[Mailman-Users] Re: spamming

On 12/13/23 17:07, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 12/13/23 17:48, Jim Dory wrote: My bad.. rather than Bad Request error (oiy, my memory), the actual error when enabling the RECAPTCHA strings is this:     Bug in Mailman version   We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster

[Mailman-Users] Re: spamming

On 12/13/23 12:08, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 12/13/23 10:00, Jim Dory wrote: As for listinfo.html, I see 2 pertinent files. on under ../en/templates (this list is just english) and under ../lists/[name of our list]/ . The templates version includes a few lines of captcha which the lists version

[Mailman-Users] Re: spamming

On 12/13/23 01:04, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: Jim Dory writes: > I've started getting these spamming attacks again so thought I > would dive into trying this recaptcha. I got the keys for V2 > recaptcha from google and put the 2 lines at the bottom of the > mm_cfg.py with

[Mailman-Users] Re: spamming

On 10/24/23 06:04, David L. Dewey wrote: Quoting Jim Dory (ja...@dorydesign.com): On 10/23/23 17:38, rich...@karmannghia.org wrote: On Mon, 23 Oct 2023, dde...@cyberthugs.com wrote: .. Implementing the google captcha solution to Mailman a week or so ago stopped it dead. For now... Hi

[Mailman-Users] Re: spamming

On 10/23/23 17:38, rich...@karmannghia.org wrote: On Mon, 23 Oct 2023, dde...@cyberthugs.com wrote: .. Implementing the google captcha solution to Mailman a week or so ago stopped it dead. For now... Hi Jim, Interesting, and thanks for posting. Can you please describe, briefly, as

[Mailman-Users] spamming

I've got a new problem with my mailing list. I run a local announcements/trade list that should be of no interest to non-locals. I started seeing warnings from Yahoo about users marking messages as spam.. (I'm subscribed to Yahoo's Antispam Feedback. I never got other feedback loops from

[Mailman-Users] Re: Yahoo blocking their emails

On 3/9/23 16:54, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 3/9/23 11:24, annette carter wrote: Please help. Where do I go to stop Yahoo and all of it's associated ISPs from blacklisting my subscribers, please? See these FAQ articles: https://wiki.list.org/x/17891458 https://wiki.list.org/x/17891477

[Mailman-Users] Re: User receiving mail, but not subscribed

On 8/16/21 8:11 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: One thing you can do is enable VERP. Assuming this in Mailman 2.1 since this list is for Mailman 2.1, you enable VERP by putting VERP_DELIVERY_INTERVAL = 1 in mm_cfg.py. This will change the envelope sender (the bounces address) from

[Mailman-Users] Re: User receiving mail, but not subscribed

On 8/16/21 11:10 AM, Carl Zwanzig wrote: On 8/16/2021 10:30 AM, Jim Dory wrote: I've asked her to run it by the IT department of her corporation, but thought I would ask here in case there is something I need to do instead. I thought that the "on behalf of listname-requ...@domai

[Mailman-Users] Re: User receiving mail, but not subscribed

On 8/16/21 11:34 AM, Bruce Johnson via Mailman-Users wrote: When I’ve gotten these in the past it’s almost always because someone else’s email, or an old email address is getting forwarded to the recipient. I don’t think the 'on behalf of’ stuff is actually from an O365/Exchange system, but

[Mailman-Users] User receiving mail, but not subscribed

I suspect this stems from something inside this local corporation, but I'll ask the question: I have a person contacting me to remove her work email from our subscription of our local email list, but her email is not subscribed. Usually when this happens, I have them forward a list message to

[Mailman-Users] Re: unwanted auto removal of subscribers

On 3/18/21 12:33 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 3/18/21 12:35 PM, Jim Dory wrote: Anyway - after 3 weeks of no bounces, I just got a bunch of GCI email users automatically unsubscribed from the list, with this message: "... has been removed from Nome-announce. (disabled address)" My bo

