[Marxism] On Lalgarh

2009-10-24 Thread new wave
Comrades, Here is the link to recent post on Lalgarh http://new-wave-nw.blogspot.com/2009/10/from-singur-via-nandigram-to-lalgarh.html -- New Wave new-wave-nw.blogspot.com YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list

[Marxism] On Lalgarh

2009-10-24 Thread new wave
Comrades, here is the link to the recent article on lalgarh. http://new-wave-nw.blogspot.com/2009/10/from-singur-via-nandigram-to-lalgarh.html -- New Wave new-wave-nw.blogspot.com YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send

[Marxism] Foofooraw: The Dialectic of Impotence (an inauguration day story)

2009-10-24 Thread Bhaskar Sunkara
http://theactivist.org/blog/life-on-the-fringe-an-inauguration-day-story a bit disjointed and rushed, but the story is completely true. YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.e

[Marxism] Foofooraw: The Dialectic of Impotence (An Inauguration Day Story)

2009-10-24 Thread Bhaskar Sunkara
*[i published this, but probably need to give it a more through proof-reading--- excuse any typos] * * * *http://theactivist.org/blog/life-on-the-fringe-an-inauguration-day-story * * * *2:45 pm: the day before Obama’s inauguration.* The temperature is well below zero. I’m more than slightly intoxi

Re: [Marxism] Daniel Jonah Goldhagen's "Worse than War"

2009-10-24 Thread Dennis Brasky
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 5:50 PM, S. Artesian wrote: > Hmmh... let's look at some numbers. The US kills somewhere between 1.5 and > 2 million Vietnamese in that war; 500,000 or was it 600,000? with sanctions > on Iraq after Gulf War 1. Sounds to me like an anti-genocidal task force > should targe

Re: [Marxism] Where is Trotsky St.?

2009-10-24 Thread Greg McDonald
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=trotsky%20street&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wl Haha, That's really too much. Trotsky St. interesects with the "Martyrs of Chicago", and is two blocks down from Josef Stalin and three blocks from Emiliano Zapat

Re: [Marxism] Daniel Jonah Goldhagen's "Worse than War"

2009-10-24 Thread S. Artesian
Hmmh... let's look at some numbers. The US kills somewhere between 1.5 and 2 million Vietnamese in that war; 500,000 or was it 600,000? with sanctions on Iraq after Gulf War 1. Sounds to me like an anti-genocidal task force should target, first and foremost, the US. - Original Message --

[Marxism] Where is Trotsky Street?

2009-10-24 Thread Néstor Gorojovsky
Just do a Google Earth search. Surprising? Maybe not -- Néstor Gorojovsky El texto principal de este correo puede no ser de mi autoría YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.ut

Re: [Marxism] Post

2009-10-24 Thread Tom Cod
right and this hyper-correct argument gets twisted even more by sectarians when it is directed at movements of the oppressed or movements objectively in support of them. Thus some, instead of showing solidarity, insolently ranted and raved at Quakers protesting the Christmas bombing of Vietnam

Re: [Marxism] Is this what Ho Chi Minh died for?

2009-10-24 Thread S. Artesian
Thanks for the links to your work on Vietnam. Very helpful. Regarding the issue of golf courses and use/exchange value-- clearly Vietnam is not socialist, and I would not criticize Vietnam on the basis of "not yet being socialist," as that is an ahistorical criticism, one that could have been

Re: [Marxism] Is this what Ho Chi Minh died for?

2009-10-24 Thread Michael Karadjis
Whatever my (evolving, as VN evolves) views on Vietnam, one thing I can agree with the moderator about (as implied in sending this article) is that golf courses are an outright imperialist scourge which rob farmland from peasants and give it to foreign and local VNese capitalists to play what t

Re: [Marxism] Communist Party of Nepal recognises role of Leon Trotsky

2009-10-24 Thread mike ely
Jay Clintoin wrote: > "The Kasama website has posted a response to the linked article here: http://mikeely.wordpress.com/2009/10/22/on-rumors-of-nepali-maoists-trotskyism-and-socialism-in-one-country/ > The response says of the the linked article that "Bhattarai’s remarks were > taken out of th

[Marxism] Electronic Intifada review of Shlomo Sand

2009-10-24 Thread Sebastian Budgen
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article10848.shtml YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%

Re: [Marxism] Martin Heidegger, Nazism and Philosophy (for Turkish readers)

2009-10-24 Thread Dogan Gocmen
Dear Louis, thank you very much for your references. Doğan 2009/10/23 Louis Proyect > Dogan Gocmen wrote: > > Uzun yıllardan sonra Türkiye felsefecileri (ve genel olarak aydınları) > > arasındaki sohbet ve tartışmalara yakından kulak misafiri olduğumda, > Martin > > Heidegger isminin hiç tereddü

