[Mailman-Users] {Spam?} in subject lines.

2021-12-07 Thread Adam Morris
Hi all, I realised I asked about this recently. on lists I run I don't have this appearing in subject lines where messages are sent from g mail and other domains. For a list I don't run messages sent from g mail and other providers have this in the subject line. Wondering what settings need cha

[Mailman-Users] [Spam] Setting a moderator password

2020-06-20 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Bernie Cosell writes: > I'm trying to set a moderator password for my list and I seem to be > doing something wrong: I went into "Passwords" entered the > moderator password both times and 'submitted' it and I get > "Authorization failed" when I tried to use it. What did I forget > to do? D

Re: [Mailman-Users] [SPAM?] Mapping -owners alias to a separate list

2019-04-19 Thread Dennis Carr
On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 20:00:23 -0400 Richard Damon wrote: > That just means that you need to setup the -admins list to accept > mail from non-subscribers, which is a perfectly valid configuration. And pretty easy - the list will accept mail from nonsubs, it just sticks any such messages in the mod

Re: [Mailman-Users] [SPAM?] Mapping -owners alias to a separate list

2019-04-18 Thread Richard Damon
> On Apr 18, 2019, at 6:41 PM, Dennis Carr > wrote: > > Hey, guys. > ... > So to this end, my thought is to route that mail over to a separate > -admins list instead of 'mailman list admins'. The expected side > effect is that this will wind up in the -admins list "not-subscribed" > trap. I

[Mailman-Users] Spam / Email Spoofing Problem (SPF check possible?)

2019-04-06 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Valentin Schwarze via Mailman-Users writes: > I am the administrator of some mailman lists of the student > self-administration of our university. We happend to have some spam > issues on our mailman lists. These spammers were able to send > emails on our lists through mail spoofing (only faki

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam / Email Spoofing Problem (SPF check possible?)

2019-04-06 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users writes: > Note: SPF by itself won't do anything to protect against From: header > spoofing. Sure, but if configured correctly, it gives you exactly the information you need. The problem with SPF is that a lot of header spoofing is legitimate (at least from the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam / Email Spoofing Problem (SPF check possible?)

2019-04-05 Thread Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users
On 4/5/19 11:59 AM, Valentin Schwarze via Mailman-Users wrote: Are there any settings that we as administrators of the list could change to end that behavior? For example, is it possible in any way, that Mailman only accepts emails that passed a SPF check? Or any other option to prevent email w

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam / Email Spoofing Problem (SPF check possible?)

2019-04-05 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 4/5/2019 10:59 AM, Valentin Schwarze via Mailman-Users wrote: We happend to have some spam issues on our mailman lists. These spammers were able to send emails on our lists through mail spoofing (only faking the From: field in the header is sufficient to get accepted). Do you have any mail

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam / Email Spoofing Problem (SPF check possible?)

2019-04-05 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 4/5/19 10:59 AM, Valentin Schwarze via Mailman-Users wrote: > > I am the administrator of some mailman lists of the student > self-administration of our university. We happend to have some spam issues on > our mailman lists. These spammers were able to send emails on our lists > through mail

[Mailman-Users] Spam / Email Spoofing Problem (SPF check possible?)

2019-04-05 Thread Valentin Schwarze via Mailman-Users
Hello, I am the administrator of some mailman lists of the student self-administration of our university. We happend to have some spam issues on our mailman lists. These spammers were able to send emails on our lists through mail spoofing (only faking the From: field in the header is sufficient

[Mailman-Users] {Spam?} Re: OT - Smart .forward replacement?

2018-11-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/25/18 12:28 PM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote: > On 11/25/18 1:03 PM, Lindsay Haisley (linode) wrote: >> mail redirected through a .forward  will always fail SPF validation. > > That is not always accurate.  It is relatively easy to configure an MTA > to support Sender Rewriting Schem

Re: [Mailman-Users] spam filter setting to hold makes sender filters useless

2018-07-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 7/6/18 1:44 AM, Christoph Groth wrote: > > The only solution that I see is to manually create spam filter rules for > the most notorious names on the discard_these_nonmembers list. Is there > a better way to keep graded response to spam and at the same time use > discard_these_nonmembers? Ma

