code of 200 doesn't mean

Re: [Mailman-Developers] Re: [Mailman-Users] security heads up - path traversal with 2.1.5

2005-02-14 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 10:23, Brad Knowles wrote: In response to this issue, FAQ 1.27 has been updated Wow Brad, I was just about to change this to read [EMAIL PROTECTED] but you beat me to it by seconds. :) , and the mailman-users and mailman-developers mailing lists have likewise

[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.6 release candidate 3

2005-04-29 Thread Barry Warsaw
Release candidate 3 for Mailman 2.1.6 is now available. This fixes a late-breaking problem with RFC 2231 encoded headers containing bogus or non-existent charsets. Specifically, this release includes an updated version of the email package (2.5.6). Please try this version out as much as

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] subject_prefix multiplication

2005-05-12 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Fri, 2005-05-13 at 00:23, Mark Sapiro wrote: All of a sudden, within the last hour or so, subject_prefix on both mailman-users@python.org and mailman-developers@python.org is being added to replies even though it's already present resulting in doubling and tripling (so far not more) of the

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] subject_prefix multiplication

2005-05-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Fri, 2005-05-13 at 05:05, Brad Knowles wrote: At 12:41 AM -0400 2005-05-13, Barry Warsaw wrote: Thanks for the quick heads up. I think I just fixed it. At least I /hope/ so, 'cause I'm going to bed. ;) So far as I know, we had been running a plain-jane 2.1.6rc3

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] subject_prefix multiplication

2005-05-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Fri, 2005-05-13 at 08:14, Tokio Kikuchi wrote: I believe I could finally fix the bug and commited in CVS. IMHO, python re.escape() should escape special characters only -- I can't find '%' in special character list in the manual. Cool. Sounds like a bug to me. I'll probably spin rc4 in

[Mailman-Users] Mailman 2.1.6 release candidate 4

2005-05-14 Thread Barry Warsaw
A few more last minute fixes and some language updates. Please let me know if you encounter any show stoppers. Barring any really critical bugs, this is going to be 2.1.6 final. -Barry https://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=327367 signature.asc Description: This is a

[Mailman-Users] RELEASED Mailman 2.1.6

2005-05-31 Thread Barry Warsaw
On behalf of the development team, I'm pleased to announce the release of GNU Mailman 2.1.6. This is a significant release, which includes three important security patches, updated Chinese (zh_TW and zh_CN) support, better compatibility with Python 2.4, a few new features, and many bug fixes.

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] Low level bug: (solved)

2005-07-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Thu, 2005-07-28 at 11:52, Mark Sapiro wrote: The real issue here seems to be that the import from mm_cfg done in the driver script is inadequately protected. The driver script print_traceback definition contains try: from Mailman.mm_cfg import VERSION except

[Mailman-Users] The Mailman FAQ wizard (temporarily unavailable)

2005-10-12 Thread Barry Warsaw
The Python.org administrators have moved the website to our spiffy new server, however the Mailman FAQ wizard hasn't yet been moved. It should be shortly. Please try not to make any changes to the FAQ wizard for the next day or so. Currently, until your DNS updates, you'll be hitting the wizard

Re: [Mailman-Users] The Mailman FAQ wizard (temporarily unavailable)

2005-10-12 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 13:16, Barry Warsaw wrote: The Python.org administrators have moved the website to our spiffy new server, however the Mailman FAQ wizard hasn't yet been moved. It should be shortly. Please try not to make any changes to the FAQ wizard for the next day or so

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] filename too long error - stopping list

2005-12-23 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Fri, 2005-12-23 at 09:22 +0900, Tokio Kikuchi wrote: May be we should set this default in Defaults.py.in in the next release of 2.1.7. Thoughts? It's probably a good idea, but also as Stephen says, it might be a good idea to shorten the filename (keeping the extension) even when this value

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] Problems with uuencoded attachments

2006-01-15 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jan 14, 2006, at 9:59 PM, Tokio Kikuchi wrote: Mark Sapiro wrote: File /usr/lib/python2.3/uu.py, line 139, in decode sys.stderr.write(Warning: %s\n % str(v)) File /usr/lib/mailman/Mailman/Logging/MultiLogger.py, line 45, in write _logexc(logger, msg) File

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] Problems with uuencoded attachments

2006-01-15 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 09:25 +0900, Tokio Kikuchi wrote: In usual mailman qrunner execs, stderr is logged into logs/errors. It is the additional tee_to_real_stderr in LogStdErr() setting which wants to print the error into real stderr. Isn't it safe to put the tee_to_real_stderr value 0

[Mailman-Users] New Mailman wiki, Subversion (and other stuff)

2006-04-15 Thread Barry Warsaw
For a while now, I've been trying to implement several project management improvements for Mailman, so that future development can be opened up to more people. As Tokio's and Mark's work has shown, there are very talented programmers out there that can contribute great stuff to Mailman if given a

