Re: M-TH: London Election - Left in a mess

2000-05-08 Thread J.WALKER
Chris said that he > we are going to have to learn how to use this proportional electoral system I > predict over the next ten years a group will emerge that will put a more > radical reasonably-coherent reformist position. I think the LSA already had put a radical reasonably-coherent reformist

Re: M-TH: London Election - Left in a mess

2000-05-05 Thread Chris Burford
At 13:24 05/05/00 +0100, you wrote: >On Fri, 5 May 2000, Andy Lehrer wrote: > > > The results thus far are disappointing. The LSA's only chance at an > outright > > first-past-the-post seat, Ian Page, has not been elected and as for the > "top-up" > > PR returns the LSA seems to be running bet

Re: M-TH: London Election - Left in a mess

2000-05-05 Thread J.WALKER
David wrote: > Turnout in elections is certainly falling and will probably fall further > at the next general election, but IMHO this represents not a rejection of > the 'parliamentary road' than a rejection of the possibility of any kind > of change. Yes I agree. I may actively abstain from elec

Re: M-TH: London Election - Left in a mess

2000-05-05 Thread David Welch
On Fri, 5 May 2000, J.WALKER wrote: > > My main argument (as I am not keen on just going over the old debates > of anti-parliamentarianism) is that the Left in its opposition to New > Labour either harks back to a false Golden Age of Old Labour which it > cannot attain or cannot see beyond el

Re: M-TH: London Election - Left in a mess

2000-05-05 Thread J.WALKER
Chris replied: > Proportional voting and tactical voting are becoming more important here. > Although there are delays in the London counting, one result tonight shows > massive tactical voting got the Conservative MP out in a Parliamentary > by-election, with Labour voters switching to Liberal

Re: M-TH: London Election - Left in a mess

2000-05-05 Thread David Welch
On Fri, 5 May 2000, Andy Lehrer wrote: > The results thus far are disappointing. The LSA's only chance at an outright > first-past-the-post seat, Ian Page, has not been elected and as for the "top-up" > PR returns the LSA seems to be running between 2-3% with half the votes counted, > well belo

Re: M-TH: London Election - Left in a mess

2000-05-05 Thread Chris Burford
At 15:19 04/05/00 +, you wrote: >Dear comrades, > >I have been quietly reading the Left press in relation to the London >Election and Ken Livingstone London's Mayoral candidate which is >happening today. > >A large section of the Trotskyist Left and the Marxist Leninist CPGB >are backing Ken L

M-TH: London Election - Left in a mess

2000-05-04 Thread J.WALKER
Dear comrades, I have been quietly reading the Left press in relation to the London Election and Ken Livingstone London's Mayoral candidate which is happening today. A large section of the Trotskyist Left and the Marxist Leninist CPGB are backing Ken Livingstone and have gathered themselves