[Mailman-Users] spam filter setting to hold makes sender filters useless

2018-07-06 Thread Christoph Groth
Hello, In the mailing list that I administrate I've set a spam filter rule that rejects all mail that matches the header X-Spam-Level: \*{5,} Any messages that match X-Spam-Level: \*{2,} are set on hold. We do this in order to avoid rejecting legitimate mail. However this causes prob

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam Subscriptions

2018-06-04 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark Dale writes: > D'oh. My apologies. The error was not from the trailing '$' but > from not having the quotes in place originally. All is now well > (with the above). No big deal; on the contrary, we really appreciate your report confirming that the regex works as expected for you, after

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam Subscriptions

2018-06-03 Thread Mark Dale
> And what is the error in Mailman's error log. GLOBAL_BAN_LIST = ['^[0-9a-z.]{6,}\+[0-9a-z]{4,}@gmail\.com$'] D'oh. My apologies. The error was not from the trailing '$' but from not having the quotes in place originally. All is now well (with the above). Thanks, Mark 2018/06/04 10:33:14 [e

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam Subscriptions

2018-06-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 06/03/2018 05:58 PM, Mark Dale wrote: > > I can't see why either, but with the '$' left in place, the > Mailman Web UI displayed the error "Sorry, we hit a bug..." And what is the error in Mailman's error log. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Cali

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam Subscriptions

2018-06-03 Thread Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users
On 06/03/2018 04:11 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: Ban list regexps are case insensitive. Thank you for the clarification Mark. The fact that the ones I saw never had periods following the plus sign. ACK -- Grant. . . . unix || die -- Mailman-U

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam Subscriptions

2018-06-03 Thread Mark Dale
> >> ^[0-9a-z.]{8,}\+[0-9a-z]{4,}@gmail\.com$ > > > > I'm getting errors with the above however it seems to do the job > > if I enclose it in quotes and remove the trailing $ - like so: > > > > GLOBAL_BAN_LIST = ['^[0-9a-z.]{6,}\+[0-9a-z]{4,}@gmail\.com'] - > What you have done is correct

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam Subscriptions

2018-06-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 06/03/2018 04:28 PM, Mark Dale wrote: > >> I use this regexp in the GLOBAL_BAN_LIST >> >> ^[0-9a-z.]{8,}\+[0-9a-z]{4,}@gmail\.com$ > > I'm getting errors with the above however it seems to do the job > if I enclose it in quotes and remove the trailing $ - like so: > > GLOBAL_BAN_LIST = ['^[0

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam Subscriptions

2018-06-03 Thread Mark Dale
> I use this regexp in the GLOBAL_BAN_LIST > > ^[0-9a-z.]{8,}\+[0-9a-z]{4,}@gmail\.com$ I'm getting errors with the above however it seems to do the job if I enclose it in quotes and remove the trailing $ - like so: GLOBAL_BAN_LIST = ['^[0-9a-z.]{6,}\+[0-9a-z]{4,}@gmail\.com'] Am I missing s

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam Subscriptions

2018-06-03 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 06/03/2018 09:53 AM, Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users wrote: > On 06/02/2018 09:29 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> I use this regexp in the GLOBAL_BAN_LIST >> >> ^[0-9a-z.]{8,}\+[0-9a-z]{4,}@gmail\.com$ > > Are you not looking for capital letters? Ban list regexps are case insensitive. > I can see

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam Subscriptions

2018-06-03 Thread Grant Taylor via Mailman-Users
On 06/02/2018 09:29 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: I use this regexp in the GLOBAL_BAN_LIST ^[0-9a-z.]{8,}\+[0-9a-z]{4,}@gmail\.com$ Are you not looking for capital letters? I can see how the period in the first class would work, but I don't see that in the second class. What am I missing? -- G

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam Subscriptions

2018-06-02 Thread Jim Popovitch via Mailman-Users
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Sat, 2018-06-02 at 20:50 -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Are they just script kiddies trying to be noticed or are they > actually trying to accomplish something. I don't think they know what potential they have, but they know there has to be somethin

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam Subscriptions

2018-06-02 Thread David Andrews
At 10:29 PM 6/2/2018, Mark Sapiro wrote: On 06/02/2018 06:55 PM, David Andrews wrote: > > Does anyone have any solution for dealing with spam subscriptions from > gmail > addresses? > The requests are coming from random addresses that contain a few words, a > plus sign, then another random string

