Re: [mailop] Haraka status? Exim the only choice? (v Postfix)

2021-05-20 Thread Chris via mailop
On 2021-05-01 3:34 a.m., Heiko Schlittermann via mailop wrote: > I forgot the "selling point" that hooked me: The specification. > >http://exim.org/exim-html-current/doc/html/spec_html/index.html > > It simply contains everything you need. But the reader has to > understand, that

Re: [mailop] Haraka status? Exim the only choice? (v Postfix)

2021-05-11 Thread André Peters via mailop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 - -- Originalnachricht -- Von: "Ralph Seichter via mailop" An: mailop@mailop.org Gesendet: 12.05.2021 03:26:07 Betreff: Re: [mailop] Haraka status? Exim the only choice? (v Postfix) * Vsevolod Stakhov via mailop: I w

Re: [mailop] Haraka status? Exim the only choice? (v Postfix)

2021-05-11 Thread Ralph Seichter via mailop
* Vsevolod Stakhov via mailop: > I would still recommend to use Rspamd for regular expressions > matching. That figures. :-) > you won't need any other milters when using Rspamd: no OpenDKIM/DMARC, > no additional spam/bayes engine, even no AV milters - all these tasks > could be done via

Re: [mailop] Haraka status? Exim the only choice? (v Postfix)

2021-05-10 Thread Sabahattin Gucukoglu via mailop
On 7 May 2021, at 15:31, Steven Champeon via mailop wrote: > I know that sendmail rulesets have been compared to modem line noise and > Mr. Dithers' cursing, and can attest to the fact that writing them is > far more satisfying than reading them, but you have almost infinite > customization

Re: [mailop] Haraka status? Exim the only choice? (v Postfix)

2021-05-09 Thread Vsevolod Stakhov via mailop
On 09/05/2021 20:03, Ralph Seichter via mailop wrote: > * Steven Champeon via mailop: > >> if you need something special [in Postfix], such as say, blocking mail >> from the idiot with infinite Gmail accounts having common Vietnamese >> surnames in them who keeps trying to sell t-shirts to your

Re: [mailop] Haraka status? Exim the only choice? (v Postfix)

2021-05-09 Thread Ralph Seichter via mailop
* Steven Champeon via mailop: > if you need something special [in Postfix], such as say, blocking mail > from the idiot with infinite Gmail accounts having common Vietnamese > surnames in them who keeps trying to sell t-shirts to your role > accounts, you're out of luck. I use Postfix plus

Re: [mailop] Haraka status? Exim the only choice? (v Postfix)

2021-05-07 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn via mailop
On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 8:23 AM Steven Champeon via mailop wrote: > I've only ever seen 11 hosts that were > actually running it. > I use it as an 'internal relay' and it works well. Hundreds of copiers, UPS units, and other low-level network devices use it as their outbound SMTP server. It

Re: [mailop] Haraka status? Exim the only choice? (v Postfix)

2021-05-07 Thread Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop
Am 07.05.21 um 16:31 schrieb Steven Champeon via mailop: > > As for Haraka, I haven't followed it closely but know Matt to be a solid > coder; the impression I got when he was writing it was that it was on a > lark to see if he could write an RFC-compliant SMTP server in > Javascript. I think the

Re: [mailop] Haraka status? Exim the only choice? (v Postfix)

2021-05-07 Thread Steven Champeon via mailop
on Sat, May 01, 2021 at 03:18:49AM +, MRob via mailop wrote: > Can I ask what are mailop's opinions about Exim? Thanks you! I'm a dinosaur who at one point had 15K lines of custom m4 code in my sendmail setup (I removed a few thousand a few years back for various reasons), and am still

Re: [mailop] Haraka status? Exim the only choice? (v Postfix)

2021-05-03 Thread Andris Reinman via mailop
Hi, In the WildDuck email server (https://wildduck.email/ ) Haraka handles the MX part. I would say that Haraka is not exactly a server software but a framework. For example in the WildDuck setup it does not handle any queueing. Instead Haraka performs all of it's