Re: [Marxism] Fight censorship of "Gay Imperialism" book

2009-10-24 Thread Steve Heeren
i don't like LGBT, either. how about G-BLT? it is much more mouth-watering. YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailm

Re: [Marxism] Not Afraid to Scare (review of Where the Wild Things Are)

2009-10-24 Thread Louis Proyect
Max Clark wrote: > http://socialistworker.org/2009/10/23/not-afraid-to-scare > > Best thing from the SW in a while. Plus, I *used* to know Jim Ramey, back > before I was excommunicated from the ISO for my schizophrenia. > > The very best, > St. Max > > http://clarkmax.blogspot.com > Well, th

[Marxism] Not Afraid to Scare (review of Where the Wild Things Are)

2009-10-24 Thread Max Clark
http://socialistworker.org/2009/10/23/not-afraid-to-scare Best thing from the SW in a while. Plus, I *used* to know Jim Ramey, back before I was excommunicated from the ISO for my schizophrenia. The very best, St. Max http://clarkmax.blogspot.com _

Re: [Marxism] Fight censorship of "Gay Imperialism" book

2009-10-24 Thread Louis Proyect
> David, can you please post the above to the various lists and > individuals that have been circulating these sectarian, > politically-motivated lies? I don't have access to them. > > My version deserves to be heard too. > > I really need your help to counter this awful malicious vendetta. > >

Re: [Marxism] Is this what Ho Chi Minh died for?

2009-10-24 Thread S. Artesian
Enough for you? But of course. I doubt anyone is surprised. But before you go, let me point out once again your distortion of fact. There is no double-standard on the list. No article from any source is ever accepted uncritically by those on the list. Critical-ness requires however, a materi

Re: [Marxism] Fight censorship of "Gay Imperialism" book

2009-10-24 Thread David Thorstad
The Socialism and Sex list had an exchange about this censorship case, with a sensible contribution by Peter Drucker, which I passed along, because I oppose censorship and have been a victim of it myself. I also sent the exchange to Peter Tatchell, prompting the following response. Out of fairn

Re: [Marxism] Is this what Ho Chi Minh died for?

2009-10-24 Thread S. Artesian
I think Fred has gone over the top in a) concentrating on the moderator's headline for the post on Vietnam b) declaring such headline to be "obscene." The issue is not the appropriateness of the headline but the content of the analysis. The "development" of golf courses does not occur in isol

Re: [Marxism] Is this what Ho Chi Minh died for?

2009-10-24 Thread Néstor Gorojovsky
i am not avoiding anything. I am pointing out a double standard in some of our lists´ contributors. When it comes to the US of Am, the NYT is duly scrutinized. When it comes to Viet Nam, it is not. Enough for me on this stupid thread. I subscribe all and each of Fred Feldman´s words. 2009/10/24 De

Re: [Marxism] Is this what Ho Chi Minh died for?

2009-10-24 Thread Dennis Brasky
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 4:58 AM, Fred Feldman wrote: > Dennis Brasky goes over the top in accusing Nestor of "political > cowardice" not agreeing with him and others who seem to argue that the > emergence of golf courses in Vietnam (related to the emergence of a new > rich > layer and to the

[Marxism] Daniel Jonah Goldhagen's "Worse than War"

2009-10-24 Thread jayroth6
Gird your loins: another scholar demanding "anti-genocide" action by imperialism He argues as well that "political Islam" - jihadism - constitutes "the most coherent and deadly mass-­murderous ideology since Nazism." http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/18/books/review/Traub-t.html excerpt: Goldhag

[Marxism] Fight censorship of "Gay Imperialism" book

2009-10-24 Thread Louis Proyect
http://www.monthlyreview.org/mrzine/aizura231009.html YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archiv

Re: [Marxism] Is this what Ho Chi Minh struggled for?

2009-10-24 Thread Louis Proyect
Fred Feldman wrote: > > The debate over golf courses is a relatively new issue to come to popular > consciousness, as far as I know The first time I have seen that directly > fought over has been in Venezuela where Chavez has threatened to nationalize > the golf courses because of the land and wat

[Marxism] Yiddish and Khazar migration

2009-10-24 Thread Ernie Halfdram
Lou, 1.I couldn't understand Doğan's post either. 2.If Koestler et al are right that the Ashkenazim migrated into Europe from Khazaria, that would have been from the area between the Caspian and Black Seas, north of modern Georgia, not from Turkey. In any case, the

Re: [Marxism] Is this what Ho Chi Minh died for?

2009-10-24 Thread Fred Feldman
Dennis Brasky goes over the top in accusing Nestor of "political cowardice" not agreeing with him and others who seem to argue that the emergence of golf courses in Vietnam (related to the emergence of a new rich layer and to the importance of tourism for the Vietnamese economy) represents the