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam Subscriptions

2018-06-02 Thread Mark Sapiro
I have a different question. For a few weeks now the Mailman 2.1 lists @python.org have seen a massive number of web subscribes from addresses @yahoo.com and @aol.com addresses. The aol.com ones seem to have abated but yahoo.com continues. They mostly have local parts that look like first and last

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam Subscriptions

2018-06-02 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 06/02/2018 06:55 PM, David Andrews wrote: > > Does anyone have any solution for dealing with spam subscriptions from > gmail > addresses? > The requests are coming from random addresses that contain a few words, a > plus sign, then another random string of characters. I use this regexp in the

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam Subscriptions

2018-06-02 Thread David Andrews
A couple months ago I asked a question and got a response from Mark Sapiro, see below. We are having trouble implementing anything. We are trying recaptcha, but it isn't popular with our users, thousands of whom are blind. Here is what my Linux guy asks: Does anyone have any solution for deal

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam Subscriptions

2018-02-23 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 02/23/2018 07:07 AM, David Andrews wrote: > > I have just two lists that receive a bunch of spam subscribes each day > -- hundreds of them, in fact. For some reason -- which is good, they are > held, so don't go through, not quite sure why.  Two questions -- first > is there a file I can erase

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam Subscriptions

2018-02-23 Thread Brian Carpenter
> I have a mailman installation with over 300 lists. It is cPanel, but > I am the administrator so have access to command line etc. > > I have just two lists that receive a bunch of spam subscribes each > day -- hundreds of them, in fact. For some reason -- which is good, > they are held, so don't

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam Subscriptions

2018-02-23 Thread Phil Stracchino via Mailman-Users
On 02/23/18 10:07, David Andrews wrote: > I have just two lists that receive a bunch of spam subscribes each > day -- hundreds of them, in fact. For some reason -- which is good, > they are held, so don't go through, not quite sure why. Two > questions -- first is there a file I can erase for e

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam Subscriptions

2018-02-23 Thread Phil Stracchino
On 02/23/18 10:07, David Andrews wrote: > Secondly, there is some commonality in the subscribe addresses, are > there strings I can use to discard the subscribes so I never have to see them. > > Below are examples, there is a common word, or a common word, a > period ., and another common word,

[Mailman-Users] Spam Subscriptions

2018-02-23 Thread David Andrews
I have a mailman installation with over 300 lists. It is cPanel, but I am the administrator so have access to command line etc. I have just two lists that receive a bunch of spam subscribes each day -- hundreds of them, in fact. For some reason -- which is good, they are held, so don't go thro

Re: [Mailman-Users] spam discard expressions

2017-09-29 Thread Phil Stracchino
On 09/29/17 03:13, Jim Dory wrote: > The > spammers attacking us must not be very smart, though they are persistent. The truth, I think, is that *most* spammers aren't very smart. The smart ones have figured out that the real money isn't in spamming, it's in selling spamming tools and spam hostin

Re: [Mailman-Users] spam discard expressions

2017-09-29 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 09/29/2017 12:13 AM, Jim Dory wrote: > > I opened a trouble ticket to see if the host support had a solution to all > the spam. They suggested setting the spam reject score in SpamAssassin for > our VPS server at 3.5. When I had it set earlier at 5, it started marking > member's posts as spam

[Mailman-Users] spam discard expressions

2017-09-29 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Sorry, I've been ignoring Mailman for a few days, and I guess you've got a solution that works already. This is a pair of alternatives that each have some advantages and disadvantages compared to your regexp-based solution. FWIW, YMMV Jim Dory writes: > Apparently our host provider performs sp

Re: [Mailman-Users] spam discard expressions

2017-09-29 Thread Jim Dory
Thanks for the reply Stephen, I opened a trouble ticket to see if the host support had a solution to all the spam. They suggested setting the spam reject score in SpamAssassin for our VPS server at 3.5. When I had it set earlier at 5, it started marking member's posts as spam and rejected them. D

Re: [Mailman-Users] spam discard expressions

2017-09-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 09/22/2017 07:22 PM, Jim Dory wrote: > Maybe this is how to do it: > > My spam filter is not working. I have this syntax: ^Subject: .*Example And where are you putting this? If you have that in bounce_matching_headers, you don't want the ^. The syntax there is the header followed by a regexp

