Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: RE : Re: LibOCon.com domain -- proposal

2011-05-25 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi Marc,

Marc Paré wrote on 2011-05-24 19.39:


I have all 4 that you listed. Should I input the DNS? I can't seem to
find my notes of DNS's from the last time I pointed a site to TDF.


I guess the best would be if we only took .com .net and .org - for .ca 
we need a local address, so TDF cannot take it legally, and for a global 
conference, we do not need it. However, feel free to host and redirect 
it directly.


For the .com .net and .org, can you enter the following DNS servers?

ns1.first-ns.de
robotns2.second-ns.de
robotns3.second-ns.com

Then the domains will be in the TDF infrastructure.


Re: local residential address. Feel free to use my address if you wish
for any .ca domains. I have a few online businesses it could be listed
under, my main one is parEntreprise.com


Thanks for the offer, that's nice! I guess we don't need the .ca domain, 
but feel free to keep it :)


Thanks again, Marc!

Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: PR translations

2011-05-25 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Takeshi Abe wrote on 2011-05-24 16.05:


What we agreed during the latest marketing conference call, is to build up a
network of marketeers, so we have a bit more structure inside, and some
responsibilities defined. On some mailing lists I see a lack of activity, and
I would like to work together with all of you in building up local communities,
especially in terms of marketing.

That sounds reasonable. Local markets are worth to explore.


I definitely think so. It is no secret that also within OOo, some 
marcons have been active, others haven't at all. That's why I want to 
build a network of active marketeers, so we can work effectively 
together. I'll follow-up on that hopefully soon.



Hm, I do *not* think that the same-time translation of the original announcement
is needed in general, because it means an extra step required for delivering
security fix.
But sooner translation can be desirable if, e.g., the message contains
description of procedures which users have to perform to avoid the 
vulnerability,
instead of the software upgrade.
(Anyway this may be rather off-topic in this list.)


Right now, we haven't issued any security bulletin so far, which is good 
news. :) What I would propose is that we see if translating them after 
we have published them is enough, or if we need an additional way of 
posting it in advance and under confidentiality to some marketeers to 
translate in time.


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[libreoffice-marketing] changes for this mailing list

2011-05-25 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello everyone,

as part of our membership process, we also would like to give 
@libreoffice.org e-mail forwarders to our approved members. Thanks to 
the folks from Heinlein Support in Berlin, who offered to take care of 
the mail forwarding and to program a web tool to enable users to 
configure the forwarding!


In order to be able to use two different mail servers -- one for mailing 
lists, and one for the mail forwarders -- we have to change the 
addresses of a few mailing lists.


In a nutshell: All lists currently known as @libreoffice.org will in the 
future be known as @global.libreoffice.org


In detail:

accessibil...@libreoffice.org = accessibil...@global.libreoffice.org

des...@libreoffice.org = des...@global.libreoffice.org

documentat...@libreoffice.org = documentat...@global.libreoffice.org

l...@libreoffice.org = l...@global.libreoffice.org

marketing@libreoffice.org = market...@global.libreoffice.org

proje...@libreoffice.org = proje...@global.libreoffice.org

us...@libreoffice.org = us...@global.libreoffice.org

webs...@libreoffice.org = webs...@global.libreoffice.org

You do *not* have to un- or resubscribe from any lists, as the list of 
all recipients will be automatically transferred to the new addresses. 
The subject prefix, like [libreoffice-website], will also stay the 
*same*. What *will* change is the address you have to send e-mails to, 
and the headers like List-Post and List-ID. So, in case you filter your 
e-mails based on the headers, you *do* need to act. This is most likely 
the case if you use a local mail client like Thunderbird. Webmail 
services like Google Mail usually do *not* make use of these headers.


The change will be effective during the day of

Thursday, June 9th

I will send a follow-up e-mail when the addresses have changed. 
Immediately after that, assume the old addresses will stop working. I 
will try to set them as aliases for a few days, but I cannot guarantee 
it will work out.


However, *no* e-mail will be lost -- in case there is no alias in place, 
you will receive a bounce message and can re-send the mail again.


Sorry for these inconveniences, but they will help us in providing 
e-mail forwarders for our members.


In case of questions, feel free to ask me directly, or on the website@ 
mailing list.


Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] changes for this mailing list

2011-05-25 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote on 2011-05-25 13.45:


are you saying that we now will need to change the sending address to this?


yes.


So if we are sending a new email to the marketing, or users, lists, we
will have to add the global. the the address?


Exactly.


But addresses like market...@us.libreoffice.org will by unchanged?


Correct. Any list that already has a subdomain, like 
@us.libreoffice.org, @de.libreoffice.org and so on will be *unchanged*. 
The same is true for lists at @documentfoundation.org - it solely 
affects @libreoffice.org



so we have to do the changeover that day, and not before or after that
date?


Exactly. Not before that day. Chances are, I keep an alias for a while, 
but in case that's technically not possible, you will receive a bounce 
on the old address, as soon as the change is effective.


Florian

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[libreoffice-marketing] need to redue the Extensions page on libreplanet.org/wiki

2011-05-25 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


With Oracle's dropping OOo, the links for the Extensions at

http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:OpenOfficeExtensions/List

seem not to work most times.

I went directly to Oracle's OOo page[s] for Extensions and Templates and 
have the time I get


Problem loading page - The connection to the server was reset while the 
page was loading.


server error, or some other saying the same thing.  OOo seem to no 
longer to be a place to link to for extension or template files.  I 
wonder how long it will be before the site will be completely down, 
instead of not working half the time.


