Re: [MlMt] remapping toolbar buttons

2018-04-07 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 7 Apr 2018, at 3:03, Eric Sharakan wrote:

Sorry, I meant to request having a separate "expunge" item available 
in the toolbar.  I was also trying to report that the customize 
toolbar screen has two identical "delete" icons:


Ah, I didn't know that. I'll fix that and see if I can also add an 
Expunge variant.


One problem I have is that my "expungeDeletedMessages:" keybinding 
is no longer working, and with auto-expunging disabled and no 
dedicated toolbar button I have no way to expunge my mailboxes.



Thanks it's working fine again.


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Re: [MlMt] remapping toolbar buttons

2018-04-06 Thread Eric Sharakan


On 6 Apr 2018, at 10:21, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 28 Mar 2018, at 22:27, Eric Sharakan wrote:


One more thing I just noticed: the setting

defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmShowDeletedMessages -bool NO

has no effect; the deleted messages are still visible.


It has never been possible to disable for IMAP mailboxes (something I 
expect to fix at some point), but it does affect smart mailboxes based 
on, e.g., All Messages.


Ahhh, okay.

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Re: [MlMt] remapping toolbar buttons

2018-04-06 Thread Eric Sharakan

On 6 Apr 2018, at 10:02, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 26 Mar 2018, at 23:35, Eric Sharakan wrote:

I just updated to r5467 and have started playing with these features. 
 I've set:


defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmDeleteBehavior -string 
"markAsDeleted"


...and the delete toolbar button now does just what I want.  Nice!  I 
noticed that MmShowDeletedMessages was set to true by default so I 
didn't need to enable that.


You probably configured it in the past (it already existed).


Yeah, I probably did.



I'm not interested in the auto-expunge behavior; I prefer to do it 
manually, so it would be nice to have a dedicated "expunge" toolbar 
button available.  BTW, I do see two identical looking "Delete 
Message" buttons in the customize toolbar pulldown; might one of them 
really be for expunging?


I'm afraid that would be very confusing.


Sorry, I meant to request having a separate "expunge" item available in 
the toolbar.  I was also trying to report that the customize toolbar 
screen has two identical "delete" icons:


![](cid:76D7CC7D-ED21-4F8A-BF50-2D0854E30C95@gmail.com "Screen Shot 
2018-04-06 at 9.01.56 PM.png")




Also your mail below references "MmAutomaticExpungeBehavior" while 
the release notes spell it "MmAutomatickExpungeBehavior".


Thanks, the latter is wrong.

One problem I have is that my "expungeDeletedMessages:" keybinding is 
no longer working, and with auto-expunging disabled and no dedicated 
toolbar button I have no way to expunge my mailboxes.


Sorry about that. I believe it's fixed in the test release now.


Thanks it's working fine again.

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Re: [MlMt] remapping toolbar buttons

2018-04-06 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 28 Mar 2018, at 22:27, Eric Sharakan wrote:


One more thing I just noticed: the setting

defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmShowDeletedMessages -bool NO

has no effect; the deleted messages are still visible.


It has never been possible to disable for IMAP mailboxes (something I 
expect to fix at some point), but it does affect smart mailboxes based 
on, e.g., All Messages.


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Re: [MlMt] remapping toolbar buttons

2018-04-06 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 26 Mar 2018, at 23:35, Eric Sharakan wrote:

I just updated to r5467 and have started playing with these features.  
I've set:


defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmDeleteBehavior -string 
"markAsDeleted"


...and the delete toolbar button now does just what I want.  Nice!  I 
noticed that MmShowDeletedMessages was set to true by default so I 
didn't need to enable that.


You probably configured it in the past (it already existed).

I'm not interested in the auto-expunge behavior; I prefer to do it 
manually, so it would be nice to have a dedicated "expunge" toolbar 
button available.  BTW, I do see two identical looking "Delete 
Message" buttons in the customize toolbar pulldown; might one of them 
really be for expunging?


I'm afraid that would be very confusing.

