Re: [mailop] What in the name of all that is evil is this new spam technique?

2016-05-13 Thread Anne Mitchell
> Apparently my search-fu was bad. I hadn't marked it as spam, but I lost it > in the Master In Pile. > > It's a rather long message, so I stuck it here: http://dpaste.com/2D7WMFK I've passed this on to them too...and they say, first of all, thank you and they really appreciate it you

Re: [mailop] What in the name of all that is evil is this new spam technique?

2016-05-12 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn
Apparently my search-fu was bad. I hadn't marked it as spam, but I lost it in the Master In Pile. It's a rather long message, so I stuck it here: http://dpaste.com/2D7WMFK -A On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Aaron C. de Bruyn wrote: > It came in to my GMail account, and

Re: [mailop] What in the name of all that is evil is this new spam technique?

2016-05-09 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn
Go ahead. Nothing needs to be obscured. Thanks, -A On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Anne Mitchell wrote: > > > It came in to my GMail account, and I figured I'd mark it as spam. It's > gone now. Sorry. > > Ok if I forward over the image, with your info obscured? > >

Re: [mailop] What in the name of all that is evil is this new spam technique?

2016-05-09 Thread Anne Mitchell
> It came in to my GMail account, and I figured I'd mark it as spam. It's gone > now. Sorry. Ok if I forward over the image, with your info obscured? Anne ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org

Re: [mailop] What in the name of all that is evil is this new spam technique?

2016-05-09 Thread Anne Mitchell
> Which actor do you see potentially abusing the service, w.r.t. to it being > ripe for abuse? > > I only see the sending domain, the recipients domain and bounce.io involved > in the transaction. Well, clearly not the recipient's domain ;-) Anne

Re: [mailop] What in the name of all that is evil is this new spam technique?

2016-05-09 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn
It came in to my GMail account, and I figured I'd mark it as spam. It's gone now. Sorry. -A On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Anne Mitchell wrote: > > > > > > Weird. I've been involved with mail servers for 15 years, and it's the > first time I've run in to that. > >

Re: [mailop] What in the name of all that is evil is this new spam technique?

2016-05-09 Thread Anne Mitchell
I'm actually surprised it's taken this long for them to appear on the radar - they've been around since late 2014, which leads me to wonder if there's been a change in something there. Anne > On 9/5/2016 22:20, Jay Hennigan wrote: >> >> Their FAQ at betterbounces.net (bounce.io redirects

Re: [mailop] What in the name of all that is evil is this new spam technique?

2016-05-09 Thread Steve Atkins
> On May 9, 2016, at 11:20 AM, Anne Mitchell wrote: > > > > > >> Weird. I've been involved with mail servers for 15 years, and it's the >> first time I've run in to that. > > Without commenting on what I think of the 'service' personally, I know the > founders over

Re: [mailop] What in the name of all that is evil is this new spam technique?

2016-05-09 Thread G. Miliotis
On 9/5/2016 22:20, Jay Hennigan wrote: Their FAQ at betterbounces.net (bounce.io redirects there) claims that they're just trying to send more human-readable bounce messages but need advertising to pay for it. They also claim that one can opt out of the advertisements but only on a

Re: [mailop] What in the name of all that is evil is this new spam technique?

2016-05-09 Thread Anne Mitchell
Yep, I don't disagree with *anything* you've said. But examples from 'not me' are likely to be more compelling than 'just me telling them why it's a bad idea'. Anne > On 5/9/16 11:20 AM, Anne Mitchell wrote: >> >> Without commenting on what I think of the 'service' personally, I know the

Re: [mailop] What in the name of all that is evil is this new spam technique?

2016-05-09 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 5/9/16 11:20 AM, Anne Mitchell wrote: Without commenting on what I think of the 'service' personally, I know the founders over at bounce.io, and with permission, I'd like to send this over to them - while the service may be ripe for abuse, the people involved are pretty white hat in their

Re: [mailop] What in the name of all that is evil is this new spam technique?

2016-05-06 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn
Weird. I've been involved with mail servers for 15 years, and it's the first time I've run in to that. Out of all the spam I've seen, this strikes me as the absolute sleaziest possibly way to go about it... /me makes preparations to nuke bounceio from orbit... Thanks, -A On Fri, May 6, 2016