[Mailman-Users] unwanted auto removal of subscribers

I have been having a difficult time with our local ISP GCI marking messages of our subscriber list as spam for the last couple years. I was finally able to get through to them and get the spam block removed a month ago. They have a contractor that does their email so I have to go through a tech

[Mailman-Users] Re: mail delivery failed on my email [SOLVED]

Ok, I started a ticket with the hosting service and they found a misconfigure in the mail routing. I'm not exactly clear on the issue but since the server name has changed a few times and we migrated it once or twice - plus my inexperience - something got borked. Here is what the tech guy said:

[Mailman-Users] Re: mail delivery failed on my email

On 3/2/21 7:46 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 3/2/21 5:10 PM, Jim Dory wrote:   I just tried to send a message and got this: "A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: pipe to |/usr/local/c

[Mailman-Users] mail delivery failed on my email

I manage a list through CPanel v. 94.0.2 and I also have server access (from our paid host). Mailman v.2.1.33-2.cp1186.  I just tried to send a message and got this: "A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following

Re: [Mailman-Users] msg marked as spam 554 5.7.1 [P4]

On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 7:21 PM Stephen J. Turnbull < turnbull.stephen...@u.tsukuba.ac.jp> wrote: > > I'd need to see that > message's full header to debug that fully, but it sounds like GCI is > generally not doing a great job here. > > > Ok - just for curiosity sake, here is full header. I've

Re: [Mailman-Users] msg marked as spam 554 5.7.1 [P4]

On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 12:56 AM Stephen J. Turnbull < turnbull.stephen...@u.tsukuba.ac.jp> wrote: > Jim Dory writes: > > > > Sometimes I do get this: host mx1.arandomserver.com [198.252.100.64] > > SMTP error from remote mail server after end of data: > >

[Mailman-Users] msg marked as spam 554 5.7.1 [P4]

So I'm just a volunteer who doesn't understand much about email systems.. just rudimentary - and I am managing an email list for community announcements and trade, by subscription only. We have about 1500 subscribers. I have one problem that when a particular user (the city) sends an

Re: [Mailman-Users] Delivery errors and spam grading

On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 6:19 PM Mark Sapiro wrote: > > Does your outgoing MTA add an X-Ham-Report: header? Perhaps it does so > in a non-compliant way. > > > > is disabling the digest option something people do regularly to > > prevent issues like this? and if so - if I were to disable it now,

Re: [Mailman-Users] Delivery errors and spam grading

On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 4:39 AM Stephen J. Turnbull < turnbull.stephen...@u.tsukuba.ac.jp> wrote: > > (You probably should > also disable the Digestable option in [Digest options] > I'm also receiving several bounces back for errors such as: "SMTP error from remote mail server after end of

[Mailman-Users] Fwd: Yahoo, AOL again

On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 1:48 PM Mark Sapiro wrote: > > > > The Yahoo page at > has some tips. You may need to adjust the retry strategy of your MTA. > > > > So looking at the EXIM config on the host VPS server, there is a Section:RETRYSTART

Re: [Mailman-Users] Yahoo, AOL again

Nevermind.. got it to take with some playing around. thanks and apologies. On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 2:43 PM Jim Dory wrote: > > > On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 1:48 PM Mark Sapiro wrote: > >> >> >> >> >The Yahoo page at <https://help.yahoo.com/kb/postmaste

Re: [Mailman-Users] Yahoo, AOL again

On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 1:48 PM Mark Sapiro wrote: > > > > >The Yahoo page at > >has some tips. You may need to adjust the retry strategy of your MTA. > > > > >Apple has recently started publishing p=quarantine for its > >{mac|me|icloud}.com

[Mailman-Users] Yahoo, AOL again

For the last couple months I have been getting bounces from yahoo and aol subscribers. Hundreds a day, depending on list traffic. I think some mail gets through to them (the yahoo subscribers) but a lot gets bounced, if not all. None of the the subscribers have complained anyway about not