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-i18n] New Mailman wiki, Subversion (and other stuff)

2006-04-15 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Sun, 2006-04-16 at 11:17 +0930, Clytie Siddall wrote: Barry, thanks for such an encouraging look into the near future. :) I'm trying to get re-energized! :) OK, I've already submitted an i18n howto to the SF tracker, which I don't think Tokoi has had time to implement. I would be happy

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-cabal] Cannot update Mailman FAQ

2006-04-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 16:04 +0100, Richard Barrett wrote: And your point is? Of course I be deluded and imagining the error response I got back but then again 17 days is a long time in the life of a file's permissions. Indeed. After I sent my response, I noticed that your original

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] Sender field

2006-04-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Thu, 2006-04-27 at 22:46 -0500, Brad Knowles wrote: If the previous value of the Sender: field is being lost, then that should be corrected. At the very least, the value should be saved in an Old-Sender: or Previous-Sender: or some other suitable renamed sender field. Probably

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-cabal] Cannot update Mailman FAQ

2006-04-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 12:37 -0500, Brad Knowles wrote: The current FAQ Wizard has the advantage of simplicity and tracking all previous changes (in case things need to be rolled back). Wikis, by their nature, are considerably more complex and at least some of them don't track

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] Sender field

2006-04-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
Now that I have a few minutes to breath ;) I'll try to summarize my thoughts on this, and then perhaps go back later and follow up to specific points later in the thread. I'm sympathetic to ripping out the Sender: field munging. It was always primarily a workaround for buggy MTAs. If the

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] Sender field

2006-04-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 13:05 -0500, Neal Groothuis wrote: As I noted in my previous response, I believe that the correct field (if Mailman were to add a Sender: header) to add would be Resent-Sender. Please see RFC 2822, section 3.6.6. Whatever else we decide, I don't agree, or at least,

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] Sender field

2006-04-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 14:08 -0400, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...Trouble similar to a current problem I am having with AOL: they are bouncing all email with the FROM: address of a specific AOL user, when mailman delivers the messages to -any- aol or cs.com address. Have you tried

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] Sender field

2006-05-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 19:12 -0500, Brad Knowles wrote: I think we need to gather a lot more information about the likely outcome from this change, and I think the best way to achieve this is through giving admins (either site admins or list admins) the ability to set an option and

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] Sender field

2006-05-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Sun, 2006-04-30 at 00:00 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Sender doesn't instruct *conformant* MTAs at all, does it? AFAIK the only thing that a RFC 2821-conforming MTA looks at is the Return-Path header, and it's supposed to remove that. So this is purely a matter of pragmatic

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] Sender field

2006-05-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mon, 2006-05-01 at 18:16 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: Neal Groothuis wrote: Mailman is not the originator of the message, so it should not be tampering with the From: or Sender: fields at all. This is arguably not true. Mailman may add a list header and/or list footer to the body of

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] Sender field

2006-05-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Mon, 2006-05-01 at 13:27 -0500, Neal Groothuis wrote: I'd like to work up an unofficial diff to Mailman 2.1 for people like Stephen who are willing to give it a try on a live site. I'm not sure this is even necessary. Ezmlm doesn't touch the Sender: header at all, Majordomo sets it

[Mailman-Users] RELEASED Mailman 2.1.9 release candidate 1

2006-09-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On behalf of the Mailman development team, I'm happy to announce the release of Mailman 2.1.9 release candidate 1. This is primarily a bug fix and security release, although it also contains two new languages: Arabic and Vietnamese. This

[Mailman-Users] RELEASED: Mailman 2.1.9

2006-09-13 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On behalf of the GNU Mailman development team, I'm please to announce GNU Mailman 2.1.9. This is primarily a security and bug fix release and it is highly recommended that all sites upgrade to this version. Mailman 2.1.9 also contains support

Re: [Mailman-Users] MM lists on Gmane

2006-09-17 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Okay, first of all let's all take a deep breath. This can be worked out. Let me state up front that my general preference is always to allow the widest possible access to the Mailman and Python lists, and in general to all open source content.

Re: [Mailman-Users] MM lists on Gmane

2006-09-18 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 18, 2006, at 12:26 PM, JC Dill wrote: If Barry wants to let the list be gatewayed to gmane and usenet over our objections, he is certainly entitled to do that. It will also mean that he will need new people to help manage the various

Re: [Mailman-Users] Output to file all lists and associated member addresses

2006-09-20 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 20, 2006, at 10:35 AM, Bill Landry wrote: Thanks Patrick, that certainly gives me a listing of all of the member e-mail address for every list, but does not associate them with the particular list they apply to. I was looking for an output

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail going to list archives but not to list!