Re: [mailop] Haraka status? Exim the only choice? (v Postfix)

2021-05-03 Thread Adam Moffett via mailop
-- Original Message -- From: "MRob via mailop" To: mailop@mailop.org Sent: 4/30/2021 11:18:49 PM Subject: [mailop] Haraka status? Exim the only choice? (v Postfix) Hi -- I used Postfix along time but my experience is that it is incredible difficult to implement custom logic

Re: [mailop] Haraka status? Exim the only choice? (v Postfix)

2021-05-02 Thread Ralph Seichter via mailop
* Vsevolod Stakhov via mailop: > [...] I can clearly see that Exim can also do many things internally > (for example, more sophisticated email routing) that are literally > impossible to inject or implement via the milter interface (apart from > adding/removing recipients). I have yet to

Re: [mailop] Haraka status? Exim the only choice? (v Postfix)

2021-05-01 Thread Vsevolod Stakhov via mailop
On 01/05/2021 10:09, Thomas Walter via mailop wrote: > > > On 01.05.21 09:05, Chris via mailop wrote: >> Heh. You've never used Qpsmtpd or Haraka, I can tell. Haraka and > > Nope. Didn't have to. That's why I was curious about use cases that were > not possible with the more common MTAs. >

Re: [mailop] Haraka status? Exim the only choice? (v Postfix)

2021-05-01 Thread Matthias Leisi via mailop
> I used Postfix along time but my experience is that it is incredible > difficult to implement custom logic especially across the different > binaries/processes it uses to fulfil a mail delivery transaction. Its > designed in the "unix philosophy" and has good performance - great but >

Re: [mailop] Haraka status? Exim the only choice? (v Postfix)

2021-05-01 Thread Thomas Walter via mailop
On 01.05.21 09:05, Chris via mailop wrote: > Heh. You've never used Qpsmtpd or Haraka, I can tell. Haraka and Nope. Didn't have to. That's why I was curious about use cases that were not possible with the more common MTAs. > qpsmtpd are basically skeletons where you can insert plugins to >

Re: [mailop] Haraka status? Exim the only choice? (v Postfix)

2021-05-01 Thread Heiko Schlittermann via mailop
I forgot the "selling point" that hooked me: The specification. http://exim.org/exim-html-current/doc/html/spec_html/index.html It simply contains everything you need. But the reader has to understand, that setup/operation of mail server can be a complex task. As you're on *this* mailop

Re: [mailop] Haraka status? Exim the only choice? (v Postfix)

2021-05-01 Thread Heiko Schlittermann via mailop
Hi Rob, I'm biased as part of the Exim development team. Exim - is actively maintained - has a huge user base - provides more flexibility than other MTA I'm aware of (but, this is *my* PoV) > That mean Exim is the only real choice? It was a good laughing from this > recent mailop post about

Re: [mailop] Haraka status? Exim the only choice? (v Postfix)

2021-05-01 Thread Chris via mailop
Heh. You've never used Qpsmtpd or Haraka, I can tell. Haraka and qpsmtpd are basically skeletons where you can insert plugins to do/redefine anything you want pre/during/post any step of SMTP. Want to extend/redefine SMTP? Sure. Parallelize queries to any kind of database? Fine. Regexp

Re: [mailop] Haraka status? Exim the only choice? (v Postfix)

2021-05-01 Thread Thomas Walter via mailop
Hello MRob, On 01.05.21 05:18, MRob via mailop wrote: > I used Postfix along time but my experience is that it is incredible > difficult to implement custom logic especially across the different > binaries/processes it uses to fulfil a mail delivery transaction. Its > designed in the "unix

[mailop] Haraka status? Exim the only choice? (v Postfix)

2021-04-30 Thread MRob via mailop
Hi -- I used Postfix along time but my experience is that it is incredible difficult to implement custom logic especially across the different binaries/processes it uses to fulfil a mail delivery transaction. Its designed in the "unix philosophy" and has good performance - great but Postfix