Also your mail below references "MmAutomaticExpungeBehavior" while the 
release notes spell it "MmAutomatickExpungeBehavior".


Thanks, the latter is wrong.

One problem I have is that my "expungeDeletedMessages:" keybinding is 
no longer working, and with auto-expunging disabled and no dedicated 
toolbar button I have no way to expunge my mailboxes.


Sorry about that. I believe it's fixed in the test release now.

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Re: [MlMt] remapping toolbar buttons

2018-03-28 Thread Eric Sharakan
On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Eric Sharakan  wrote:

> On 26 Mar 2018, at 17:35, Eric Sharakan wrote:
>
> I just updated to r5467 and have started playing with these features.
>> I've set:
>>
>> defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmDeleteBehavior -string
>> "markAsDeleted"
>>
>> ...and the delete toolbar button now does just what I want.  Nice!  I
>> noticed that MmShowDeletedMessages was set to true by default so I didn't
>> need to enable that.
>>
>> I'm not interested in the auto-expunge behavior; I prefer to do it
>> manually, so it would be nice to have a dedicated "expunge" toolbar button
>> available.  BTW, I do see two identical looking "Delete Message" buttons in
>> the customize toolbar pulldown; might one of them really be for
>> expunging?.  Also your mail below references "MmAutomaticExpungeBehavior"
>> while the release notes spell it "MmAutomatickExpungeBehavior".
>>
>> One problem I have is that my "expungeDeletedMessages:" keybinding is no
>> longer working, and with auto-expunging disabled and no dedicated toolbar
>> button I have no way to expunge my mailboxes.
>>
>
> This is actually becoming a very nagging issue.  Is there any way to
> manually expunge my mailboxes with this build?  Can the non-functional
> keybinding please be fixed?
>
> Thanks.
>
> -Eric
>

One more thing I just noticed: the setting

defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmShowDeletedMessages -bool NO

has no effect; the deleted messages are still visible.

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Re: [MlMt] remapping toolbar buttons

2018-03-28 Thread Eric Sharakan

On 26 Mar 2018, at 17:35, Eric Sharakan wrote:

I just updated to r5467 and have started playing with these features.  
I've set:


defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmDeleteBehavior -string 
"markAsDeleted"


...and the delete toolbar button now does just what I want.  Nice!  I 
noticed that MmShowDeletedMessages was set to true by default so I 
didn't need to enable that.


I'm not interested in the auto-expunge behavior; I prefer to do it 
manually, so it would be nice to have a dedicated "expunge" toolbar 
button available.  BTW, I do see two identical looking "Delete 
Message" buttons in the customize toolbar pulldown; might one of them 
really be for expunging?.  Also your mail below references 
"MmAutomaticExpungeBehavior" while the release notes spell it 
"MmAutomatickExpungeBehavior".


One problem I have is that my "expungeDeletedMessages:" keybinding is 
no longer working, and with auto-expunging disabled and no dedicated 
toolbar button I have no way to expunge my mailboxes.


This is actually becoming a very nagging issue.  Is there any way to 
manually expunge my mailboxes with this build?  Can the non-functional 
keybinding please be fixed?


Thanks.

-Eric
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Re: [MlMt] remapping toolbar buttons

2018-03-26 Thread Eric Sharakan
I just updated to r5467 and have started playing with these features.  
I've set:


defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmDeleteBehavior -string 
"markAsDeleted"


...and the delete toolbar button now does just what I want.  Nice!  I 
noticed that MmShowDeletedMessages was set to true by default so I 
didn't need to enable that.


I'm not interested in the auto-expunge behavior; I prefer to do it 
manually, so it would be nice to have a dedicated "expunge" toolbar 
button available.  BTW, I do see two identical looking "Delete Message" 
buttons in the customize toolbar pulldown; might one of them really be 
for expunging?.  Also your mail below references 
"MmAutomaticExpungeBehavior" while the release notes spell it 
"MmAutomatickExpungeBehavior".


