Re: [mailop] Partial issues forwarding mails to gmail.com

2022-11-24 Thread Dave Anderson via mailop
And even when it's possible it's not always desirable. An organization I'm involved with has many @ email aliases which forward to the person(s) responsible for those functions. This is convenient for people who need to communicate with us since they don't have to hunt for the responsible

Re: [mailop] Partial issues forwarding mails to gmail.com

2022-11-24 Thread Philip Paeps via mailop
On 2022-11-25 07:28:03 (+0800), Michael Peddemors via mailop wrote: Of course, one thing not mentioned on this thread.. Simply stop allowing remote forwarding.. Every modern email client can check multiple email accounts. The day when remote forwarding was a necessity has now passed, and now

Re: [mailop] Partial issues forwarding mails to gmail.com

2022-11-24 Thread Michael Peddemors via mailop
Of course, one thing not mentioned on this thread.. Simply stop allowing remote forwarding.. Every modern email client can check multiple email accounts. The day when remote forwarding was a necessity has now passed, and now with things like SPF and other email tests, forwarding simply

Re: [mailop] Partial issues forwarding mails to gmail.com

2022-11-24 Thread Antoine Minoux via mailop
Hey Martin, Just my two cents from running a service dedicated to email forwarding; We've been getting a lot of help from the community recently, so I thought I'd contribute as well. We're often seeing this type of error, and I agree with what Jarland has said previously. Gmail only flags the

Re: [mailop] Partial issues forwarding mails to gmail.com

2022-11-24 Thread Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop
Am 24.11.22 um 17:20 schrieb Martin Flygenring via mailop: ... [Google says] Our system has detected an unusual rate of unsolicited mail originating from your IP address. ... Now, the interesting part is that for almost 98% of the mails currently in queue, Google is the original sender of the

Re: [mailop] Partial issues forwarding mails to gmail.com

2022-11-24 Thread Jarland Donnell via mailop
I have noticed that one of the most consistently rejected emails when forwarded to Gmail, is an email from Google. I just rotate outbound IPs on that message using ZoneMTA and it'll get through. Waiting for an IP to clear a rate limit with Gmail just seems like bad business at this point. On

[mailop] Partial issues forwarding mails to gmail.com

2022-11-24 Thread Martin Flygenring via mailop
Hello all For the past few weeks, we've noticed increasing queues on our MX-servers when forwarding some emails to our users alternate addresses, if that forwarding address is a gmail.com address. Most of the mails go through without issues, but some end up getting deferred with the error

Re: [mailop] Another interesting batch of suspicious activity on an IPXO network..

2022-11-24 Thread Jarland Donnell via mailop
When I first tested the IPXO network they required me to pay them a custom fee to exclude my services from their internal mail scanner. They would otherwise downgrade connections from SSL and intercept the SMTP traffic, then scan the contents of emails for spam. I can't imagine that still

[mailop] Another interesting batch of suspicious activity on an IPXO network..

2022-11-24 Thread Michael Peddemors via mailop
I don't think all these companies are operating on this network.. Eg.. host -t TXT hostedexchange.co.il hostedexchange.co.il descriptive text "v=spf1 ip4:212.143.142.84 ip4:194.90.28.61 -all" Obvious attempts to hide activity using legitimate companies? # 84.32.92.4

Re: [mailop] SPF (and other email security protocols) Survey

2022-11-24 Thread G. Miliotis via mailop
On 2022-11-24 14:01, Tobias Fiebig via mailop wrote: And to circle back to on-topic: The result of that is what then pops up in /var/log/maillog. So it isn't about 'should VT change [something]'; It is more 'shouldn't society change the incentive structure and general setup around academia as

Re: [mailop] SPF (and other email security protocols) Survey

2022-11-24 Thread Tobias Fiebig via mailop
Hello Andrew > If VT PhD students don't have the experience needed in the topics they study, > then shouldn't VT change either the students or the topics ? As I said, this is not about specific instances, people, or VT in particular. It is more of an observation that while in 1988, you could go

Re: [mailop] SPF (and other email security protocols) Survey

2022-11-24 Thread Andrew C Aitchison via mailop
On Wed, 23 Nov 2022, Tobias Fiebig via mailop wrote: We can have an awful lot of discussions about this, and there is a lot going on; Besides the obvious 'is it good or not' and 'is this really science?', we essentially deal with 'science' with all its incentives (publish or perish); This means

Re: [mailop] Massive bounce report campaign

2022-11-24 Thread Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop
24. November 2022 08:48, "Cyril - ImprovMX via mailop" mailto:mailop@mailop.org?to=%22Cyril%20-%20ImprovMX%20via%20mailop%22%20)> schrieb: I'd love to be able to drop them, but the situation is made in a way that we can not do anything: That user configured their bounce domain to pass