It may be time for people at TDF and the marketing groups to start their 
own list of these files, instead of having links to Oracle's site that 
has all these page loading issues.  It does not look well for us to tell 
our users to go to a site where they will have problems downloading the 
.oxt files.  Time to take the incentive and get our own page[s] for all 
the add-ons that we thing our users might need or use.  I know that some 
of these extensions are now bundled with the installs, but we need to go 
farther than that.


I have many, many, of these add-ons [.oxt file] on my computer and the 
NA DVD project has some of these on our testing site, and the DVD itself.


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] need to redue the Extensions page on libreplanet.org/wiki

2011-05-25 Thread Volker Merschmann
Hi Timothy,

2011/5/25 webmaster for Kracked Press Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com:

 With Oracle's dropping OOo, the links for the Extensions at

 http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:OpenOfficeExtensions/List

 seem not to work most times.

I have seen some complaints about this recently and wrote to the
website-contact for extensions.openoffice.org

The site is hosted at osusl.org , should be independent from the
struggle with Oracle.


Bye

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] need to redue the Extensions page on libreplanet.org/wiki

2011-05-25 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 05/25/2011 11:02 AM, Volker Merschmann wrote:

Hi Timothy,

2011/5/25 webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com:

With Oracle's dropping OOo, the links for the Extensions at

http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:OpenOfficeExtensions/List

seem not to work most times.


I have seen some complaints about this recently and wrote to the
website-contact for extensions.openoffice.org

The site is hosted at osusl.org , should be independent from the
struggle with Oracle.


Bye

Volker
Yes, but their links go to the Oracle site, so they are dependent on 
Oracle's OOo pages.




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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] need to redue the Extensions page on libreplanet.org/wiki

2011-05-25 Thread Andrea Pescetti
webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
 With Oracle's dropping OOo, the links for the Extensions at
 http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:OpenOfficeExtensions/List
 seem not to work most times.

I don't know how many times people had to write it already, and Volker
just tried to explain it again, but... despite what most people seem to
think, http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/ is NOT hosted by
Oracle but by osuosl.org; Thorsten Bosbach sent an update yesterday,
please see
http://openoffice.org/projects/extensions/lists/websites/archive/2011-05/message/6
and the OSUOSL service ticket id is #18367 (but I actually don't know if
tickets are exposed through a web interface).

Regards,
  Andrea.


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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: RE : Re: LibOCon.com domain -- proposal

2011-05-25 Thread Marc Paré

Hi Florian

Done. I've set the .ca to redirect to libocon.com. Should not take long 
to propagate. Let me know if there any problems.


Cheers

Marc

Le 2011-05-25 03:52, Florian Effenberger a écrit :

Hi Marc,

Marc Paré wrote on 2011-05-24 19.39:


I have all 4 that you listed. Should I input the DNS? I can't seem to
find my notes of DNS's from the last time I pointed a site to TDF.


I guess the best would be if we only took .com .net and .org - for .ca
we need a local address, so TDF cannot take it legally, and for a global
conference, we do not need it. However, feel free to host and redirect
it directly.

For the .com .net and .org, can you enter the following DNS servers?

ns1.first-ns.de
robotns2.second-ns.de
robotns3.second-ns.com

Then the domains will be in the TDF infrastructure.


Re: local residential address. Feel free to use my address if you wish
for any .ca domains. I have a few online businesses it could be listed
under, my main one is parEntreprise.com


Thanks for the offer, that's nice! I guess we don't need the .ca domain,
but feel free to keep it :)

Thanks again, Marc!

Florian





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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: need to redue the Extensions page on libreplanet.org/wiki

2011-05-25 Thread Marc Paré

Hi Tim et al

Le 2011-05-25 11:21, Andrea Pescetti a écrit :

webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:

With Oracle's dropping OOo, the links for the Extensions at
http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:OpenOfficeExtensions/List
seem not to work most times.


I don't know how many times people had to write it already, and Volker
just tried to explain it again, but... despite what most people seem to
think, http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/ is NOT hosted by
Oracle but by osuosl.org; Thorsten Bosbach sent an update yesterday,
please see
http://openoffice.org/projects/extensions/lists/websites/archive/2011-05/message/6
and the OSUOSL service ticket id is #18367 (but I actually don't know if
tickets are exposed through a web interface).

Regards,
   Andrea.




I have to say, that the extensions site have been a little erratic ever 
since the move to the new Drupal website. It is just going through some 
growing pains. I'm sure it will work fine and be more dependable in time.


Cheers

Marc


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[libreoffice-marketing] Re: need to redue the Extensions page on libreplanet.org/wiki

2011-05-25 Thread Marc Paré

Hi Tim

Le 2011-05-25 11:50, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions a écrit :


So even if Oracle drops all support for OOo, this site will still be up?
Oracle has ended OOo support and development, according to the news on
the lists and such. So I wonder what will happen to the OOo domain since
Oracle owns that name as a trademark. Who will be paying for the
domains name and such if Oracle ends everything involved with that
name and product line?

That is some of my concern.

I think TDF should think about creating their own list of Extensions and
Templates that is hosted and stored on a site that TDF controls, SO we
do not need to have LO users go to a OOo site.



There are people working on this but it takes time and a lot of energy 
to get them right. There is a test site for extensions being worked on 
by Andreas[1] and I had been involved in trying to migrate the templates 
to the TDF/LibreOffice site. I am hoping we could adapt the test site 
for template submissions as well. But these need more development and 
testing and, ... time.


Cheers

Marc


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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] changes for this mailing list

2011-05-25 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Tom Davies wrote on 2011-05-25 19.07:

At a guess using Reply to emails sent from the list will send to the right
place unless you carefully time it exactly wrong;)


yes and no. :) For new mails after the 9th, yes. For old mails, there 
will still be the old reply-to address, so that might bounce later on.


Florian

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