2006-09-26 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 26, 2006, at 2:12 PM, Brad Knowles wrote: At 8:51 AM -0400 9/26/06, Elizabeth Schwartz wrote: Another question: is there any parallelism of processing files in the out queue or are they done sequentially? By default, it's

Re: [Mailman-Users] OS X Mailman Python

2006-09-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm including mailman-developers on this message, because I want to discuss the issue of which Python versions to support. On Sep 27, 2006, at 11:04 AM, Stubbs Jeff wrote: Got a question. I picked up another Mac, so I'm going to rebuild my list

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mail going to list archives but not to list!

2006-09-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 26, 2006, at 9:07 PM, Brad Knowles wrote: But you're still using a single directory as an on-disk queue, and that single directory has to be completely locked, operated on, and then unlocked every single time you want to create a new

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] OS X Mailman Python

2006-09-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 27, 2006, at 9:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mailman 2.1.x supported on Python 2.3, 2.4, and 2.5. Drop support for Python 2.1 and 2.2. We've done this accidentally in Mailman 2.1.9, so let's make it official. Would it be possible to

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] OS X Mailman Python

2006-09-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 27, 2006, at 8:29 PM, Tokio Kikuchi wrote: In summary my preferences would be: Mailman 2.1.x supported on Python 2.3, 2.4, and 2.5. Drop support for Python 2.1 and 2.2. We've done this accidentally in Mailman 2.1.9, so let's make it

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] OS X Mailman Python

2006-09-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 28, 2006, at 2:13 PM, Stubbs Jeff wrote: Barry - thanks for the advice I just wanted to report that Tiger (10.4.7 : ppc), Python 2.5 (from the OS X installer), and Mailman 2.1.9 works perfectly. Install went without a hitch.

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] OS X Mailman Python

2006-09-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 28, 2006, at 8:45 PM, Larry Stone wrote: This all made me curious. I'm just a user of Mailman on Mac OS X - no development of any sort by me - so I'm good with 2.1.9 and Python 2.3.5 on 10.4.7 - but this topic made me look at the Python

Re: [Mailman-Users] [Mailman-Developers] OS X Mailman Python

2006-09-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sep 28, 2006, at 11:03 PM, Larry Stone wrote: On 9/28/06 9:16 PM, Barry Warsaw at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, that leads to the question, is there any reason to install python 2.5 while running 2.1.9 or are we fine with 2.3.5 if we aren't

Re: [Mailman-Users] Google Code Search

2006-10-08 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 8, 2006, at 11:01 AM, Gadi Evron wrote: Hi guys. I've been playing a lot with Google's new code search, collecting a lot of search strings relating to security. I searched for TBD and then TBD security. The very first hit is from

Re: [Mailman-Users] Python API

2006-10-27 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 27, 2006, at 3:54 PM, Paul Gevers wrote: I am working on a customized user management system created in python/Zope. Currently I am using the bash script in mailman/bin to communicate with Mailman, but I like to do a little bit more (which

Re: [Mailman-Users] Digest Options

2006-10-29 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 28, 2006, at 2:30 PM, Dragon wrote: I'm in agreement with Mark here. I find this whole idea horrifying. HTML is for web pages, not e-mail. Friends don't let friends do HTML e-mail. I'm by no means a fan of HTML email either, but /if/ we

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approve subscription requests via mail

2006-11-17 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Nov 17, 2006, at 11:53 AM, Brad Knowles wrote: PPS: Perhaps you could remove the direct link to this list from http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/lists.html (in the left row) - because the list requires subscription. The list does require

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approve subscription requests via mail

2006-11-18 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Nov 18, 2006, at 7:48 AM, Georg Sauthoff wrote: At the page http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/docs.html the authors invite users to just mail to mailman-users@ ('Email Us' - left side, like every left side ) and only 'suggest' to subscribe

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approve subscription requests via mail

2006-11-19 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Nov 19, 2006, at 4:00 AM, Brad Knowles wrote: This might very well work. But speaking only for myself, I would not be interested in being on the mailman-help list. I don't blame you ;). If anybody else is interested in seeing a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Approve subscription requests via mail

2006-11-19 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Nov 19, 2006, at 12:41 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: If you haven't started rebuilding the archives yet, I suggest you don't do it. Not only will it invalidate all the links in the FAQ which can be changed with some effort, it will also invalidate

Re: [Mailman-Users] subscription only via email?

2006-11-23 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Nov 22, 2006, at 11:28 PM, John W. Baxter wrote: In your situation, it may make more sense to use a mailing list manager written to be driven from email, such as Majordomo. Mailman--as a reaction to the problems some people found with the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Load-balancing mailman between two servers

2006-11-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Nov 28, 2006, at 6:08 PM, Guy Waugh wrote: I'm still wondering whether I should be NFS-sharing the qfiles directory. I haven't delved into the Mailman source code to try to figure this out, but... You should be able to NFS share the qfiles

Re: [Mailman-Users] Load-balancing mailman between two servers

2006-11-28 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Nov 28, 2006, at 6:32 PM, Brad Knowles wrote: I believe that you are correct -- if the post is held on only one server, and you happen to log into the other server to approve the post, then the second machine would not see that post to approve

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