>
> So ... never, ever post one's email, "Online" ...
> Does this include to an industry mailinglist, I wonder ... if membership
> is unvetted?
>
Obviously this is only relevant to my jurisdiction (New Zealand) but when
we created the Unsolicited Electronic Messaging Act we created different
> Hi Ken,
>
>
>
> awesome. Thats a bunch of helpful steps! Thanks a lot!
>
I'm a few years removed from directly administering a 'real' mail server
(directly, at least) but I have some observations about Ken's list:
>
> * Monitor abuse@ and make sure that this address a) exists for your
>
Aside: Clicking Reply-All in Microsoft Outlook only put Luis and Andy into the
To: box. I had to manually add mailop.
My view is that (generally), Operations that're so big as to receive many
reports a day, grossly under-resource their abuse-response capability and don't
particularly care
Michael,
I had a grump at Kogan / Dick Smith via email when I wound up on what I assume
is the same distribution list.
Speaking very firmly with them via Twitter initially, and then ultimately via
email with someone at Kogan, the spam seems to have stopped.
They alleged that someone submitted
On 26/01/2020 1:46 PM, Ángel via mailop wrote:
On 2020-01-24 at 11:16 -0800, Brandon Long via mailop wrote:
Anyways, the main reason I assume is design and space limitations as
well as the cognitive load of the UI.
Only showing it when it may be important increases the chance that
it's
>
>
> On 3 Feb 2020, at 14:04, Brandon Long via mailop wrote:
>
>> One of the main reasons I don't think we should use such long retries
>> is
>> that it violates user expectations. Users often treat email as nearly
>> instantaneous, because it normally is... so taking hours or days of
>>
> Dnia 22.01.2020 o godz. 23:31:13 John Levine via mailop pisze:
>> At some point I give up and hit the spam button.
>
> And thus you are training Google's AI to treat completely legit (only
> misdirected) messages as spam.
> Maybe one day these senders will find out that when they send another
>
I couldn't help but respond to this one...
> I'd say if it's even remotely gray mail, and not pure spam, go for the
> unsubscribe. On Gmail, we only provide a ui unsub link if the sender
> reputation is ok, for example, but arguably anything from a mainstream esp
> or company is fine to unsub
Yes, I assume that’s the root of how I got on those mailing lists – someone
deciding my email address was theirs.
But what’s the difference between that, and spam?
In my eyes it’s all unwanted email in my inbox. And it’s not once or twice.
It’s hundreds of times. Far from isolated cases.
... because other users of Facebook can give your email address to Facebook
in order to trigger an invite to join Facebook. And then you get reminders,
again and again.
It was eventually possible to 'unsubscribe' so that further invites would
not be generated, but this again runs against common
Works fine if you don't include the final period:
mail from: <>
250 ok
rcpt to:
250 ok
quit
221 mail04.cbsolt.net
So that's not it.
-Original Message-
From: mailop On Behalf Of ml+mailop--- via mailop
Sent: Sunday, 17 May 2020 10:31 pm
To: mailop@mailop.org
Subject: Re: [mailop]
I think the option of forcing TLS within a closed community is fine.
I think the option of forcing TLS on the wide-wide-internet is a
minefield for anyone who needs to communicate outside of a relatively
closed network... because Email supports fall-back-to-plain-text by
design, and it's hard to
> On 2020-05-28 at 13:35 -0600, Daniele Nicolodi via mailop wrote:
>> Does anyone know if there is any alternative to Outlook to access
>> Exchange Online mailboxes that require modern authentication?
>>
>> The IT department of the organization that is pushing thins says that
>> modern
My usual limit is 100MB and then I explain to my users that:
1) That's the _email size limit_ and not the size limit for an attachment to an
email
2) Email is inefficient when used for transferring files, thus overhead
3) Email is not intended to be a system for routinely moving large files
4)
Hi Xavier,
If your secondary MX will refuse email with a relaying error, it's not a
valid MX and should be removed from DNS...
This doesn't explain outlook.com favouring it but also, they've pulled
you up on poor configuration. :-)
No point in having an advertised MX that isn't ready for
Merging responses to two thread followups below:
On 6/10/2021 11:54 am, Neil Jenkins via mailop wrote:
On Wed, 6 Oct 2021, at 08:42, Mark Foster via mailop wrote:
I think people using forwarding _know_ that SPF breaks their stuff.
That is a very optimistic viewpoint about the baseline
On 29/12/2021 11:48 pm, Noel Butler via mailop wrote:
abuse reports filed with them... there's little evidence of this to an
end-user/victim...)
I for one look forward to Roundcube building in the option to have
the web IP included in headers,
Mark, you do realise, that information *is
On 29/12/2021 11:58 pm, Noel Butler via mailop wrote:
On 29/12/2021 14:15, Mark Foster via mailop wrote:
I use Roundcube myself and as a /user/ of the software, it hadn't
occurred to me that, much like Gmail, people who send emails using
this webmail tool have /full anonymity/ (except
I had to reach out to their technical support (for the outlook.com /
hotmail.com stuff) recently when email from my personal MTA disappeared
into a black hole for ~9 hours.
After about hour 1 or 2 I raised a support request (as a customer) and
over the course of an hour (online chat session)
On 10/07/2022 9:54 am, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote:
Dnia 9.07.2022 o godz. 13:53:46 Anne Mitchell via mailop pisze:
To those of you who aren't already aware of it, Google has asked the
Federal Election Commission for an opinion about Google's 'pilot project'
to allow political candidates
On 17/06/2022 3:46 pm, Noel Butler via mailop wrote:
On 17/06/2022 05:55, Brandon Long via mailop wrote:
You should get a welcome message when a user direct subscribes you to
a group that should have an unsubscribe link in it. The welcome
message part of the flow that the group manager can
On 14/09/2022 9:24 pm, Renaud Allard via mailop wrote:
On 9/14/22 10:57, Alessandro Vesely via mailop wrote:
* Stop blackholing.
That one is the absolute worst of the worst of the worst. Blackholing
is something that _MUST NOT_ be done, ever, for whatever reason. There
is never and
Some reading that might be useful.
https://github.com/vshymanskyy/StandWithUkraine/issues/135
https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/27/7zip_compression_tool/
https://pcper.com/2022/06/boycott-7-zip-because-its-not-on-github-seriously/
My impression is that 7-Zip is way, way down the severity
Per https://msrc.microsoft.com/report/abuse it appears they would like
you to fill in a web form, in order to "report suspected cyberattacks or
abuse originating from Microsoft Online Services, such as Microsoft
Azure, Bing, OneDrive, and Office 365."
It does cite ab...@microsoft.com as a
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