Re: [Mailman-Users] Yahoo rejects

oops, I see in Andrews replay I didn't snip all the address shoot. On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 1:11 PM, Andrew White, PhD <awh...@pdbti.org> wrote: > We (pdbti.org) have been seeing an increase in rejects for yahoo users > this week as well... > > > At 12:57 PM 3/16

[Mailman-Users] Yahoo rejects

Mostly an FYI but also curious if anyone else sees this. I'm constantly having problems with yahoo it seems but this time, for the last couple days, I've been seeing this message: -- Forwarded message -- From: mailer-dae...@yahoo.com To: nome-announce-boun...@nomekennelclub.com

Re: [Mailman-Users] User's message discarded by SpamDetect

Found the problem in one of the filters. Problem solved, thanks! On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 11:29 AM, Jim Dory <ja...@dorydesign.com> wrote: > Thanks Mark, > > I changed the header filter rules to Hold to see if that helps in locating > the problem. The DMARC thing was liste

Re: [Mailman-Users] User's message discarded by SpamDetect

to try resending again. thx, Jim On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 11:08 AM, Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> wrote: > On 03/01/2018 11:41 AM, Jim Dory wrote: > > Our local campus from Univ. of Alaska Fairbanks has set up an (I believe) > > alias email account on the alaska.edu doma

[Mailman-Users] User's message discarded by SpamDetect

Our local campus from Univ. of Alaska Fairbanks has set up an (I believe) alias email account on the alaska.edu domain. Their system uses gmail.com' business account to handle email. When the user tries to send to our list, it gets blocked with no bounce. From the

Re: [Mailman-Users] messages getting auto discarded

Thanks for your help Mark.. I think your last sentence nailed it. /jim On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 11:18 PM, Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> wrote: > On 02/16/2018 11:55 PM, Jim Dory wrote: > > We are on Mailman 2.1.23. CPanel version. > > > > Here is a typical auto d

Re: [Mailman-Users] messages getting auto discarded

6, 2018 at 7:04 PM, Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> wrote: > On 02/16/2018 11:09 AM, Jim Dory wrote: > > I've gotten a ton of spam directed at our mailing list so I set up some > > auto discard filters. Unfortunately I don't know regular expressions so > may > > hav

Re: [Mailman-Users] messages getting auto discarded

Good question! Nothing against Germany, but the list is strictly local community stuff. If someone with that domain moved here, I would remove that block. But it was easy to block whole countries rather than individual spammers. On Feb 16, 2018 12:27, "Christian F Buser"

[Mailman-Users] messages getting auto discarded

I've gotten a ton of spam directed at our mailing list so I set up some auto discard filters. Unfortunately I don't know regular expressions so may have misconfigured - result is some seemingly valid messages getting discarded (could be different reason than my filters). A couple yesterday were

Re: [Mailman-Users] Yahoo problems again

ers@python.org > > Cc: > > Bcc: > > Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 16:18:18 -0800 > > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Yahoo problems again > > On 12/21/2017 03:14 PM, Jim Dory wrote: > > > I'm running a CPanel version of mailman. > > > I've been seeing a lot of th

[Mailman-Users] Yahoo problems again

I'm running a CPanel version of mailman. I've been seeing a lot of the following errors of mostly yahoo.com users but a few other providers as well. "-- Forwarded message -- From: Mail Delivery System To:

Re: [Mailman-Users] Removing archived spam

Just had to do it today. I chose method #1 - just deleted an URL that was probably used for phishing from two messages. https://wiki.list.org/DOC/How%20do%20I%20edit%20the%20archives%20of%20a%20Mailman%20list%3F On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 10:29 PM, Hal via Mailman-Users < mailman-users@python.org>

Re: [Mailman-Users] spam discard expressions

< turnbull.stephen...@u.tsukuba.ac.jp> wrote: > Sorry, I've been ignoring Mailman for a few days, and I guess you've > got a solution that works already. This is a pair of alternatives > that each have some advantages and disadvantages compared to your > regexp-based solution. FWIW,

