Re: [mailop] Cisco PIX Mailguard Oddity

> From: Steve Atkins > > Yes they can, but I've seen PIXes inexplicably get into a state where they > reject everything. > Just to pile on with all the other email experts, smtp_f*ckup is the worst "feature" ever implemented on a "security" device. Not only does it kill your ability to

Re: [mailop] What in the name of all that is evil is this new spam technique?

On 5/9/16 11:20 AM, Anne Mitchell wrote: Without commenting on what I think of the 'service' personally, I know the founders over at bounce.io, and with permission, I'd like to send this over to them - while the service may be ripe for abuse, the people involved are pretty white hat in their

Re: [mailop] What in the name of all that is evil is this new spam technique?

Yep, I don't disagree with *anything* you've said. But examples from 'not me' are likely to be more compelling than 'just me telling them why it's a bad idea'. Anne > On 5/9/16 11:20 AM, Anne Mitchell wrote: >> >> Without commenting on what I think of the 'service' personally, I know the

Re: [mailop] What in the name of all that is evil is this new spam technique?

On 9/5/2016 22:20, Jay Hennigan wrote: Their FAQ at betterbounces.net (bounce.io redirects there) claims that they're just trying to send more human-readable bounce messages but need advertising to pay for it. They also claim that one can opt out of the advertisements but only on a

Re: [mailop] What in the name of all that is evil is this new spam technique?

> On May 9, 2016, at 11:20 AM, Anne Mitchell wrote: > > > > > >> Weird. I've been involved with mail servers for 15 years, and it's the >> first time I've run in to that. > > Without commenting on what I think of the 'service' personally, I know the > founders over

Re: [mailop] What in the name of all that is evil is this new spam technique?

I'm actually surprised it's taken this long for them to appear on the radar - they've been around since late 2014, which leads me to wonder if there's been a change in something there. Anne > On 9/5/2016 22:20, Jay Hennigan wrote: >> >> Their FAQ at betterbounces.net (bounce.io redirects

Re: [mailop] What in the name of all that is evil is this new spam technique?

It came in to my GMail account, and I figured I'd mark it as spam. It's gone now. Sorry. -A On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Anne Mitchell wrote: > > > > > > Weird. I've been involved with mail servers for 15 years, and it's the > first time I've run in to that. > >

Re: [mailop] What in the name of all that is evil is this new spam technique?

> Which actor do you see potentially abusing the service, w.r.t. to it being > ripe for abuse? > > I only see the sending domain, the recipients domain and bounce.io involved > in the transaction. Well, clearly not the recipient's domain ;-) Anne

Re: [mailop] What in the name of all that is evil is this new spam technique?

> It came in to my GMail account, and I figured I'd mark it as spam. It's gone > now. Sorry. Ok if I forward over the image, with your info obscured? Anne ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org

Re: [mailop] What in the name of all that is evil is this new spam technique?

Go ahead. Nothing needs to be obscured. Thanks, -A On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Anne Mitchell wrote: > > > It came in to my GMail account, and I figured I'd mark it as spam. It's > gone now. Sorry. > > Ok if I forward over the image, with your info obscured? > >