Re: [MlMt] Editing previous sent addresses
On 3 May 2017, at 13:58, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote: I don't use the IMAP server as an archive for this 3 reasons: 1. I don't have so much space on my email-account. That might be worth looking into :) (Note that there is nothing preventing you from a using another IMAP account for long term storage.) 2. Archiving email-messages outside the email-client I can rely on Finder- / Spotlight- / HoudahSpot-search to find anything (including email-messages). I'm not saying that MailMate is bad on searching - I'm using it every day for the email-messages I still haven't archived yet. If Spotlight indexing and a custom location is enabled in the General preferences pane then this should work for MailMate emails as well. 3. Even after switching to MailMate I still like to believe that every email-client works faster and need less RAM when having less emails to deal with. I'm sure you've done and continuously do a lot of work to make MailMate fast and less RAM-hungry, but still. :-) I'm not going to argue with this point :) -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Editing previous sent addresses
On 2 May 2017, at 22:20, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 2 May 2017, at 17:46, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote: On 2 May 2017, at 9:00, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 29 Apr 2017, at 17:52, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote: To recap: Wouldn't be nice to open a new email and have a pop-up with the previous used email-adresses *regardless if the email-messages are still in MailMate or not*? I actually think the opposite is nice, but I also consider IMAP to be the primary storage of email. I would never remove sent messages. Did I understand you corectly: You say that you would archive everything but the sent messages? Only to get all the previous sender?! I wouldn't (and I don't) archive any messages. The IMAP server *is* the archive. It's similar to having a cloud-based set of folders with emails. I'm not doing this to have “previous senders”. I'm doing this because this is how IMAP is intended to be used and it works well for me. It is, of course, fine to use it in different ways. I understand. I don't use the IMAP server as an archive for this 3 reasons: 1. I don't have so much space on my email-account. 2. Archiving email-messages outside the email-client I can rely on Finder- / Spotlight- / HoudahSpot-search to find anything (including email-messages). I'm not saying that MailMate is bad on searching - I'm using it every day for the email-messages I still haven't archived yet. 3. Even after switching to MailMate I still like to believe that every email-client works faster and need less RAM when having less emails to deal with. I'm sure you've done and continuously do a lot of work to make MailMate fast and less RAM-hungry, but still. :-) (…) Note that I don't reject the idea of *also* having an explicit list of “previous recipients”. You just shouldn't expect it soon. That's everything I was hopping for: an "*also*" (was never ever an "*instead*"!) and the hope! ;-) Thanks! Regards, Vlad ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Editing previous sent addresses
On 2 May 2017, at 9:00, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 29 Apr 2017, at 17:52, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote: On 29 Apr 2017, at 13:51, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: If it's a small set then I would recommend just using Contacts to keep track of these email addresses. How exactly do you mean this, Benny? To recap: Wouldn't be nice to open a new email and have a pop-up with the previous used email-adresses *regardless if the email-messages are still in MailMate or not*? I actually think the opposite is nice, but I also consider IMAP to be the primary storage of email. I would never remove sent messages. Did I understand you corectly: You say that you would archive everything but the sent messages? Only to get all the previous sender?! How could Contacts be of any help for this? Email addresses in Contacts are also shown in the email address popup. These are shown even if no sent messages exist to the same addresses. That's correct! If MailMate automatically added all recipients of your sent emails to Contacts then it would behave like “previous recipients”, but I doubt anyone would want that. Me neither! But even Mail.app ;-) shows there's a more elegant way to do this by keeping an internal, editable list of all the sent emails (= a subset of the Contacts ;-) I try to summarize: 1. Right now the previous sender come only from the sent messages --> no sent messages means no previous sender! & there's no way to edit the previous sender. 2. A separate list of the previous sender (= sender of the previous sent messages, even if they are not in the sent-messages-mailbox anymore) would imply a change but will allow both caveats from point 1: the previous sender stays even if the sent messages are archive AND one could edit this list! I'm trying to wet you appetite for point 2 obviously ;-)… but I really think that is a better idea?___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Editing previous sent addresses
On 29 Apr 2017, at 17:52, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote: On 29 Apr 2017, at 13:51, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: If it's a small set then I would recommend just using Contacts to keep track of these email addresses. How exactly do you mean this, Benny? To recap: Wouldn't be nice to open a new email and have a pop-up with the previous used email-adresses *regardless if the email-messages are still in MailMate or not*? I actually think the opposite is nice, but I also consider IMAP to be the primary storage of email. I would never remove sent messages. How could Contacts be of any help for this? Email addresses in Contacts are also shown in the email address popup. These are shown even if no sent messages exist to the same addresses. If MailMate automatically added all recipients of your sent emails to Contacts then it would behave like “previous recipients”, but I doubt anyone would want that. -- Benny (On vacation this week which means replies may be somewhat delayed. Sorry about that.) ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Editing previous sent addresses