Re: [Mailman-Users] spam discard expressions

Maybe this is how to do it: My spam filter is not working. I have this syntax: ^Subject: .*Example And mail with this subject is still getting through: Subject: Desperate for a Example What would be correct way to catch messages with "Example"? thanks, jim On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 6:

Re: [Mailman-Users] spam discard expressions

I'm trying to ask a question about spam filters, using an example of spam I'm getting, but I'm getting this error: The response was: 554 permanent error Contact your postmaster/admin for assistance. Please provide the following information in your problem report: time (Sep 22 22:16:42) and

Re: [Mailman-Users] spam discard expressions

Great, thanks! This should help a lot, regards, Jim On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Robert Heller <hel...@deepsoft.com> wrote: > At Wed, 20 Sep 2017 11:59:37 -0800 Jim Dory <ja...@dorydesign.com> wrote: > > > > > Apparently our host provider performs spam

[Mailman-Users] spam discard expressions

Apparently our host provider performs spam tests only on outgoing, rather than incoming - since my spamassassin blacklists don't have any effect. So I've discovered the filters offered in Mailman after being completely buried by spammers trying to post to our subscriber only list. I've started

Re: [Mailman-Users] "Bounce action notification" emails for subscribes/unsubscribes

I have root access to my server and I'm not getting the subscribe/unsubscribe notices for our mailing list. If it would help I can look something up. However, this isn't my day job so I would need cookbook style instructions. I have ssh ability as well as their WHM interface. That said, not sure

Re: [Mailman-Users] "Bounce action notification" emails for subscribes/unsubscribes

For what it is worth, I've stopped getting subscribe/unsubscribe notices too on my one list hosted on CPanel/virtual server. Perhaps months ago. I figured it was over my head to figure out, so reading this thread to see if anything easy presents as a solution. /jim On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 12:29

Re: [Mailman-Users] bounces SMTP error 554

day and so far not often enough increment to suspend the guys that these are bounced from. thanks for your help! /jim On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 7:47 PM, Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> wrote: > On 04/22/2017 07:30 PM, Jim Dory wrote: > > I have a couple members of our list whose remote

[Mailman-Users] bounces SMTP error 554

I have a couple members of our list whose remote mail servers reject some of our messages because of what appears to be text formatting in the messages. Usually MS Office formatting. I get a bounce back ala: "host mtaonline.net.mx1.greymail.rcimx.net [208.80.206.74] SMTP error from remote

Re: [Mailman-Users] removing individual email headers from digest

cool - things I didn't know about. Thanks Steve./jim On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 9:05 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull < turnbull.stephen...@u.tsukuba.ac.jp> wrote: > Jim Dory writes: > > Warnings: > > > Message-ID: line since that means nothing to the end user, and the &g

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman sending password reminders to members no longer subscribed

wrote: > On 11/2/2016 9:08 AM, Jim Dory wrote: > >> Mark was helpful in his suggestions: I'll have to get one of the folks to >> forward me the password reminder so I can look at the headers. We did >> upgrade our package with our host company so maybe the old is stil

Re: [Mailman-Users] mailman sending password reminders to members no longer subscribed

, Jim On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 6:26 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull < turnbull.stephen...@u.tsukuba.ac.jp> wrote: > Jim Dory writes: > > > I've gotten a couple complaints today from ex-members on our > subscription > > only mailman list > > What do you mean by "sub

[Mailman-Users] mailman sending password reminders to members no longer subscribed

I've gotten a couple complaints today from ex-members on our subscription only mailman list after they received password reminders. They are not subscribed, so I can't honor their request to be removed from the mailing list. Any tips of ferreting out these members from some record that needs

[Mailman-Users] Outlook blocking all email - "email harvesting"

I've got a plan with Hawkhost on a VPS server for our community, subscriber only, trade and announcements email list. Outlook has completely blocked us so I've recently gotten messages from mailman bounces that about 400 of our subscribers (all the hotmail, live, outlook, etc. users) have been

