Re: [mailop] spamhaus blocking Linode IPv6 (2a01: 7e01)

2021-11-25 Thread Mary via mailop
Linode blocks port 25 by default and requires manual intervention and a "discussion" with support before they unblock it. Unlike other providers like OVH and hetzner... On 25 Nov 2021 23:18:51 -0500 John Levine via mailop wrote: > It appears that Jarland Donnell via mailop said: > >In all

Re: [mailop] spamhaus blocking Linode IPv6 (2a01:7e01)

2021-11-25 Thread Jarland Donnell via mailop
Blacklists tend to target a whole /64 at once for IPv6 and this is standard behavior. I just looked at my two Linode VMs and both have one IPv6 from the same /64. It's possible that Linode is assigning a /64 per customer and that no one else is in the same /64 as you. This is a reasonable

Re: [mailop] spamhaus blocking Linode IPv6 (2a01:7e01)

2021-11-25 Thread Atro Tossavainen via mailop
On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 12:33:54PM +0200, Mary via mailop wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I noticed today that spamhaus.org is blocking large net blocks of IPv6 > (2a01:7e01) owned by Linode. Pretty much all my clients hosted at Linode are > being blocked en mass (for IPv6 only).

[mailop] spamhaus blocking Linode IPv6 (2a01:7e01)

2021-11-25 Thread Mary via mailop
Hello everyone, I noticed today that spamhaus.org is blocking large net blocks of IPv6 (2a01:7e01) owned by Linode. Pretty much all my clients hosted at Linode are being blocked en mass (for IPv6 only). Is there a way to inform spamhaus about this rather aggressive blocking and get things

Re: [mailop] spamhaus blocking Linode IPv6 (2a01:7e01)

2021-11-25 Thread Mary via mailop
I first noticed that all outgoing emails that are using IPv6 addresses, are being rejected by anyone using zen.spamhaus.org I then tried a bunch of my addresses and they all tested as listed in https://check.spamhaus.org/ Please see attached screenshot. On Thu, 25 Nov 2021 12:52:18 +0200

Re: [mailop] spamhaus blocking Linode IPv6 (2a01:7e01)

2021-11-25 Thread Graeme Fowler via mailop
On 25 Nov 2021, at 10:33, Mary via mailop wrote: > I noticed today that spamhaus.org is blocking large net blocks of IPv6 > (2a01:7e01) owned by Linode. Pretty much all my clients hosted at Linode are > being blocked en mass (for IPv6 only). > > Is there a way to inform spamhaus about this

Re: [mailop] spamhaus blocking Linode IPv6 (2a01:7e01)

2021-11-25 Thread Mary via mailop
I think Linode does not follow the /64 rule and assigns thousands of customers within the 2a01:7e01::/64 block. They user a bunch of blocks, depending on their data centre. I think by default each client is assigned a single /128 IPv6 address per server. :( On Thu, 25 Nov 2021 05:57:03

Re: [mailop] spamhaus blocking Linode IPv6 (2a01:7e01)

2021-11-25 Thread Riccardo Alfieri via mailop
Hi Mary, please see: https://www.linode.com/community/questions/266/ipv6-64-blocks-on-linode Linode can assign you a /64 that will probably solve your problems. On 25/11/21 11:33, Mary via mailop wrote: Hello everyone, I noticed today that spamhaus.org is blocking large net blocks of IPv6

Re: [mailop] spamhaus blocking Linode IPv6 (2a01:7e01)

2021-11-25 Thread Mary via mailop
But that is not a real solution is it? Maybe linode and spamhaus can come up with a better solution between them? On Thu, 25 Nov 2021 13:48:27 + Riccardo Alfieri via mailop wrote: > Hi Mary, > > please see: > https://www.linode.com/community/questions/266/ipv6-64-blocks-on-linode >

Re: [mailop] spamhaus blocking Linode IPv6 (2a01:7e01)

2021-11-25 Thread Riccardo Alfieri via mailop
Well, RIPE itself (https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-690) states that it's a best practice to assign to an end user no less than a /64 On 25/11/21 15:22, Mary via mailop wrote: But that is not a real solution is it? Maybe linode and spamhaus can come up with a better solution

Re: [mailop] spamhaus blocking Linode IPv6 (2a01:7e01)

2021-11-25 Thread Atro Tossavainen via mailop
On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 04:22:05PM +0200, Mary via mailop wrote: > > But that is not a real solution is it? It is because it's the right thing to do in the first place. > Maybe linode and spamhaus can come up with a better solution between them? I would not expect any changes on the policy of

Re: [mailop] spamhaus blocking Linode IPv6 (2a01:7e01)

