Re: [Marxism] China investing heavily in infrastructure: Railway

2009-09-01 Thread Lüko Willms
S. Artesian (sartes...@earthlink.net) wrote on 2009-08-31 at 15:24:56 in about Re: [Marxism] China investing heavily in infrastructure: Railway: I didn't provide any aggregates, I used Lukos. which are not mine, but the statistics of the UIC, provided by the railway companies

Re: [Marxism] China investing heavily in infrastructure: Railway

2009-09-01 Thread Lüko Willms
S. Artesian (sartes...@earthlink.net) wrote on 2009-08-31 at 21:33:34 in about Re: [Marxism] China investing heavily in infrastructure: Railway: Does it include passenger operations? Because China's Rail Knowledge magazine reports 77,000 KM of total track in China, not 60,000 for 2006

Re: [Marxism] China investing heavily in infrastructure: Railway

2009-09-01 Thread S. Artesian
Willms lueko.wil...@t-online.de To: David Schanoes sartes...@earthlink.net Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 2:01 AM Subject: Re: [Marxism] China investing heavily in infrastructure: Railway YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying

Re: [Marxism] China investing heavily in infrastructure: Railway

2009-09-01 Thread Lüko Willms
S. Artesian (sartes...@earthlink.net) wrote on 2009-09-01 at 11:43:26 in about Re: [Marxism] China investing heavily in infrastructure: Railway: Miles of roadway excludes yard tracks and sidings, and does not reflect the fact that a mile of road may include two, three, or more parallel

[Marxism] China investing heavily in infrastructure: Railway (was: railroads)

2009-08-31 Thread Lüko Willms
Michael Perelman (mich...@ecst.csuchico.edu) wrote on 2009-08-30 at 18:53:48 in about [Marxism] railroads: In China, I gave 2 different talks about 150 -200 miles away from where I was staying in Beijing and Shanghai. The trips took less than 2 hours; very comfortable. I don't know

Re: [Marxism] China investing heavily in infrastructure: Railway

2009-08-31 Thread Lueko Willms
S. Artesian (sartes...@earthlink.net) wrote on 2009-08-31 at 09:32:21 in about Re: [Marxism] China investing heavily in infrastructure: Railway (was:railroads): As for China's high speed trainsets-- look what you wrote: bogies [we call them trucks in the US] and electric/electronics

Re: [Marxism] China investing heavily in infrastructure: Railway

2009-08-31 Thread Michael Perelman
David, on the aggregate data you gave, were you lumping together freight human transport? If so, some of the data might be misleading. One other anecdote: I see railroad track quite often when I travel around the US. I did not recall seing any railroads or even track outside of the train

Re: [Marxism] China investing heavily in infrastructure: Railway

2009-08-31 Thread Lüko Willms
S. Artesian (sartes...@earthlink.net) wrote on 2009-08-31 at 13:01:39 in about Re: [Marxism] China investing heavily in infrastructure: Railway: So let's look at this, China's network is 60,809 km vs the US 192, 123km. China with 2,075,000 employees vs 164,000 [149,000 Class 1, 110

Re: [Marxism] China investing heavily in infrastructure: Railway

2009-08-31 Thread nada
Luko...comparing the basic productivity of Chinese rail to US rail is...weird. Why? Because the US doesn't have a rail system that is particularly good, not when our highways are the main transport mode for most things, including people. I would like to see a comparison with *European* rail

Re: [Marxism] China investing heavily in infrastructure: Railway

2009-08-31 Thread S. Artesian
productivity numbers. If you can't provide those, at least spare us the guesses and the possibilities - Original Message - From: Lüko Willms lueko.wil...@t-online.de To: David Schanoes sartes...@earthlink.net Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [Marxism] China investing

Re: [Marxism] China investing heavily in infrastructure: Railway

2009-08-31 Thread S. Artesian
why CSX and NS went at it hammer and tongs in a bidding war for Conrail. - Original Message - From: nada dwalters...@gmail.com To: David Schanoes sartes...@earthlink.net Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 9:15 PM Subject: Re: [Marxism] China investing heavily in infrastructure: Railway