Re: [Mailman-Users] spam discard expressions

2017-09-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 09/22/2017 07:19 PM, Jim Dory wrote: > I'm trying to ask a question about spam filters, using an example of spam > I'm getting, but I'm getting this error: > > The response was: > > 554 permanent error Contact your postmaster/admin for assistance. Please > provide the following information in

Re: [Mailman-Users] spam discard expressions

2017-09-22 Thread Jim Dory
Maybe this is how to do it: My spam filter is not working. I have this syntax: ^Subject: .*Example And mail with this subject is still getting through: Subject: Desperate for a Example What would be correct way to catch messages with "Example"? thanks, jim On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 6:19 PM, Jim

Re: [Mailman-Users] spam discard expressions

2017-09-22 Thread Jim Dory
I'm trying to ask a question about spam filters, using an example of spam I'm getting, but I'm getting this error: The response was: 554 permanent error Contact your postmaster/admin for assistance. Please provide the following information in your problem report: time (Sep 22 22:16:42) and client

Re: [Mailman-Users] spam discard expressions

2017-09-20 Thread Jim Dory
Great, thanks! This should help a lot, regards, Jim On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Robert Heller wrote: > At Wed, 20 Sep 2017 11:59:37 -0800 Jim Dory wrote: > > > > > Apparently our host provider performs spam tests only on outgoing, rather > > than incoming - since my spamassassin blacklis

Re: [Mailman-Users] spam discard expressions

2017-09-20 Thread Phil Stracchino
On 09/20/17 15:59, Jim Dory wrote: > Apparently our host provider performs spam tests only on outgoing, rather > than incoming - since my spamassassin blacklists don't have any effect. > > So I've discovered the filters offered in Mailman after being completely > buried by spammers trying to post

[Mailman-Users] spam discard expressions

2017-09-20 Thread Jim Dory
Apparently our host provider performs spam tests only on outgoing, rather than incoming - since my spamassassin blacklists don't have any effect. So I've discovered the filters offered in Mailman after being completely buried by spammers trying to post to our subscriber only list. I've started pu

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam filtering hyperlinks in body of message

2017-04-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
On April 14, 2017 9:56:22 AM PDT, Dang Tran wrote: > >a) Is it a good idea to block/filter out of messages that contain >hyperlinks? If you mean hyperlinks in general, I think it's a really bad idea. If you mean specific hyperlinks, e.g., with known phishing addresses, there are various

[Mailman-Users] Spam filtering hyperlinks in body of message

2017-04-15 Thread Dang Tran
Hi all – it appears some our lists are getting spam more frequently with messages that contain hyperlinks from different members (possibly from compromised emails). Two questions please: a) Is it a good idea to block/filter out of messages that contain hyperlinks? b) If so, how can

Re: [Mailman-Users] SPAM alert on internal mailing list

2017-04-11 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 04/11/2017 08:31 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > postmas...@python.org can't help you with this. We have no knowledge of > or control over your list. > > I can tell you however that what is happening is your list is probably > applying DMARC mitigations to list mail causing both the From: and To: > ad

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam to "-request" address generating backscatter spam

2016-12-23 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Mark Sapiro writes: > I can see that if your attackers get smarter, the real name check could > be useful, but I'm not ready to add that as a feature. That could change > if they successfully attack me, but that hasn't happened yet. Based on past experience, by "me" Mark means "you, too". He'

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam to "-request" address generating backscatter spam

2016-12-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/22/2016 04:05 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > Just to be clear, the bots are doing a GET of the listinfo page, > extracting the token, and then (mis)forming the GET URL like this: > > 89.32.127.178 - - [22/Dec/2016:23:53:29 +] "GET > /mailman/listinfo/users HTTP/1.1" 200 2866 "-" "Mozilla/

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam to "-request" address generating backscatter spam

2016-12-22 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 6:55 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 12/22/2016 03:38 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: >> >> I'm seeing GET attempts like this: >> >> 77.247.181.165 - - [22/Dec/2016:23:30:10 +] "GET >> /subscribe/users?sub_form_token=1527449307%3A0ca6e66379d0e6e9c45b66d93d5864da4621&email=jcon

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam to "-request" address generating backscatter spam

2016-12-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/22/2016 03:38 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > I'm seeing GET attempts like this: > > 77.247.181.165 - - [22/Dec/2016:23:30:10 +] "GET > /subscribe/users?sub_form_token=1527449307%3A0ca6e66379d0e6e9c45b66d93d5864da4621&email=jconno2215%40gmail.com&fullname=585c61c234d98&pw=&pw-conf=&dig

