On 2020-12-18 at 15:58 +0100, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote:
> > SendGrid. They have a webpage that says "We continue to retry
> > messages for up to 72 hours," but they (sometimes?) don't.
>
> They do for most customers, but for some they don't.
>
> I remember this issue with password change
In article <20201219223035.ga4...@rafa.eu.org> you write:
>Dnia 19.12.2020 o godz. 16:51:56 John Levine via mailop pisze:
>> Pursuant to our unconditional satisfaction guarantee, please find
>> enclosed a check for 200% of the amount you have paid Gmail to handle
>> your mail.
>
>Please note that
For a couple of years, the Usenet link to/from Australia were magtape
exchanges on a routine NASA flight out of, if I remember right, NASA
Ames. It was piggybacked on the shipment of data to/from joint
NASA-Australia projects. I used to correspond occasionally with the guy
involved in doing
Dnia 19.12.2020 o godz. 15:52:21 Bob Proulx via mailop pisze:
> Plus the SMTP protocol has never tried to be an end user visible
> protocol. Which, if implemented over Avian Carriers, might be
> unappealing to the consumer. Even if the cost is only bird seed. The
> diagrams in RFC 2549 I find
Sam Tuke via mailop wrote:
> With Gmail's self filtering folders, for many smaller hosts the
> chances of a message which gets a 250 response code being "received"
> (reach the eyeballs of the intended recipient) is lower than not. So
> 250 says more about Gmail internals (e.g. the message wasn't
Dnia 19.12.2020 o godz. 16:51:56 John Levine via mailop pisze:
> Pursuant to our unconditional satisfaction guarantee, please find
> enclosed a check for 200% of the amount you have paid Gmail to handle
> your mail.
Please note that not only "Gmail" as understood by the free mail service did
not
On 2020-12-19 16:43, John Levine via mailop wrote:
In article <12329a9a-11a7-eda4-c88a-3dc352aea...@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net>
you write:
On 12/18/20 12:29 PM, John Levine via mailop wrote:
As I recall some sites were getting stuck on the nolist host for
every message.
Odd.
Perhaps it
In article <0ea1d827-98d8-761d-cac4-4be972126...@lightmeter.io> you write:
>That's nice to know, but the fact is that messages accepted by Gmail sometimes
>disappear without a trace. No
>doubt that the systems involved on your side are massive and complex, but that
>shouldn't be our problem as
In article <142c9278-dfe9-4dfc-70ab-50dc27264...@linkedin.com> you write:
>
>It may not be as common, but I don't see a reason to remove the option.
Oh, I agree, it's not going away and it usually doesn't hurt (much).
In the past I have done surveys of mail servers to see what features they
In article <12329a9a-11a7-eda4-c88a-3dc352aea...@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net>
you write:
>
>On 12/18/20 12:29 PM, John Levine via mailop wrote:
>> As I recall some sites were getting stuck on the nolist host for
>> every message.
>
>Odd.
>
>Perhaps it has something to do with the type of
On 12/19/20 9:27 AM, Sam Tuke via mailop wrote:
> That's nice to know, but the fact is that messages accepted by Gmail
> sometimes disappear without a trace.
In my experience of investigating a few of these in detail, this is not
actually the case. Instead, what happens is that the Gmail
On 18/12/2020 23:00, Brandon Long wrote:
> So, returning 250 OK when delivering a message to spam is bad form
> now? Or a 4xx response to potential spam that you're not quite sure
> about?
With Gmail's self filtering folders, for many smaller hosts the chances of a
message which gets a 250
On 2020-12-15 18:04, Chris Wedgwood via mailop wrote:
things break, it happens...
but why 5xx (vs 4xx) in this case?
this means means emails are being lost, some of won't/can't be resent
and recovered
with 4xx most of them would be delivered once things come right
the confidence in a
So, returning 250 OK when delivering a message to spam is bad form now? Or
a 4xx response to potential spam that you're not quite sure about?
Also, there is no provision in our spam system for dropping mail, it's
reject, deliver or bounce...
I guess workspace does add administrator actions
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