on for days and seems to be going around in
circles.
Thanks Louis for reminding me of a fourth TP function: providing a
perfect arena for MM posters to chase their tails in.
Shane Mage
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Chen Duxiu told Peng Shuzhi that if
-- and Kevin Zeese and Paul Buhle etc. etc. --
START by sucking up to the Tea Party (and 9/11 truth maniacs)
If you start by sucking up to 9/11 false maniacs like Obama you'll
end--exactly where you belong.
Shane Mage
The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each
according
- imagine they are doing what the democratic and
civilized world [that is, the US, of course] does.
So the most repressive and anticonstitutional practices of the US and
Canadian authorities are what Cuban law embraces? How socialist!
Shane Mage
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Dear Shane Mage -
You've
owners themselves against the real risk:
100. Statistic: the number of nuclear plants that would have been
built without Price-Anderson: zero.
Shane Mage
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but stay far from the water. David will
disagree. But we all should agree that a movement pressing for this
*immediate* demand is needed to show which of us is right about that.
Shane Mage
Thunderbolt steers all things. Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr. 64
April 5, 2010
How Will We Know if Obama is Serious?
If someone in the administration mentions The Liberty.
Shane Mage
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, managed to put the whole of the
US air-security and air-defense systems out of operation on the
morning of 11/09/01?
Shane Mage
The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each
according to his need.
The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each
.
Kennedy?...
On twisting history, he speaks with personal authority.
Shane Mage
The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each
according to his need.
The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each
according to his greed.
Joe Stack (1956-2010
of drugs and assisted suicide?
Anybody who answers no has no place among us now, and never had one.
Shane Mage
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bourgeoisie. They succeeded, with the historical consequences that we
all know and lament.
Shane Mage
Porphyry in his Abstinance from Animal Flesh suggests that there are
appropriate offerings to all the Gods, and to the highest the only
offering acceptable is silence
) in their capitulation to
Stalin. He served Stalin as a journalist until the Moscow Trials when
he was convicted and murdered by GULAG rather than by execution.
Shane Mage
Porphyry in his Abstinance from Animal Flesh suggests that there are
appropriate offerings to all the Gods, and to the highest
of Chinese society will have much impact...
Sorry, you weren't among that particular handful of old men. Mark
was referring to the CPC leadership and how, by passing resolutions,
they changed the Chinese state from a workers' state to a capitalist
state.
Shane Mage
The communist creed
. I'm sure that the government almost
never
tells the truth about them.
Why are you sure? Do you claim that the government has identified
*almost all* of them and is lying by claiming that they are
unidentified? Why is it lying?
Shane Mage
L'après-vie, c'est une auberge espagnole. L'on n'y
since.
Shane Mage
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Shane Mage wrote:
We can
.
--
Which Marxists do this?
Marx, Lenin, Trotsky for three...
Shane Mage
Porphyry in his Abstinance from Animal Flesh suggests that there are
appropriate offerings to all the Gods, and to the highest the only
offering acceptable
is by definition a petit bourgeois behavior.
But exactly what makes anyone put this particular terrorist *on the
right*?
Shane Mage
The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each
according to his need.
The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each
in somewhat refined engineering analysis.
any
idiot can say they dynamited it...
But only professional scientific workers, after exhaustive analysis of
debris, can say they nanothermited them.
Reference to a scientific rebuttal, please.
Shane Mage
Porphyry in his Abstinance from Animal
to another, as in the
JFK, MLK et. al, executions.
Shane Mage
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Shane Mage wrote, inter alia
into the North Tower.
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considerable doubt.
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are you shoveling the words
because they've been gotten to?
Shane Mage
Porphyry in his Abstinance from Animal Flesh suggests that there are
appropriate offerings to all the Gods, and to the highest the only
offering acceptable is silence
by (at least) part of the Left. So why should
a Left forum not hear the views of a pro war someone who, unlike
some others, is an Iraqi?
Shane Mage
L'après-vie, c'est une auberge espagnole. L'on n'y trouve que ce
qu'on a apporté.
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with such certainty certainly
needs to be branded. Where the brand should be applied, and which
iron to use, are matters for discussion.
Shane Mage
The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each
according to his need.
The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility
with, at least until labor and its divisions have been done away with.
Shane Mage
Porphyry in his Abstinance from Animal Flesh suggests that there are
appropriate offerings to all the Gods, and to the highest the only
offering acceptable is silence
, should do all we can to frustrate their aims--in that
as in everything else.
Shane Mage
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Iscariot and the Myth of Jewish Evil by Hyam
Maccoby.
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that would no longer require the illusion of
religion.
If religion is an illusion how can it not be wrong? What can a
human truth possibly be except a truth known and recognized by humans?