On 28 Apr 2017, at 6:23, Benny Kjær Nielsen mailinglist-at-freron.com |Mailmate/RER>Vendor>Software> Freron Software| wrote: On 25 Apr 2017, at 17:08, Richard Rettke wrote: On 25 Apr 2017, at 4:34, Benny Kjær Nielsen mailingl...@freron.com wrote: I've also added a blacklist manager in the test release, but I don't think I've gotten any feedback on it yet. I'm not sure if that means it works well or not :) If you have an address entered in a Composer window then there is a menu available by clicking on the down-arrow at the far right of the address. This should show an “Add/Remove xxx from/to Blacklist” menu item (depending on whether the email address is already blacklisted). The same menu item is available in the headers view of messages displayed in the main window. I was unaware of this, so I downloaded and installed the latest Beta (Version 1.9.6 (5370) but do not find a down arrow at the right end of the address. Is there another 'test' version I should be downloading and if so, where to find it? There's no down arrow in the headers view when emails are displayed. In this case you have to use right-click to see the context sensitive menu. The arrow should be seen in the Composer header fields for each entered email address. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate Thanks, found it! -- __*Richard Rettke*__ *Laus Deo* *Non sibi sed patriae* https://about.me/rerettke ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Editing previous sent addresses
On 29 Apr 2017, at 13:51, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 28 Apr 2017, at 18:41, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote: On 28 Apr 2017, at 13:08, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 25 Apr 2017, at 12:10, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote: An editable list of previous recipients - independent of Sent Messages - would be therefore very useful. That's a bit like introducing an address book within MailMate itself. Actually not, it's only a small subset of the adress book: only the contacts I've emailed onced in the past. If it's a small set then I would recommend just using Contacts to keep track of these email addresses. How exactly do you mean this, Benny? To recap: Wouldn't be nice to open a new email and have a pop-up with the previous used email-adresses *regardless if the email-messages are still in MailMate or not*? How could Contacts be of any help for this?___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Editing previous sent addresses
On 28 Apr 2017, at 13:08, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 25 Apr 2017, at 12:10, Vlad Ghitulescu wrote: On 25 Apr 2017, at 11:34, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: Apple Mail has an explicit list of previous recipients. MailMate just looks at your existing Sent Messages. That brings an additional problem for me: due to the fact that I delete periodically the Sent Messages (after archiving them - with all the others email-messages - in a Finder-folder, that's outside MailMate) I cannot recall previous recipients at all! An editable list of previous recipients - independent of Sent Messages - would be therefore very useful. That's a bit like introducing an address book within MailMate itself. Actually not, it's only a small subset of the adress book: only the contacts I've emailed onced in the past. ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Editing previous sent addresses
On 25 Apr 2017, at 17:08, Richard Rettke wrote: On 25 Apr 2017, at 4:34, Benny Kjær Nielsen mailingl...@freron.com wrote: I've also added a blacklist manager in the test release, but I don't think I've gotten any feedback on it yet. I'm not sure if that means it works well or not :) If you have an address entered in a Composer window then there is a menu available by clicking on the down-arrow at the far right of the address. This should show an “Add/Remove xxx from/to Blacklist” menu item (depending on whether the email address is already blacklisted). The same menu item is available in the headers view of messages displayed in the main window. I was unaware of this, so I downloaded and installed the latest Beta (Version 1.9.6 (5370) but do not find a down arrow at the right end of the address. Is there another 'test' version I should be downloading and if so, where to find it? There's no down arrow in the headers view when emails are displayed. In this case you have to use right-click to see the context sensitive menu. The arrow should be seen in the Composer header fields for each entered email address. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Editing previous sent addresses
On 25 Apr 2017, at 16:33, John D. Muccigrosso wrote: Kind of relatedly, Mail.app also lets you click on a recipient and see the other addresses associated with that one in Contacts. It would be great to have this because I often want to switch emails for a given recipient. You mean showing them in the popup menu for an already existing recipient address in the Composer? (That might not be very hard to add.) -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Editing previous sent addresses
On 25 Apr 2017, at 4:34, Benny Kjær Nielsen mailingl...@freron.com wrote: I've also added a blacklist manager in the test release, but I don't think I've gotten any feedback on it yet. I'm not sure if that means it works well or not :) If you have an address entered in a Composer window then there is a menu available by clicking on the down-arrow at the far right of the address. This should show an “Add/Remove xxx from/to Blacklist” menu item (depending on whether the email address is already blacklisted). The same menu item is available in the headers view of messages displayed in the main window. I was unaware of this, so I downloaded and installed the latest Beta (Version 1.9.6 (5370) but do not find a down arrow at the right end of the address. Is there another 'test' version I should be downloading and if so, where to find it? -- __*Richard Rettke*__ *Laus Deo* *Non sibi sed patriae* ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Editing previous sent addresses
Kind of relatedly, Mail.app also lets you click on a recipient and see the other addresses associated with that one in Contacts. It would be great to have this because I often want to switch emails for a given recipient. John ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