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam to "-request" address generating backscatter spam

2016-12-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/22/2016 01:53 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > I know the GLOBAL_BAN_LIST is for email addrs, but what would it take > to implement the same (or some field validation logic) for the > "fullname" field of the subscription page. I'm still seeing a ton of > subscribe spam attempts, and the fullna

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam to "-request" address generating backscatter spam

2016-12-22 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 12/22/2016 03:01 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: >> >> I think i have a better solution, (but I'm not so sure how to do this >> in Apache). In Nginx you can use "limit_except PUT { deny all; }" >> to deny the spambot GET attempts. > > in apache 2

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam to "-request" address generating backscatter spam

2016-12-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/22/2016 03:01 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > I think i have a better solution, (but I'm not so sure how to do this > in Apache). In Nginx you can use "limit_except PUT { deny all; }" > to deny the spambot GET attempts. in apache 2.4 you would do Require all denied Requi

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam to "-request" address generating backscatter spam

2016-12-22 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 4:53 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: >> >> Steve has answered most of this. I just want to add a couple of things. >> With respect to web subscribes, several sites including python.org have >> seen mail bomb attacks via the w

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam to "-request" address generating backscatter spam

2016-12-22 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > > Steve has answered most of this. I just want to add a couple of things. > With respect to web subscribes, several sites including python.org have > seen mail bomb attacks via the web subscribe interface. > > These are subscribes via the web

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam to "-request" address generating backscatter spam

2016-12-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/12/2016 03:07 PM, Edward Hasbrouck wrote: > > How can I stop this? I am willing to give up "subscribe to this list by > e-mail", and require all subscriptions to be via the Web. Steve has answered most of this. I just want to add a couple of things. With respect to web subscribes, severa

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam to "-request" address generating backscatter spam

2016-12-13 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 12/13/2016 03:54 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Edward Hasbrouck writes: > > > How can I stop this? I am willing to give up "subscribe to this list by > > e-mail", and require all subscriptions to be via the Web. > > Set Privacy Options | subscribe_policy to "Require approval". That won

[Mailman-Users] Spam to "-request" address generating backscatter spam

2016-12-13 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Edward Hasbrouck writes: > (2) Spam with forged "From:" headers is sent to > "listname-requ...@domain.com". > How can I stop this? I am willing to give up "subscribe to this list by > e-mail", and require all subscriptions to be via the Web. Set Privacy Options | subscribe_policy to "Requi

[Mailman-Users] Spam to "-request" address generating backscatter spam

2016-12-12 Thread Edward Hasbrouck
My mail server has been blacklisted by several major e-mail providers because of backscatter spam generated by my Mailman installation: (1) Spammers harvest the "listname-requ...@domain.com" address from a public Web page (presumably the Mailman admin page). (2) Spam with forged "From:" header

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam through my mailman?

2016-03-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 03/25/2016 09:17 AM, Michael Shulman wrote: > > The SPF and DKIM passes make it seem like this spam is actually being > sent from my server, not just from somewhere else with a spoofed > sender. Is there some way that my mailman may be misconfigured that > could be allowing the spammer to spa

[Mailman-Users] Spam through my mailman?

2016-03-25 Thread Michael Shulman
Hi, I am receiving spam to my list-owner address that appears to be sent from the same list-owner address. Here are some of the headers, anonymized a bit (google is there because my email is forwarded to my gmail address). Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mailman-boun...@my.server.com d

Re: [Mailman-Users] spam coming through a moderated list after a shunt

2015-11-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mark Sapiro wrote: > 1) The skipping of the handler throwing the exception upon unshunting > seems to be a bug. This bug has been reported at and a fix committed for the next release. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Fran

Re: [Mailman-Users] spam coming through a moderated list after a shunt

2015-11-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/22/15 11:43 AM, Fil wrote: > > Secondary question: how comes there can be a memory exception on trying > to load spip-ann/extend.py (which is non-existent). This is a bit of a puzzle. Whenever a MailList object is instantiated (Mailman.MailList.MailList.__init__) there is an attempt to exe

Re: [Mailman-Users] spam coming through a moderated list after a shunt

2015-11-22 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 11/22/15 10:22 AM, Fil wrote: > (sorry for the initial message with wrong subject line) Copying my reply in the new subject thread ... On 11/22/15 9:49 AM, Fil wrote: > Hello, > > a spam went through a moderated list today, and the story is weird. Here's > what I understand/ (mailman version

