Re: [Marxism] If Obama doesn't want to do it, he'll go to Congress

[Clay Claiborne via Marxism]

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On 08/28/2014 12:33 PM, Joseph Catron wrote:
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Clay Claiborne via Marxism 
mailto:marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu>> wrote:


I heard David Swanson do exactly that when he spoke in Los Angeles
afterwards. Now he calls 
Obama's new bombing in Iraq without going to congress first
/"justified."/ What jerks these people are!


Clay, you should work on either your reading comprehension or your 
personality, or perhaps both.
Thanks, but for your reply, I may have never realized that I screwed up 
the link to the Swanson quote. It was meant to link to 
http://davidswanson.org/node/4504

and the quote that I think "justified" my comment was this:
The U.S. bombing around Erbil to protect Kurdish and U.S. oil 
interests was initially justified as bombing to protect people on a 
mountain
This bombing was done without congressional approval and the way I read 
it, David Swanson is saying that was justified.


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Re: [Marxism] If Obama doesn't want to do it, he'll go to Congress

[Joseph Catron via Marxism]

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On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Clay Claiborne via Marxism <
marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote:

I heard David Swanson do exactly that when he spoke in Los Angeles
> afterwards. Now he calls  Obama's new
> bombing in Iraq without going to congress first /"justified."/ What jerks
> these people are!


Clay, you should work on either your reading comprehension or your
personality, or perhaps both. This combination of them is not appealing. I
don't think you're lying to us *per se*, since after all, you gave us the
link. But calling people names based on the exact, diametric opposite of
what they said is the behavior of something sadder than a "jerk."

For those disinclined to click through, here are the kinds of things
Swanson says at Clay's link:

"The U.S. bombing around Erbil to protect Kurdish and U.S. oil interests
was initially justified as bombing to protect people on a mountain. But
most of those people on the mountain were in no need of rescue, and that
justification has now been set aside, just as Benghazi was."

"Ever since President Carter declared that the U.S. would kill for Iraqi
oil, each of his successors has believed that course of action justified,
and each has made matters significantly worse."

"A bombing campaign justified as protecting people actually endangers them,
and those around them, and many others, including those of us living in the
imperial Homeland."

Perhaps the lesson here has something to do with the dangers of using
one-word quotes melodramatically?

-- 
"Hige sceal þe heardra, heorte þe cenre, mod sceal þe mare, þe ure mægen
lytlað."

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[Marxism] If Obama doesn't want to do it, he'll go to Congress

[Clay Claiborne via Marxism]

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New from Linux Beach in San Antonio:


 If Obama doesn't want to do it, he'll go to Congress
 


That's what the commentator or politician, I didn't get the name, said 
on CNN this morning. He was talking about President Barack Obama's 
threat to attack ISIS in Syria. His point was that if Obama was 
bluffing and really didn't want to attack, as was the case after 
Bashar al-Assad's use of sarin to kill more than a thousand people in 
East Ghouta, Syria last year, he would go to Congress and let it die. 
If he did want to bomb ISIS in Syria, he would just do it.


When Obama was looking for a reason to renege on his promise to attack 
Assad if he killed with chemical weapons, he took his problem to 
Congress. Most of the anti-imperialist /"Left"/ promptly started 
organizing anti-war protests to protect Assad from Obama, /as if/ 
Obama ever had any real intentions of attacking the fascist dictator 
that for years he has been publicly appealing to /"step down"/ 
voluntarily.


When Congress did what everyone knew they would do, oppose Obama's 
/"proposed"/ military action against Assad, the whole anti-imperialist 
/"Left"/ burst out in celebration, took credit for the /"reversal"/, 
and bragged about their growing power. I heard David Swanson do 
exactly that when he spoke in Los Angeles afterwards. Now he calls 
 Obama's new bombing in Iraq without 
going to congress first /"justified."/ What jerks these people are! At 
the time I likened them to the little boy in car commercial dressed as 
Darth Vader that thinks he started the family car with /"the Force,"/ 
while his father creates the magic with the cars remote start.


*More...* 




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