[Mailman-Users] getting lots of approval requests for spammers

I'm getting a ton of spam posting attempts to our subscriber only email list - in the order of about 100 to 150 per day and growing. As I need to keep a look out for actual member requests (sometimes a member wants to unsubscribe or is having some problem - a non member wants to subscribe) I have

Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman is not Listserv - was: Our list serv host is threatening to shut us down for spam abuse

)) I correct this EVERYTIME I meet this abuse. earned me a > reputation of a pedant, but the abuse has fallen off to nil. > > A. > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> wrote: > >> On 06/17/2016 10:40 AM, Jim Dory wrote: >> > I was

Re: [Mailman-Users] Our list serv host is threatening to shut us down for spam abuse

Thank you Rich, I do not subscribe anyone without making them first go through the subscribe process. The problem we're having lately is the ISP's are not passing on the confirmation email, so in a couple cases lately, after confirming the user tried the process (by their word is all I got) I do

Re: [Mailman-Users] Our list serv host is threatening to shut us down for spam abuse

t; On 06/16/2016 04:04 PM, Jim Dory wrote: > > So, anyone recommend more list-serv friendly hosts? > > > If you're looking for listserv(r), you're in the wrong place. See > <https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Mailman%20is%20not%20Listserv>. > > To address your actual issue, the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Our list serv host is threatening to shut us down for spam, abuse

On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 9:06 AM, John <mailman-ow...@rx7-world.net> wrote: > On 6/17/16 9:21 AM, Jim Dory wrote: > > We have mounting complaints from AOL, > >> Yahoo and Hotmail > > I think that says it all... I have regular issues with the free email > serv

Re: [Mailman-Users] Our list serv host is threatening to shut us down for spam abuse

So, anyone recommend more list-serv friendly hosts? /jim On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Jim Dory <ja...@dorydesign.com> wrote: > We have a community list-serv for local trade and community announcements > with a subscriber base of nearly 2200 people. Our police and city use it

[Mailman-Users] Our list serv host is threatening to shut us down for spam abuse

We have a community list-serv for local trade and community announcements with a subscriber base of nearly 2200 people. Our police and city use it for public service announcements, people use it for selling/trading virtually anything (seal oil, outboards, guns, blue berries, you name it) and is by

Re: [Mailman-Users] confirm email marked as spam - reduce unique identifier length?

cs.org> wrote: > On May 15, 2016 9:47:50 PM PDT, Jim Dory <ja...@dorydesign.com> wrote: > > > >I believe that the subject of the confirmation email "confirm > > >40c7fa45251ce14ecd7c26c712648332fa3b326b" is triggering the spam > > >experts fil

[Mailman-Users] confirm email marked as spam - reduce unique identifier length?

Hello, I manage a community list-serv and our host - Hawkhost.com , has had their servers marking our subscription confirmation emails as spam so the end user never sees them. They are held at the Hawkhost servers. In a trouble ticket to them, they have postulated the following possible solution:

[Mailman-Users] trouble with setup: Cron, receiving mail outside lan

I'm a newb with this and am a bit overwhelmed with the installation and docs. Been searching the archives but hoping for quick help, as I suspect I made a dumb error. I'm installing on Suse 7.3, I have python 2.1.1 and latest stable mailman. Using Sendmail. I have it working more or less on

Re: [Mailman-Users] trouble with setup: Cron, receiving mail outside lan

PS: I forgot to mention I am connecting behind a linksys router (I added port 25 in port forward) and connect via cable modem. And I believe the isp (gci.net) allows port 25. Jim Dory wrote: I'm a newb with this and am a bit overwhelmed with the installation and docs. Been searching

Re: [Mailman-Users] trouble with setup: Cron, receiving mail outside lan

Dan Phillips wrote: Have you run bin/check_perms -f ? the obvious cause of the error is a permission issue, but check_perms doesn't always find everything. FWIW, my locks directory is 775 and the lock files themselves are 664. Before even messing with that, however, if you have no need for the