Re: [mailop] [EXT] - Dear sympatico.ca

2023-03-24 Thread Salvatore Jr Walter P via mailop
You could always do what we do with AT&T. We have been blocked for months with no response and no reason given from AT&T. We are a government agency, so we simply told our vendors and other entity's we deal with that if they use AT&T or any ISP associated with them we will not be able to commun

Re: [mailop] mailgun anybody? (variable sender address) time

2023-03-24 Thread Bill Cole via mailop
On 2023-03-24 at 18:01:50 UTC-0400 (Fri, 24 Mar 2023 23:01:50 +0100) Heiko Schlittermann via mailop is rumored to have said: What does this change? From senders PoV it is a temporary error. The sender will retry. The point of greylisting and "NoListing" is to eliminate the spammers who do no

Re: [mailop] Dear sympatico.ca

2023-03-24 Thread fh--- via mailop
On 2023-03-25 07:37, Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM) via mailop wrote: If you are going to block my MTA from sending email to your customers, do us all the favour of preventing your users from sending email to my MTAs in the first place. you can try to contact Bell Canada for support. dns-ad

[mailop] Dear sympatico.ca

2023-03-24 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM) via mailop
If you are going to block my MTA from sending email to your customers, do us all the favour of preventing your users from sending email to my MTAs in the first place. When they send me mail, but you refuse to let me reply, it makes me look like I'm ignoring them, or blowing them off. Imputing tha

Re: [mailop] mailgun anybody? (variable sender address) time

2023-03-24 Thread Grant Taylor via mailop
On 3/24/23 4:01 PM, Heiko Schlittermann via mailop wrote: Hm. Maybe I'm stupid. Nope. I'm sure that's not the case. We all learn things when exposed to new things. ;-) What does this change? From senders PoV it is a temporary error. The sender will retry. NoListing works by causing the

Re: [mailop] mailgun anybody? (variable sender address) time

2023-03-24 Thread Heiko Schlittermann via mailop
Grant Taylor via mailop (Fr 24 Mär 2023 16:42:07 CET): > On 3/24/23 1:24 AM, Renaud Allard via mailop wrote: > > I would say, that's called greylisting. But with a changing envelope, > > the message has no chances to pass any greylisting process. The > > behaviour from mailgun would make them unab

Re: [mailop] [E] Anyone from Yahoo/ATT ?

2023-03-24 Thread Marcel Becker via mailop
On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 2:08 AM Graeme Slogrove via mailop < mailop@mailop.org> wrote: > We are having emails from our cloud service going directly to the SPAM > folder in Yahoo/ATT. > Lili already helped, but in general we encourage folks to go to https://senders.yahooinc.com for help and conta

Re: [mailop] mailgun anybody? (variable sender address) time

2023-03-24 Thread Grant Taylor via mailop
On 3/24/23 1:24 AM, Renaud Allard via mailop wrote: I would say, that's called greylisting. But with a changing envelope, the message has no chances to pass any greylisting process. The behaviour from mailgun would make them unable to pass any kind of greylisting anywhere. That's one of the a

Re: [mailop] Hotmail will start rejecting messages that fail DMARC

2023-03-24 Thread Slavko via mailop
Dňa 24. marca 2023 13:23:04 UTC používateľ Bill Cole via mailop napísal: >I would not interpret a rejection as being due to DMARC unless the error >message specifically cited it This will not always to happen... Eg. with exim+rspamd, where DMARC rejection is done (suggested) by rspamd, it is

Re: [mailop] sender domain reputation

2023-03-24 Thread Dan Malm via mailop
On 3/22/23 23:32, Bill Cole via mailop wrote: It may be worth noting that pw has a particularly notable position, as it was one of the earliest demonstrators of how a registry can sabotage a TLD. They decided to market their "Pro Web" domains by making them free and returnable for a while when

Re: [mailop] Hotmail will start rejecting messages that fail DMARC

2023-03-24 Thread Bill Cole via mailop
On 2023-03-23 at 16:18:24 UTC-0400 (Thu, 23 Mar 2023 15:18:24 -0500) Jarland Donnell via mailop is rumored to have said: I'd like to add a +1 to this for clarification, but in my case I'm focused solely on SRS. Will Hotmail reject DMARC failures based on From headers or envelope senders? DMA

Re: [mailop] mailgun anybody? (variable sender address) time

2023-03-24 Thread Julian Bradfield via mailop
On 2023-03-24, Heiko Schlittermann via mailop wrote: > fh--- via mailop (Fr 24 Mär 2023 03:56:53 CET): >> > does anybody from mailgun read here? >> > Your messages are tmprejected at our systems, w/o any chance to pass >> > ever. >> b/c they were sending spams? > > I can't tell, because we reject

Re: [mailop] [E] Anyone from Yahoo/ATT ?

2023-03-24 Thread Lili Crowley via mailop
Please contact me off list. I can help with both Thanks! On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 5:08 AM Graeme Slogrove via mailop < mailop@mailop.org> wrote: > Hi, > > We are having emails from our cloud service going directly to the SPAM > folder in Yahoo/ATT. > > SPF/DKIM/DMARC show pass in the message > >

Re: [mailop] mailgun anybody? (variable sender address) time

2023-03-24 Thread Heiko Schlittermann via mailop
fh--- via mailop (Fr 24 Mär 2023 03:56:53 CET): > > does anybody from mailgun read here? > > Your messages are tmprejected at our systems, w/o any chance to pass > > ever. > b/c they were sending spams? I can't tell, because we rejected them with 4xx and they do not pass the greylisting with a ch

Re: [mailop] mailgun anybody? (variable sender address) time

2023-03-24 Thread Heiko Schlittermann via mailop
Renaud Allard via mailop (Fr 24 Mär 2023 08:24:20 CET): > > > does anybody from mailgun read here? > > > Your messages are tmprejected at our systems, w/o any chance to pass > > > ever. > > > > Why are you using tmp rejections for something permanent? Yes, it *is* greylisting. https://gitea.sch

Re: [mailop] mailgun anybody? (variable sender address) time

2023-03-24 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 24.03.2023 o godz. 08:24:20 Renaud Allard via mailop pisze: > > I would say, that's called greylisting. But with a changing > envelope, the message has no chances to pass any greylisting > process. The behaviour from mailgun would make them unable to pass > any kind of greylisting anywhere.

[mailop] Anyone from Yahoo/ATT ?

2023-03-24 Thread Graeme Slogrove via mailop
Hi, We are having emails from our cloud service going directly to the SPAM folder in Yahoo/ATT. SPF/DKIM/DMARC show pass in the message Is there someone we can connect with to understand why and correct? Thanks! Graeme Email secured by Trustwave advanced threat protection. Learn more at htt

Re: [mailop] mailgun anybody? (variable sender address) time

2023-03-24 Thread Renaud Allard via mailop
On 3/23/23 16:31, Laura Atkins via mailop wrote: On 23 Mar 2023, at 14:47, Heiko Schlittermann via mailop wrote: Hi, does anybody from mailgun read here? Your messages are tmprejected at our systems, w/o any chance to pass ever. Why are you using tmp rejections for something permanent?