2021-11-25 Thread Atro Tossavainen via mailop
> Sure. Linode could decide to stop operating a public nuisance and > police their sewer more effectively. Historically, Spamhaus has a > long record of delisting network operators who reform their > abuse-handling. This isn't even about that. This is only about Linode cramming more than one

Re: [mailop] spamhaus blocking Linode IPv6 (2a01:7e01)

2021-11-25 Thread Bjoern Franke via mailop
Hi, I think Linode does not follow the /64 rule and assigns thousands of customers within the 2a01:7e01::/64 block. They user a bunch of blocks, depending on their data centre. I think by default each client is assigned a single /128 IPv6 address per server. See

Re: [mailop] spamhaus blocking Linode IPv6 (2a01:7e01)

2021-11-25 Thread Bill Cole via mailop
On 2021-11-25 at 09:22:05 UTC-0500 (Thu, 25 Nov 2021 16:22:05 +0200) Mary via mailop is rumored to have said: But that is not a real solution is it? Maybe linode and spamhaus can come up with a better solution between them? Sure. Linode could decide to stop operating a public nuisance and

Re: [mailop] spamhaus blocking Linode IPv6 (2a01:7e01)

2021-11-25 Thread Atro Tossavainen via mailop
On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 03:07:02PM +0200, Mary via mailop wrote: > > I think Linode does not follow the /64 rule and assigns thousands of > customers within the 2a01:7e01::/64 block. They user a bunch of blocks, > depending on their data centre. > > I think by default each client is assigned a

Re: [mailop] spamhaus blocking Linode IPv6 (2a01:7e01)

2021-11-25 Thread Tim Bray via mailop
On 25/11/2021 14:22, Mary via mailop wrote: But that is not a real solution is it? Maybe linode and spamhaus can come up with a better solution between them? Why is it not a real solution? It's a bigger problem than Linode and Spamhaus. (I refer to Linode in my writings, but I don't

Re: [mailop] spamhaus blocking Linode IPv6 (2a01:7e01)

2021-11-25 Thread Jay Hennigan via mailop
On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 03:07:02PM +0200, Mary via mailop wrote:>> I think Linode does not follow the /64 rule and assigns thousands of customers within the 2a01:7e01::/64 block. They user a bunch of blocks, depending on their data centre.>> I think by default each client is assigned a single

Re: [mailop] spamhaus blocking Linode IPv6 (2a01:7e01)

2021-11-25 Thread Jay Hennigan via mailop
On 11/25/21 06:22, Mary via mailop wrote: But that is not a real solution is it? Maybe linode and spamhaus can come up with a better solution between them? It's not a Spamhaus problem. Linode is beyond stupid. Linode has over four billion /64s. The rest of the Internet treats a /64 as a

Re: [mailop] spamhaus blocking Linode IPv6 (2a01:7e01)

2021-11-25 Thread John Gateley via mailop
On 11/25/21 12:18 PM, Jay Hennigan via mailop wrote: It's not a Spamhaus problem. Linode is beyond stupid. Linode has over four billion /64s. The rest of the Internet treats a /64 as a single user or subnet. Linode should be allocating each customer subnet a /64 as a minimum. If you're a

Re: [mailop] spamhaus blocking Linode IPv6 (2a01:7e01)

2021-11-25 Thread Jarland Donnell via mailop
In all fairness, some of these systems may have been deployed before we were all really certain that a /64 per customer was going to be an accepted standard. You know how RFCs go, they're the law of the land except when they're not, which is actually pretty often. By now most should have

Re: [mailop] spamhaus blocking Linode IPv6 (2a01:7e01)

2021-11-25 Thread Steve Freegard via mailop
One thing that I think we can do to "help" in this instance is actually list which addresses traffic has been seen from, rather than just reporting the /64 being listed. For this range - I'm only seeing 3 IPv6 addresses hitting traps 2a01:7e01::f03c:92ff:fed4:25b5  "YourBud " - abuseable web

Re: [mailop] spamhaus blocking Linode IPv6 (2a01:7e01)

2021-11-25 Thread Noel Butler via mailop
Fair enough too, the amount of crap coming from linode in recent weeks exceeds the levels from gmail and outlook combined, both ipv4 and 6 usually they send about the same as the others, not more than both of them together. On 25/11/2021 21:15, Mary via mailop wrote: I first noticed that

Re: [mailop] spamhaus blocking Linode IPv6 (2a01: 7e01)

2021-11-25 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that Jarland Donnell via mailop said: >In all fairness, some of these systems may have been deployed before we >were all really certain that a /64 per customer was going to be an >accepted standard. A /64 per customer has always been the plan. There is no good reason to assign