[Mailman-Users] spam coming through a moderated list after a shunt

2015-11-22 Thread Fil
Hello, a spam went through a moderated list today, and the story is weird. Here's what I understand/ (mailman version 2.1.20) First, the message was received and rejected by the list moderators logs/vette.log:Nov 22 14:56:45 2015 (10257) Message rejected, msgid: < 20151122135632.C128E412040 at

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam/DKIM issues

2015-10-19 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 10/19/2015 02:24 AM, Marc Bourgeois wrote: > > When someone write to the list, the relayed mail to other users is > considered as spam in their mailboxes (gmail for instance) > > It seems that directly sent mails from mailman, signed with dkim, pass spam > filters And DKIM signing your outbo

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam/DKIM issues

2015-10-19 Thread Marc Bourgeois
Thanks for replying > > > I'm trying to build a few mailing list with mailman. > > I've got some trouble with spam/dkim > > It's not a Mailman problem as far as I can see. Mailman doesn't > produce DKIM signatures ever: that's for the MTA to do. > > got it :) > It would help if you explain wh

[Mailman-Users] Spam/DKIM issues

2015-10-18 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Marc Bourgeois writes: > I'm trying to build a few mailing list with mailman. > I've got some trouble with spam/dkim It's not a Mailman problem as far as I can see. Mailman doesn't produce DKIM signatures ever: that's for the MTA to do. It would help if you explain what the specific symptoms

[Mailman-Users] Spam/DKIM issues

2015-10-18 Thread Marc Bourgeois
Hi to everyone, I'm trying to build a few mailing list with mailman. I've got some trouble with spam/dkim (In the past it was working out-of-the-box ! -without dkim) I'm running a Debian 7.9 server, with postfix. When I'm sending email from a system user, I can see in mail header : dkim=pass he

Re: [Mailman-Users] spam filter not working

2015-07-07 Thread Skip Montanaro
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 9:47 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > Which means they run spamassassin against outgoing mail but not incoming > mail. The mind boggles at the absurdity ... It might be possible to worm around this craziness. You'd need two lists though, one which just forwards to the second. The s

Re: [Mailman-Users] spam filter not working

2015-07-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/06/2015 08:53 AM, Bernie Cosell wrote: > > I have confirmed with the sysadmins: > >There is no way to set it to use spam assassin first. Which means they run spamassassin against outgoing mail but not incoming mail. The mind boggles at the absurdity ... -- Mark Sapiro Th

Re: [Mailman-Users] spam filter not working

2015-07-06 Thread Bernie Cosell
> > I have a spam filter set to 'hold': > > > > X-Spam-Level:\s*\*\*\* > I would use > > ^X-Spam-Level:\s*\*\*\* > > but yours should match any with 3 or more stars, in particular the one > above. I have confirmed with the sysadmins: There is no way to set it to use spam assassin fir

Re: [Mailman-Users] spam filter not working

2015-07-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/04/2015 10:32 AM, Bernie Cosell wrote: > > I've looked through the headers and it appears that my service provider > only runs spam assassin *AFTER* the message goes through mailman -- the > spam assassin headers come *after* all the mailman headers. I don't > know if I can fix/change t

Re: [Mailman-Users] spam filter not working

2015-07-04 Thread Bernie Cosell
On 4 Jul 2015 at 8:22, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 07/03/2015 09:03 AM, Bernie Cosell wrote: > > I have a spam filter set to 'hold': > > > > X-Spam-Level:\s*\*\*\* > I would use > > ^X-Spam-Level:\s*\*\*\* > > but yours should match any with 3 or more stars, in particular the one > above. > > Is

Re: [Mailman-Users] spam filter not working

2015-07-04 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 07/03/2015 09:03 AM, Bernie Cosell wrote: > I've looked through the FAQs and the archives and my spam filters *OUGHT* > to work. But it seems they're not and I don't know why. > > I have a spam filter set to 'hold': > > X-Spam-Level:\s*\*\*\* > > And a message with these headers just got bl

[Mailman-Users] spam filter not working

2015-07-04 Thread Bernie Cosell
I've looked through the FAQs and the archives and my spam filters *OUGHT* to work. But it seems they're not and I don't know why. I have a spam filter set to 'hold': X-Spam-Level:\s*\*\*\* And a message with these headers just got blasted out to the list: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin

