[Marxism] Damascus scenes
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/09/24/street-scenes-from-a-damascus-neighborhood/ Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Damascus scenes
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I'm just posting a piece. Not trying to convince anyone of anything at this point. I figure the more info from the multiple perspectives can only help elucidate the matter. Perhaps I am incorrect in this, but what the hell On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Louis Proyect l...@panix.com wrote: On 9/24/14 12:16 PM, Ron Jacobs via Marxism wrote: http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/09/24/street-scenes-from- a-damascus-neighborhood/ Ron, aren't you aware that Lamb has been a strong supporter of the Baathists, Hizbollah and Iran for many years? If you want to convince people that the FSA is a bunch of crooks and thugs, maybe you should look elsewhere unless you want to embarrass yourself on purpose. More drivel from Lamb on Press-TV: Western media outlets have been publishing reports of President Bashar al-Assad’s plummeting approval rate, but Franklin Lamb, an international lawyer based in Beirut, begs to differ. “I think that has never been in real doubt for people who go to Syria and talk to people first hand and not rely on the internet in exchanging and repeating the same themes,” Lamb said in an exclusive interview with Press TV on Friday. full: http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/01/18/284288/syrians- show-growing-support-for-assad/ Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Damascus scenes
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == the two best known supporters on this list of almost any group opposed to Assad have chimed inanyone else? On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Clay Claiborne clayc...@gmail.com wrote: Frank Lamb? Oh please? May I suggest a correction, in the name of accuracy? Your statement should read: I figure the more dis-info from the multiple perspectives can only help confuse the matter. Then you would be correct. Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust http://VietnamAmericanHolocaust.com Linux Beach Productions Venice, CA 90291 (310) 581-1536 Read my blogs at the Linux Beach http://claysbeach.blogspot.com/ http://wlcentral.org/user/2965/track On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Ron Jacobs via Marxism marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu wrote: == Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I'm just posting a piece. Not trying to convince anyone of anything at this point. I figure the more info from the multiple perspectives can only help elucidate the matter. Perhaps I am incorrect in this, but what the hell On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Louis Proyect l...@panix.com wrote: On 9/24/14 12:16 PM, Ron Jacobs via Marxism wrote: http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/09/24/street-scenes-from- a-damascus-neighborhood/ Ron, aren't you aware that Lamb has been a strong supporter of the Baathists, Hizbollah and Iran for many years? If you want to convince people that the FSA is a bunch of crooks and thugs, maybe you should look elsewhere unless you want to embarrass yourself on purpose. More drivel from Lamb on Press-TV: Western media outlets have been publishing reports of President Bashar al-Assad’s plummeting approval rate, but Franklin Lamb, an international lawyer based in Beirut, begs to differ. “I think that has never been in real doubt for people who go to Syria and talk to people first hand and not rely on the internet in exchanging and repeating the same themes,” Lamb said in an exclusive interview with Press TV on Friday. full: http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/01/18/284288/syrians- show-growing-support-for-assad/ Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/clayclai%40gmail.com Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Damascus scenes
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Ron, May I take it then that you don't oppose Assad, even though he's been bombing breadlines for years? Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust http://VietnamAmericanHolocaust.com Linux Beach Productions Venice, CA 90291 (310) 581-1536 Read my blogs at the Linux Beach http://claysbeach.blogspot.com/ http://wlcentral.org/user/2965/track On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Ron Jacobs ronj1...@gmail.com wrote: the two best known supporters on this list of almost any group opposed to Assad have chimed inanyone else? On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Clay Claiborne clayc...@gmail.com wrote: Frank Lamb? Oh please? May I suggest a correction, in the name of accuracy? Your statement should read: I figure the more dis-info from the multiple perspectives can only help confuse the matter. Then you would be correct. Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust http://VietnamAmericanHolocaust.com Linux Beach Productions Venice, CA 90291 (310) 581-1536 Read my blogs at the Linux Beach http://claysbeach.blogspot.com/ http://wlcentral.org/user/2965/track On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Ron Jacobs via Marxism marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu wrote: == Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I'm just posting a piece. Not trying to convince anyone of anything at this point. I figure the more info from the multiple perspectives can only help elucidate the matter. Perhaps I am incorrect in this, but what the hell On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Louis Proyect l...@panix.com wrote: On 9/24/14 12:16 PM, Ron Jacobs via Marxism wrote: http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/09/24/street-scenes-from- a-damascus-neighborhood/ Ron, aren't you aware that Lamb has been a strong supporter of the Baathists, Hizbollah and Iran for many years? If you want to convince people that the FSA is a bunch of crooks and thugs, maybe you should look elsewhere unless you want to embarrass yourself on purpose. More drivel from Lamb on Press-TV: Western media outlets have been publishing reports of President Bashar al-Assad’s plummeting approval rate, but Franklin Lamb, an international lawyer based in Beirut, begs to differ. “I think that has never been in real doubt for people who go to Syria and talk to people first hand and not rely on the internet in exchanging and repeating the same themes,” Lamb said in an exclusive interview with Press TV on Friday. full: http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/01/18/284288/syrians- show-growing-support-for-assad/ Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/clayclai%40gmail.com Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Damascus scenes
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On 9/24/14 2:01 PM, Ron Jacobs wrote: I am not trying to convince anybody of anything, Louis. Provoke, perhaps, but not convince. The real issue is the same as it was with Seymour Hersh. He asks you to believe what an unnamed spook told him about sarin gas and Lamb ask you to trust his sources, like this: This observers friend of more than three years, whose name is withheld for his security, but who is known to several foreigners here who seek English speaking ‘fixers’ has lived most of his life in Barzeh and he knows many of the militia guys. He reports that currently there are only two foreign fighters in Barzeh, one from Algeria and one from Saudi Arabia. He expressed shock to me that last week one of his best child-hood friends—who joined al Nusra eighteen months ago, suddenly disappeared. A few days later my friend got a ‘what’s up’ message from Turkey with a telephone number to call his friend. He did and learned to his amazement, since his friend was one of the leaders of al Nusra locally, that his fried had shaved his beard, changed his style of clothing and left Barzeh without telling anyone. Now he reports that he wears shorts and swims during the day on the Turkish coast and no longer has any desire to fight anyone. This bullshit is laughable. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Damascus scenes
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Then you have succeeded. Sorry I can't continue but I have to go to work now, so TTFN Clay Clay Claiborne, Director Vietnam: American Holocaust http://VietnamAmericanHolocaust.com Linux Beach Productions Venice, CA 90291 (310) 581-1536 Read my blogs at the Linux Beach http://claysbeach.blogspot.com/ http://wlcentral.org/user/2965/track On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Ron Jacobs via Marxism marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu wrote: == Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I am not trying to convince anybody of anything, Louis. Provoke, perhaps, but not convince. On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Louis Proyect l...@panix.com wrote: On 9/24/14 1:39 PM, Ron Jacobs via Marxism wrote: the two best known supporters on this list of almost any group opposed to Assad have chimed inanyone else? In fact, anything I have ever written about Syria draws support from either the bourgeois press or academic scholars--exactly the same kind of sources found in Noam Chomsky. When would Chomsky ever quote a hack like Franklin Lamb to convince anybody? Surely you can do better than that, Ron. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/clayclai%40gmail.com Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Damascus scenes
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On 9/24/14 3:30 PM, Shane Mage via Marxism wrote: As such it is no surprise that they echo the stupid English acronyms for the Arabic title of the worst of the Islamic fascist groups--ISIS' and ISIL instead of the accurate DA-ESH So, Shane, are you for bombing DA-ESH the same way you were for French jets bombing jihadists in Mali? Inquiring minds want to know... Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
