Hans Zimmerman said: of course nobody is going to feedback the last
one (about pronunciation).
Well first, Hans, I found your reply most interesting and useful and I
was intending to reply (that's what they all say!). Much of what you
write, though, I fully accept and would not, in any case, be
Let me return to where I started this thread from. It is nearly 50
years since my last Latin lesson and I cannot say I enjoyed Virgil, or
his language, very much in those distant schooldays. However, my
interest has been rejuvenated and, 'having a little Latin' I am now
enjoying some quality
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Thank you, Philip. I regretted not mentioning inscriptions the moment after I
punched the send button. But I actually did not know about the Gallus and
contemporary papyri. I have looked at
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I am struck by another humbling piece of ignorance in a field I am meant to
know
about. Do we have any Latin papyri from the Piso/Philodemus library at
Herculaneum? Or is it all like
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 00:05:57 +0100
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Emmanuel Plantade's reply is extremely interesting, and I will enjoy trying
out
the new theory. I suspect that if it is correct it will end up by saying
something similar to, but perhaps
The Romans did not even write single words;
they wrote in continuous breath-group units (separated by punctuation
reflecting the importance of the pause) that Fraenkel and I both happen to
call
cola.
A small correction: if 'Romans' refers to Roman writers in the Augustan Age
and before, then it
A brief word of thanks to Robert Dyer and Emmanuel Plantade for taking the
trouble to spell out in such careful detail their thoughts on the
pronunciation of Virgil's hexameters. I won't attempt to comment on either
post, for the question is altogether beyond me (and indeed even EP calls
himself a
-f
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Many thanks for these interesting and helpful comments. My own
favourite from Shakespeare is Much as the waves march towards the
pebbled shore where the shooshing sound runs
Perhaps we should continue this debate privately, or over lunch in Paris,
if you live here.
Dear MM. Plantade and Dyer
By all means have your discussion over lunch in Paris, but please don't
withdraw your e-mail exchanges on this subject from mantovano. This is
fascinating! No doubt cette
I do agree with Simon - please don't withdraw to a café in Paris. As
someone who is not professionally involved in the Classics, but simply
(having a little Latin) wants to try and enjoy them as straightforward
reader it is fascinating to hear the complexities that might be
revealed as one
Many thanks for these interesting and helpful comments. My own
favourite from Shakespeare is Much as the waves march towards the
pebbled shore where the shooshing sound runs in a wonderful
counterpoint with the stresses of the pentameter.
What you have described also reminds me of polyrhythmic
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