One problem I have is that my "expungeDeletedMessages:" keybinding is no 
longer working, and with auto-expunging disabled and no dedicated 
toolbar button I have no way to expunge my mailboxes.


Thanks.

-Eric

On 22 Mar 2018, at 10:20, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 19 Mar 2018, at 14:03, Eric Sharakan wrote:


On 19 Mar 2018, at 5:54, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

Sorry, the toolbar button is not configurable. I do have some notes 
on making the IMAP-expunge model a “real” feature in the sense 
of it just being a simple checkmark option in the Preferences. This 
would then include changing the behavior of the toolbar button.


That would be fabulous!  Please add my strong vote for this feature.


Try the latest test release: Hold down ⌥ when clicking “Check 
Now” in the Software Update preferences pane.


You should enable these settings:

defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmShowDeletedMessages -bool YES
	defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmDeleteBehavior -string 
"markAsDeleted"


And possibly this one:

	defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmAutomaticExpungeBehavior -string 
"mailboxSwitch"


If you want GUI settings (Viewer prefs pane) then download the 2.0BETA 
(which has *a few* more features than 1.x): 
https://updates.mailmate-app.com/2.0/archives/MailMate_r6107.tbz


Also note that both versions support a `deleteBehavior` key in the 
`Sources.plist` file if you need to have different behaviors for 
different accounts (something requested by someone else).


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Re: [MlMt] remapping toolbar buttons

2018-03-22 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 19 Mar 2018, at 14:03, Eric Sharakan wrote:


On 19 Mar 2018, at 5:54, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

Sorry, the toolbar button is not configurable. I do have some notes 
on making the IMAP-expunge model a “real” feature in the sense of 
it just being a simple checkmark option in the Preferences. This 
would then include changing the behavior of the toolbar button.


That would be fabulous!  Please add my strong vote for this feature.


Try the latest test release: Hold down ⌥ when clicking “Check Now” 
in the Software Update preferences pane.


You should enable these settings:

defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmShowDeletedMessages -bool YES
	defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmDeleteBehavior -string 
"markAsDeleted"


And possibly this one:

	defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmAutomaticExpungeBehavior -string 
"mailboxSwitch"


If you want GUI settings (Viewer prefs pane) then download the 2.0BETA 
(which has *a few* more features than 1.x): 
https://updates.mailmate-app.com/2.0/archives/MailMate_r6107.tbz


Also note that both versions support a `deleteBehavior` key in the 
`Sources.plist` file if you need to have different behaviors for 
different accounts (something requested by someone else).


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Re: [MlMt] remapping toolbar buttons

2018-03-19 Thread Eric Sharakan

On 19 Mar 2018, at 5:54, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:


On 14 Mar 2018, at 22:24, Eric Sharakan wrote:

Is there a way for me to rebind the delete toolbar button to do a 
"setTag:", "\\Deleted", to match my other custom keybindings for 
deleting messages?


Sorry, the toolbar button is not configurable. I do have some notes on 
making the IMAP-expunge model a “real” feature in the sense of it 
just being a simple checkmark option in the Preferences. This would 
then include changing the behavior of the toolbar button.


That would be fabulous!  Please add my strong vote for this feature.



(I think most users preferring the expunge model are also keyboard 
centric users, but I might be wrong about that :) )


I switch back and forth enough that I can't be categorized that easily. 
:-)


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Re: [MlMt] remapping toolbar buttons

2018-03-19 Thread Benny Kjær Nielsen

On 14 Mar 2018, at 22:24, Eric Sharakan wrote:

Is there a way for me to rebind the delete toolbar button to do a 
"setTag:", "\\Deleted", to match my other custom keybindings for 
deleting messages?


Sorry, the toolbar button is not configurable. I do have some notes on 
making the IMAP-expunge model a “real” feature in the sense of it 
just being a simple checkmark option in the Preferences. This would then 
include changing the behavior of the toolbar button.


(I think most users preferring the expunge model are also keyboard 
centric users, but I might be wrong about that :) )


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