Re: [Mailman-Users] attachments dir question

2010-05-06 Thread Savoy, Jim
Thanks Stephen.

I was wrong - an attachment directory was indeed created for my second
message as well.
In looking at the creation dates for that list, they always seem to be
created sometime
the next day after 3:00 am. Since the only cron job I run at that time for
Mailman is
senddigests, I guess that is what creates it.

So I guess the difference between my message being scrubbed, and a message
on
another list not being scrubbed, is the MUA (as the content-filtering is the
same on
all of our lists (ie never touched from the original defaults)). And because
filter_content
is set to NO on all lists, I don't imagine we're doing any filtering anyway.

As for the listname.mbox file, there isn't one. That directory has always
been empty.
The attachments dfirectory is very large though.

 - jim -



On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull step...@xemacs.orgwrote:

 Savoy, Jim writes:

   I was wondering what it is that determines if a message has scrubbed
   attachments.

 The options you have set for filtering and the MIME structure of the
 message does.  One possible explanation of your observation is that
 for some reason the first message had only a text/html part, and
 Mailman scrubbed it, while the second had both text/plain and
 text/html parts, so that the text/plain part was retained as is and
 the text/html discarded entirely.

   why would there be inconsistencies between the message I posted
   just now and the one I posted 2 days ago?

 Most likely, because the structures of the messages created by your
 MUA were different.

 To determine for sure what's going on we'd need to know the exact
 settings of your content filtering options, and see the raw messages
 including all headers from the
 mailman/archives/private/LIST.mbox/LIST.mbox file.


--
Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3
Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Unsubscribe: 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org


Re: [Mailman-Users] attachments dir question

2010-05-06 Thread Mark Sapiro
Savoy, Jim wrote:

I was wrong - an attachment directory was indeed created for my second
message as well.
In looking at the creation dates for that list, they always seem to be
created sometime
the next day after 3:00 am. Since the only cron job I run at that time for
Mailman is
senddigests, I guess that is what creates it.


Yes, The message contains a non-text/plain part or a text/plain part
other that the default body with an unspecified character set and this
part is scrubbed for the plain format digest.

You'll get more information from the digest itself.


[...]
As for the listname.mbox file, there isn't one. That directory has always
been empty.


So either the lists are set to not archive or ARCHIVE_TO_MBOX is set to
something other than 1 or 2 in mm_cfg.py.


The attachments dfirectory is very large though.


Because of all the parts scrubbed from the plain digest. Note that this
will be done as long as the list is digestable even if no one is
subscribed to the plain digest.

-- 
Mark Sapiro m...@msapiro.netThe highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan

--
Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3
Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Unsubscribe: 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org


[Mailman-Users] attachments dir question

2010-05-05 Thread Savoy, Jim
Hi all - I am running Mailman 2.1.5 (still!).

I was wondering what it is that determines if a message has scrubbed
attachments. For instance, a couple of days ago, I sent a simple message to
one of my lists - just a sentence or two of text, and it created a directory
under
/archives/private/listname/attachments for it. I looked in there and
displayed
the HTML file it created, and all it had in it was my text and a few BRs.

I used the same mailer today and sent out another simple text message, and
no directory was created under attachments this time.

And then I compare my list (not-archived, digestible, no digest members)
to another identical list with plenty of posts sent to it (according to
/logs/post),
and there is no attachment directory at all. I just assumed it was the
mailer
I am using that determines if part of it should be scrubbed, but if that
were
so, why would there be inconsistencies between the message I posted just
now and the one I posted 2 days ago?

Thanks in advance.

 - jim -
--
Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3
Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Unsubscribe: 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org


[Mailman-Users] attachments dir question

2010-05-05 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Savoy, Jim writes:

  I was wondering what it is that determines if a message has scrubbed
  attachments.

The options you have set for filtering and the MIME structure of the
message does.  One possible explanation of your observation is that
for some reason the first message had only a text/html part, and
Mailman scrubbed it, while the second had both text/plain and
text/html parts, so that the text/plain part was retained as is and
the text/html discarded entirely.

  why would there be inconsistencies between the message I posted
  just now and the one I posted 2 days ago?

Most likely, because the structures of the messages created by your
MUA were different.

To determine for sure what's going on we'd need to know the exact
settings of your content filtering options, and see the raw messages
including all headers from the
mailman/archives/private/LIST.mbox/LIST.mbox file.

--
Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3
Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/
Unsubscribe: 
http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org