Re: [mailop] Microsoft/Linode issue resolved

2022-02-15 Thread Luke Thompson via mailop
Thanks for your updates, John. We've had issues and seen quirks with 
those processes over the years. Admittedly it's been more stable in 
recent times (for us).


Just a semi-unrelated update here - Linode has just announced that 
they've been acquired by Akamai for $900M USD.

https://www.akamai.com/newsroom/press-release/akamai-to-acquire-linode

It'll be curious to see how Linode evolves from here!

Cheers,

Luke Thompson
Operations Manager

The Network Crew Pty Ltd
https://thenetworkcrew.com.au

On 26/1/22 12:50 am, John Gateley via mailop wrote:



On 1/23/22 9:42 AM, John Gateley via mailop wrote:


3. After several tries, the Office365 mitigation process just stopped 
working. After the forward
I receive an email saying "we will respond in 24 hours". The first 
few times, this incuded
a link to the Office365 delisting process. But at some point, 
Microsoft stopped responding.
I would get the "we will respond" email, but never anything more. It 
was blamed on huge
traffic from Linode, but that wasn't the case (as it happened several 
times over many days

and I NEVER got a response).


Just to follow up, the responses are now coming in, 16 days after I 
did the original forward.


John
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Re: [mailop] Microsoft/Linode issue resolved

2022-01-25 Thread John Gateley via mailop



On 1/23/22 9:42 AM, John Gateley via mailop wrote:


3. After several tries, the Office365 mitigation process just stopped 
working. After the forward
I receive an email saying "we will respond in 24 hours". The first few 
times, this incuded
a link to the Office365 delisting process. But at some point, 
Microsoft stopped responding.
I would get the "we will respond" email, but never anything more. It 
was blamed on huge
traffic from Linode, but that wasn't the case (as it happened several 
times over many days

and I NEVER got a response).


Just to follow up, the responses are now coming in, 16 days after I did 
the original forward.


John
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[mailop] Microsoft/Linode issue resolved

2022-01-23 Thread John Gateley via mailop

Hi y'all,

I resolved my Microsoft blocking my Linode IPv4 address issue. I posted 
several times here as it

was happening, so this is a recap:

Microsoft's mitigation process is fragile and complex, perhaps 
intentionally.


1. It requests forwarding the bounce message. My mailer (standard 
Dovecot + Postfix) adds
a couple of attachments to the message. Microsoft will reject messages 
with attachments

and not do anything. So you must remove the attachments before forwarding.

2. Microsoft's mitigation process handles both Office365 issues and 
outlook.com etc issues.
They seem to make no distinction in the error messages. My bounces 
indicated it was an
Office365 issue, but I followed that process several times with no 
result. Finally, I filed
an outlook.com delisting ticket, and after some back and forth they 
delisted me.
I wish Microsoft had a better system for communicating WHICH platform is 
blocking and

the process for that platform.

3. After several tries, the Office365 mitigation process just stopped 
working. After the forward
I receive an email saying "we will respond in 24 hours". The first few 
times, this incuded
a link to the Office365 delisting process. But at some point, Microsoft 
stopped responding.
I would get the "we will respond" email, but never anything more. It was 
blamed on huge
traffic from Linode, but that wasn't the case (as it happened several 
times over many days

and I NEVER got a response).

I truly appreciate the help I received from this list, and it is 
fantastic that there are Microsoft,
Linode (and other companies) people here contributing. That made it 
easier for me to find the

solution.

Linode has a mediocre reputation (I think this is undeserved) for IP 
cleanliness. I contacted
Linode and they offered me an IP address known to be clean w/r/t 
Microsoft filtering.
Changing a mailer's IP address is a dramatic operation so I haven't yet 
decided to go through
with this. But they were professional, helpful, and I have been using 
them for 15+ years,

and probably close to 10 on my current IPv4 address.

The reason I think their reputation is undeserved: I asked for better 
hosters, and did receive
some recommendations. I checked these, calling one and speaking with 
Sales, and reading
the websites of the others. They had no special restrictions or filters 
regarding email, the
sales person I spoke to just said "we don't allow spammers". My guess is 
that they are cleaner
IP addresses mostly because they are smaller, and spammers don't flock 
to them.


Linode has been pretty good to me, and very responsive. There seems to 
be a pile-on attitude

regarding them as mail servers, and in my opinion it is undeserved.

Thanks to all who contributed and helped me!

John


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