Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-28 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 11/24/2010 10:57 PM, Christoph Noack wrote: The web site is not intended to please the people who belong to the community, but to attract new people (new community members, and new software users) and to communicate with stakeholders (individuals and companies/organizations interested in

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-24 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi Italo, I feel a need to second your statements ;-) Am Sonntag, den 21.11.2010, 12:02 +0100 schrieb Italo Vignoli: We cannot decide where people will navigate, and which information they will access from which web site. Of course, we will cross reference the two web sites, but I think that

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-22 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Sun, 2010-11-21 at 16:29 -0500, Marc Paré wrote: Personally I think that this type of organisation is a bit too late unless everyone is on board and most of OOo members are used to working under the common understanding of Marketing and Design understanding. You mentioned philosophical

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-22 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Sun, 2010-11-21 at 16:29 -0500, Marc Paré wrote: Personally I think that this type of organisation is a bit too late unless everyone is on board and most of OOo members are used to working under the common understanding of Marketing and Design understanding. You mentioned philosophical

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-22 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Mon, 2010-11-22 at 01:28 +0100, Bernhard Dippold wrote: I think they cover quite clearly what they want to say, so I'd keep them. If they would, there would be no question whether design should sit below marketing or not. There would be no questions if the logo or a brochure belongs to

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-21 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 11/20/2010 10:56 PM, Marc Paré wrote: This is what the Silverstripe and Drupal sites are all about. A one stop shop place where everything is available under one roof but also where all is built according to permissions to users as to what levels of the website they may work on or see.

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-21 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Sun, 2010-11-21 at 03:50 -0500, Marc Paré wrote: We have been gently reminded that marketing ideas should reside on the Marekting/ideas wiki pages. For the sake of consistency, could you add your idea to the http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Ideas page? Sure, but shouldn't

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-21 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 11/20/2010 11:49 PM, drew wrote: Your speaking as if there is only one view of the web site, there is not when under the control of a CMS system. There is a view that is published, official in other words Please remember that I behave like a user (and sometimes like a journalist) and not

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-21 Thread Michael Wheatland
OK, Sorry this has taken a little while, but I have been busy with paid work over the last week more than normal. I have created a workflow summary from the information gathered from this thread. In addition to this we can build a 'exhibition system' which would allow people outside of the design

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-21 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi Marc, all, it's hard to follow general decisions down in threads on Drupal. Marc Paré schrieb: [...] Now that we essentially have 2 groups: [Marketing] and [Design], do we want an ideas section in both? Or would we rather have on ideas section where we can see the whole range of ideas?

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-21 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi Michael, * Michael Wheatland schrieb: [...] I have created a workflow summary from the information gathered from this thread. In addition to this we can build a 'exhibition system' which would allow people outside of the design team to see examples of projects that the design team have

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-21 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Sun, 2010-11-21 at 20:49 +0930, Michael Wheatland wrote: In addition to this we can build a 'exhibition system' which would allow people outside of the design team to see examples of projects that the design team have completed, but that is the next step, we need to build the groundwork

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-21 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Sun, 2010-11-21 at 06:13 -0500, Marc Paré wrote: I propose that we keep the ideas section, but that we have two internal sections: one section for design related ideas and another with marketing-related ideas. This will keep it simple and both teams will be aware of what project have

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-21 Thread Christoph Noack
Hi all, Sorry if this might feel like an empty answer - but since I am travelling at the moment, I would like to avoid lengthly mails written on tiny keyboards. So just a: I do have some thoughts how some topic structuring might work. Both for the Design team stuff and the tooling like the

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-21 Thread Italo Vignoli
Michael Wheatland wrote: It can be hard at times to trust another group with something you are dependant on, but I assure you that the system will be very functional and easy to use for non-technical people. This is not a problem for me. I am used trust others as I do not have a technical

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-21 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi Marc, Thorsten, * Marc Paré schrieb: Le 2010-11-21 11:23, Thorsten Wilms a écrit : [...] Design vs Marketing, yes. If you apply some of the broader definitions, you can both conclude that Design touches everything and also that Marketing touches everything. Originally marketing may have

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-20 Thread drew
On Sat, 2010-11-20 at 20:30 +0100, Italo Vignoli wrote: * Workflows / Procedures: work in progress Again, work in progress should be on the wiki. The web site cannot contain work in progress, as it should be the basic source of information about TDF and LibreOffice, and people are

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-20 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 11/20/2010 09:04 PM, drew wrote: So of course the wiki is a tool that is going be used, but the process of design, as is ongoing here, and then implementation via a CMS, such as Drupal or Silverstripe for that matter, is precisely a mechanism for delivery of a system that performs in the way

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-20 Thread Italo Vignoli
On 11/20/2010 08:46 PM, Marc Paré wrote: Have you ever had an artwork contributor send a photoshop file for the team to look at? If so, the Drupal site Team Devs will test the site to make sure that there are no hiccups if this is ever done. The list is not to support any of the files formats

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-20 Thread drew
On Sat, 2010-11-20 at 22:20 +0100, Italo Vignoli wrote: I do not mind what happens before the publication on the web site Right - and that is the key descriptor, publication. Your speaking as if there is only one view of the web site, there is not when under the control of a CMS system. There

Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [Design] Design team needs and Drupal site development

2010-11-20 Thread Michael Wheatland
I found it very hard to follow this conversation. Can we take a step back. The marketing list should not be the place for discussing website infrastructure. Quote of Initial email Needed: Please feel free to add any individual team requirements for the final Drupal based website. All