Shane Mage
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States government?
S. Artesian wrote:
Disagree. Think the teabaggers will make a martyr of him-- kind of
an
piper-cub Christ, crucified against the side of the IRS money-tax
temple.
Shane Mage
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comfort every card-carrying A.C.L.U. member.
Shane Mage
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Corporations that they hate!
On 2/18/10, Shane Mage wrote:
Common ground?
Tea Party leaders say they know their complaints about shredded
constitutional principles and excessive spending ring hollow to
some,
given their relative passivity through the Bush years. In some ways,
though, their main
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explicitly denounced this criminal
record of statistical falsification.
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to tell the truth...
Are you really amazed that telling the truth is popular?
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there was no global economy in existence during at
least seventeen of those eighteen centuries, and also since at no
time in those eighteen centuries was China involved in international
trade to any significant extent.
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did not include process.
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best described in the brilliant book by Alexander Erlich, The Soviet
Industrialization Debate, 1924-1928.
Shane Mage
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in Evasion. And the
CPSU majority (the members, not the apparatus) favored either Bukharin
or Trotsky, with Stalin acting only within the apparatus and the
Central Committee it controlled by manipulation and indirect election.
Shane Mage
This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it
always
the humungous amount
of capital now invested in the--obsolescent--transportation
industries.
But I do dream of the day when the first of the great airships
(called, of course, the Humanity) makes its maiden round-the-world
voyage and people everywhere look up and exclaim Oh! the Humanity!
Shane Mage
of the available solar input would today and forever provide
a huge multiple of the world's economic energy needs.
Shane Mage
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and exclaim Oh! the Humanity!
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Reich itself)
doomed from the outset to fiery destruction. Or to Klingsor's illusory
tower. In his madness Hitler imagined himself a Siegfried. He was
nothing but a wannabe Klingsor.
Shane Mage
This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it
always was and is and shall be: an everlasting
-- but had to have clerks available as so many customers were
confused by the process-- and I think it presents a greater
opportunity for pilferage-- scan the low priced article, but bag the
high priced article.
I can't imagine Whole Foods, anti-union or not, doing such a thing.
Shane Mage
shm
false. This tendency runs riot in the unconscious behavior of all
orthodox Marxism, the provisos of dialectics notwithstanding, and is
near incurable as such...
Just as all philosophy is a series of footnotes to Plato, so all
social science is a series of footnotes to Marx.
Shane Mage
economy.? We will never build a
socialist economy by proclaiming overpopulation as a cause of
capitalist
induced poverty and scarcity.
Of course. But you don't think population numbers should be exempt
from the
communist society's planning for the planetary future, do you?
Shane Mage
about that once we establish
socialism. Given what we know about birth rates as societies develop
and women find fewer obstacles to full economic independence, I don't
see a problem.
On Jan 29, 2010, at 20:20, Shane Mage shm...@pipeline.com
Of course. But you don't think population numbers
with workers of the world, unite!?
Capitalists don't do irony.
Should be Ultima Ratio Regionis
But they don't do honesty either.
Shane Mage
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regis (from rex) if the US were a monarchy. But it's a country
(a state), hence regionis (from regio). (As in cueius regio,
eius religio)
Ah, I see your point. But it's a bit of a stretch to gloss
regio as state.
True. But the Romans had no word
of veterans
of the 1917 proletarian revolution, and they were not eliminated until
the bloody 1935-1938 Purges
when a new class of bureaucrats were coopted into state and economic
power.
Shane Mage
This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it
always was and is and shall be: an everlasting
just like a Democrat would.
Shane Mage
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is said
*after* the events. The Owl of Minerva takes flight only after
darkness has fallen.
Shane Mage
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by the words
he wrote in 1939: The Nature of the Soviet Union Not Yet Decided by
History.
Shane Mage
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the
proto-Zionist murder/suicide gang at Masada rather than write the
War and the Antiquities?
Shane Mage
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it never be said that I cannot tolerate agreement.
Shane Mage
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people in 1776 understood that unless the
national
liberation revolution emancipated the slaves, society would have to
fight the
revolution...
Exactly. Which is why the clearest thinking slaves and native
americans fought on the side of... King George.
Shane Mage
This cosmos did none
and a patriot without being a...social patriot?
Shane Mage
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unity articulated by the Chinese
communists was ousting imperial foreigners as masters of China...
Yes, that was one goal. Another, equally pressing, goal was ousting
Tibetans as masters of Tibet and installing imperial (Chinese)
foreigners as masters of Tibet.
Shane Mage
This cosmos did
such sneering.
Yes, self-proclaimed was excessive. Inverted commas would have
sufficed.