Re: [Mailman-Users] [SPAM] - Re: Mailman on CentOs - Sender is forged (SPF Fail)

2015-05-08 Thread Eric Lamer
=phoenixsecure@python.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Putnam Sent: Friday, May 8, 2015 11:40 AM To: mailman-users@python.org Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] [SPAM] - Re: Mailman on CentOs - Sender is forged (SPF Fail) On 5/8/2015 11:32 AM, Eric Lamer wrote: > Hi, > >Is it normal that /var/www/html/mai

Re: [Mailman-Users] [SPAM] - Re: Mailman on CentOs - Sender is forged (SPF Fail)

2015-05-08 Thread Dennis Putnam
On 5/8/2015 11:32 AM, Eric Lamer wrote: > Hi, > >Is it normal that /var/www/html/mailman does not exist? > > > [Fri May 08 11:27:01 2015] [error] [client 192.168.2.70] > > [Fri May 08 11:27:01 2015] [error] [client 192.168.2.70] [- Mailman > Ve

Re: [Mailman-Users] [SPAM] - Re: Mailman on CentOs - Sender is forged (SPF Fail)

2015-05-08 Thread Eric Lamer
Hi, Is it normal that /var/www/html/mailman does not exist? [Fri May 08 11:27:01 2015] [error] [client 192.168.2.70] [Fri May 08 11:27:01 2015] [error] [client 192.168.2.70] [- Mailman Version: 2.1.20 -] [Fri May 08 11:27:01 2015] [error]

Re: [Mailman-Users] [SPAM] - Re: Mailman on CentOs - Sender is forged (SPF Fail)

2015-05-08 Thread Eric Lamer
Mailman is running as user Mailman Apache is running as user Apache What I suspect is the httpd could now write to the error log. EricLamer CEO Phoenix Secure Inc. 514-914-5599 514-800-2556 e...@phoenixsecure.com From: Ralf Hildebrandt Sent

[Mailman-Users] [Spam] Re: Digest option for Yahoo and AOL subscribers?

2014-05-26 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
John Levine writes: > >My understanding is that DMARC WAS going through the standardization > >process, and actually was to the state where experimental use was > >justified (and in some sense actually required). ... > > No, not at all. DMARC was designed and implemented by a small closed

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam detection issue

2013-10-11 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
> Hi Stephen, > > Really thanks for the comprehensive answer. In my situation I'm using > following reg expression to catch spam. > > X\-Spam\-Flag\: Yes.* > > Is it wrong? Maybe. I forget the exact context, but in some places exact matches and regular expressions can both be users. I

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam detection issue

2013-10-11 Thread Re
Hi Stephen, Really thanks for the comprehensive answer. In my situation I'm using following reg expression to catch spam. X\-Spam\-Flag\: Yes.* Is it wrong? I have a separate server for spamassasin and not using an extension like you mentioned above. Thanks, Rumesh On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 8:1

[Mailman-Users] Spam detection issue

2013-10-08 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Re@lබණ්ඩා™ writes: > I've detected something doubtful situation in mailman because it has > released an email with spam flagged. Mailman doesn't know anything about spam or spam flags. Mailman's native filtering uses regular expressions, and takes certain actions based on matches to those regu

[Mailman-Users] Spam detection issue

2013-10-08 Thread Re
Hi All, I've detected something doubtful situation in mailman because it has released an email with spam flagged. I'm attaching my received email's header which is flagged spam yet released by the mailman. But I've checked this scenario many times later but mailman was rejected them all as it shou

Re: [Mailman-Users] SPAM Filtering - was:(no subject)

2013-06-01 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 05/14/2013 12:43 PM, Christopher Adams wrote: > On another note, what are thoughts about utilizing SpamAssasin or other > spam software with Postfix and Mailman. It seems that a lot of the traffic > that is going through the Mailman server is spam, quite a bit which is > flagged and blocked by

Re: [Mailman-Users] SPAM On Mailman

2013-03-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
Allan Herman wrote: >Why don't you just reject/discard all email unless it is from a subscriber? Discard is fine, but Reject is bad as it just causes backscatter to the innocent 3rd parties whose addresses are spoofed in the From: of the spam. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers

Re: [Mailman-Users] SPAM On Mailman

2013-03-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
Fred Atkinson wrote: > > Is there any way to set Mailman to just delete these messages rather > than hold them for approval? Set Privacy options... -> Sender filters -> generic_nonmember_action to Discard -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Califo

Re: [Mailman-Users] SPAM On Mailman

2013-03-30 Thread Odhiambo Washington
You just need to harden the spam filtering implementation on your SMTP server. Mailman will NOT do it for you. On 30 March 2013 16:55, Fred Atkinson wrote: > I have several lists that are receiving SPAM messages from multiple > sources. The lists do not forward them since I have it set n

Re: [Mailman-Users] SPAM On Mailman

2013-03-30 Thread Allan Herman
Why don't you just reject/discard all email unless it is from a subscriber? On 03-30-2013, at 9:55 AM, Fred Atkinson wrote: > I have several lists that are receiving SPAM messages from multiple > sources. The lists do not forward them since I have it set not to. > > But often I ha

[Mailman-Users] SPAM On Mailman

2013-03-30 Thread Fred Atkinson
I have several lists that are receiving SPAM messages from multiple sources. The lists do not forward them since I have it set not to. But often I have to go through the process of manually deleting them from the queue and I get messages telling me how many messages are pending ap

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam mails being received on the mailing list, solution needed....

2012-11-11 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Amit Bhatt : > we are receiving around 1000 spam E-mails on a daily basis via one of > our mailing lists. Most of these spams are received in form of > subscription requests. So only the list admin receives them (not everybody on the list), correct? And why do they contain spam? Could you sho

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam mails being received on the mailing list, solution needed....

2012-11-10 Thread Mark Sapiro
Amit Bhatt wrote: > >we are receiving around 1000 spam E-mails on a daily basis via one of our >mailing lists. Most of these spams are received in form of subscription >requests. The spam appearing in a huge scale is badly effecting the >performance of the list. >Would appreciate if anyone can s

[Mailman-Users] Spam mails being received on the mailing list, solution needed....

2012-11-10 Thread Amit Bhatt
dear all, we are receiving around 1000 spam E-mails on a daily basis via one of our mailing lists. Most of these spams are received in form of subscription requests. The spam appearing in a huge scale is badly effecting the performance of the list. Would appreciate if anyone can suggest us the

Re: [Mailman-Users] {Spam?} RE: Question regarding SPAM

2012-09-30 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 9/30/2012 8:03 PM, Futchko, Rose wrote: > > One question: is there a report or command that I can run to see how > many members where unsubscribed from any list on our Mailman service for > a period of time. The information is in Mailman's bounce and subscribe logs. -- Mark Sapiro T

Re: [Mailman-Users] {Spam?} RE: Question regarding SPAM

2012-09-30 Thread Futchko, Rose
Sapiro, Mark wrote: > Then again, how did the post reach the list in the first place. >>Non-member posts are discarded and you said the list is moderated which I think means that member posts are held for moderation, so how does a spam post get to the list? >>Does the list have some unmoderated m

Re: [Mailman-Users] {Spam?} RE: Question regarding SPAM

2012-09-28 Thread Mark Sapiro
Futchko, Rose wrote: > >Sapiro, Mark wrote: > >>Then how did the post reach the list? What is the list's Privacy >>options... -> Sender filters -> generic_nonmember_action setting? > >Discard Then again, how did the post reach the list in the first place. Non-member posts are discarded and you sa

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam filters

2012-05-19 Thread " Just Brits " Shop
<< On 5/14/2012 8:54 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: So my mailing lists are getting hit by spam that goes to the lists since it claims to be from some poor subscriber whose email got hijacked. >> Mark, it's nowhere near as bad as the same type/subject Yahoo Lists ! ! ! But to be more general, wha

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam filters

2012-05-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
Mark J Bradakis wrote: >But to be more general, what are some of the current >best practices to filter out spam in a postfix mailman environment >on Linux? I use greylisting with Postgrey and spam/virus/other scanning via MailScanner. Also to increase protection against hijacked list member's a

Re: [Mailman-Users] Spam filters

2012-05-15 Thread mailman
Am Dienstag, 15. Mai 2012, 03:54:21 schrieb Mark J Bradakis: > So my mailing lists are getting hit by spam that goes to the lists > since it claims to be from some poor subscriber whose email got > hijacked. But to be more general, what are some of the current > best practices to filter out spam i

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