Re: [mailop] Transparency is key... Here is a perfect example.. M3AAWG is coming.. time to take a st

2023-06-11 Thread Ángel via mailop
On 2023-05-30 at 15:13 -0700, Michael Peddemors wrote: > At least mailgun.us has transparent whois.. >(oops, careful, they might have forgotten to hide that one) .us tld does not allow the use of anonymous whois services. Still, it's possible that their registrar enabled the anonymous option

Re: [mailop] Transparency is key... Here is a perfect example.. M3AAWG is coming.. time to take a st

2023-05-31 Thread Michael Peddemors via mailop
Not here for a flame way on the topic... Just trying to feed the conversation.. examples that can be used or talked about at M3AAWG or amongst the community.. However, a couple of small 'opinion' pieces.. * I refuse to believe that there is nothing to do on this issue, and that the boat has

Re: [mailop] Transparency is key... Here is a perfect example.. M3AAWG is coming.. time to take a st

2023-05-31 Thread Laura Atkins via mailop
> On 31 May 2023, at 14:21, Mike Hillyer via mailop wrote: > >> I know that whois is a lost cause, and I still believe that methods for >> identifying the real controlling entities of domains would help quite a bit >> in reducing unwanted e-mail spam. > > I agree, but the reality of the

Re: [mailop] Transparency is key... Here is a perfect example.. M3AAWG is coming.. time to take a st

2023-05-31 Thread Mike Hillyer via mailop
> I know that whois is a lost cause, and I still believe that methods for > identifying the real controlling entities of domains would help quite a bit > in reducing unwanted e-mail spam. I agree, but the reality of the matter is that even if mailgun.co and mailgun.net had matching org

Re: [mailop] Transparency is key... Here is a perfect example.. M3AAWG is coming.. time to take a st

2023-05-31 Thread Thomas Mechtersheimer via mailop
On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 01:18:06AM +0200, Sebastian Nielsen via mailop wrote: > Hiding whois details doesn't mean you hiding your identity. Normally, this > type of privacy is also used when you want to hide the actual person that is > responsible for, lets say paying the domains. You don't

Re: [mailop] Transparency is key... Here is a perfect example.. M3AAWG is coming.. time to take a st

2023-05-30 Thread Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop
Am 31.05.23 um 01:18 schrieb Sebastian Nielsen via mailop: I don't agree with your stance. Hiding whois details doesn't mean you hiding your identity. Normally, this type of privacy is also used when you want to hide the actual person that is responsible for, lets say paying the domains.

Re: [mailop] Transparency is key... Here is a perfect example.. M3AAWG is coming.. time to take a st

2023-05-30 Thread Sebastian Nielsen via mailop
I don't agree with your stance. Hiding whois details doesn't mean you hiding your identity. Normally, this type of privacy is also used when you want to hide the actual person that is responsible for, lets say paying the domains. Because, you don't want people calling these phones, about spam,