Shane Mage
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Yes, self
read Bina's paper? Just
asking for the hell of it...
I certainly did, and find myself in strong agreement with his basic
thesis (or he with mine?).
Shane Mage
This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it
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) and what he says about the nature of the Iranian
Islamic regime. As to MRzine , it has exposed different views, some
indeed abominable, but nothing I've read in MR itself seems intended
to justify Ahmadi-nejad co.
Shane Mage
This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it
always
a degenerate
workers' institution to a regenerated capitalist one.
Shane Mage
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Euergetes
(and, the Egyptians being expert astronomers who knows for how many
years before that?) the Egyptians refused to accept leap years until
the Julian calendar was imposed upon them by Augustus.
Shane Mage
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always was and is and shall
--
except for the members of the House and Senate.--Mark Twain
Shane Mage
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underpants to hoist as a banner as he
leads us all into more death and destruction. So history repeats
itself as farce.
But the original *was* farce. What does one call the parody of a farce?
Shane Mage
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always was and is and shall
.
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Set
the
old Open Door in a new guise?
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So why *didn't* he set off his bomb in the lavatory?
Shane Mage
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because
when thieves fall out the honest come into their own.
Shane Mage
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in complete agreement: Stalin's Russia was
an example of socialism for the world to support and defend.
Mr. Barton should read something--anything--by Trotsky before
committing any more such imbecilities.
Puke.
Shane Mage
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always
: It's still too recent to determine.
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of the Great French
Revolution: It's still too recent to determine.
Shane Mage
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as their cost calculations never corresponded in
any way to real resource scarcities); and those divergences became
ever wider over the decades until the whole system broke down in the
fiasco of the 1970s-1980s.
Shane Mage
This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it
always
the election of 2016 (more likely 2020)
at the earliest. And it would deprive millions of women of coverage
for the consequences of undesired pregnancy while opening a new arena
for state-by-state prohibitionist demagogy. I could go on
Shane Mage
This cosmos did none of gods or men
. You've bought her labor, embodied in the repaired
refrigerator. M-C. Not part of the circuit of capitalist production.
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it is. refusal to
review might have been the optimum outcome.
Shane Mage
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wants markets in body parts.
However ideologically incompetent Dr. Kevorkian might be, the fact
remains that laws criminalizing the abetting of perfectly legal
actions are as atrocious as they are absurd.
Shane Mage
This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it
always was and is and shall
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writes:
On Dec 13, 2009, at 2:25 PM, Michael Perelman wrote:
He is a libertarian who wants markets in body parts.
However ideologically incompetent Dr. Kevorkian might be, the fact
remains that laws criminalizing the abetting of perfectly legal
actions
war into a civil war disappeared without a trace , as
Lenin unapologetically embraced the Trotskyite slogan of All Power
to the Soviets of Workers', Peasants'. and Soldiers' Deputies.
Shane Mage
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and the International, were both severely criticized by
Lenin and Zinoviev (these criticisms, including the label
Kautskyist, were brought to the fore by Stalin and Zinoviev during
the troika's campaign against Trotskyism).
See pp. 150ff of Broué's biography of Trotsky.
Shane Mage
This cosmos did
minimize
inevitable suffering to the extent that we make of ourselves the sort
of animal that can eat consciously.
Shane Mage
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, don't you think? 2nd hand of god
just doesn't have the same...ring to it.
Nope, it doesn't. But everyone got the allusion.
There's only one Maradona!
Shane Mage
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it works out.
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an internal war rather than a
case of external aggression.”
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YOU
they?
Because, I suggest, the word came down from the health-insurance
industry lobbyists that the huge subsidies and captive consumers make
this a good bill--for them. Only Kucinich among the Dumbocrats seems
to have got the message--and voted NO!
Shane Mage
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, where is
the stratgic reserve? Answer: there is none.
Shane Mage
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YOU
embrace of the loathsome Ahmedi-
nejad?
Shane Mage
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it's still you. Whether
standing on its feet or its head, it's still the same, real, world.
Shane Mage
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by people, individually or collectively, stupidly or reasonably,
arbitrarily or deliberatively, democratically or autocratically. But
not by hypostatized nations.
Shane Mage
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Say What?
Oct 16, 2009
The Large Hadron Collider has met with a few unforeseen accidents.
Could they be a bizarre case of sabotage?
Particle physicists began thinking about the Large Hadron Collider
(LHC) early in the 1980s. The LHC's predecessor, the Large Electron
Ti
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you translate for us the other two titles that you mentioned,
Shane?
One title:
Bourgeois et Bras Nus: La Lutte des Classes sous la Première
République.
The bourgeoisie and the shirtless ones: the class struggle during the
First Republic.
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