[Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa L the metaphysician

In the next two paragraphs of the chapter “Dialectics” of _Socialism: Utopian and Scientific_, Engels describes Rosa L’s contradiction “free”, metaphysical , formal logical thinking. CB ^^^ But this conception (dialectics), correctly as it expresses the general character of the picture of app

[Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa Logica

Then here I recalled another clear Hegelianism in a major statement by Marx in _Capital_, contra Rosa L. ( and Andy Austin , from ten years ago here on Thaxis) claim that Marx crushed Hegel's head when he and Engels stood him on his feet. Charles Karl Marx. Capital Volume One ;Chapter Thirty-Two

[Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa Logica

This is more from over at http://marxisthumanistinitiative.org/2009/05/05/brief-comments-on-the-relationship-between-marxism-and-the-hegelian-dialectic/comment-page-2/#comment-147 where Rosa L argues that Marx's "method" , his "dialectic" , is totally not Hegel's, that he "extirpates" Hegel. CB:

[Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa L revisited

50 CB said at 3:58 pm on September 15th, 2009: Rosa L: “we already have devices in language that allow us to identify things: we can point at a rose and say ‘That’s a rose’, or at an individual called ‘John’ and say. ‘John is over there. He standing next to your father.’ We do not need to examine ‘

[Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa L. revisited

45 CB said at 1:13 pm on September 9th, 2009: Rosa: He now deigns to comment on the musings of my colleague Babeuf; here is an example of truly innovative historical materialism: “CB: Another fundamental activity was the raising of children. I’m thinking language/culture emerged between parents an

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa Lichtenstein vs. Andrew Kliman on dialectics

Spoken like a true "know" it all saying nothing. Ralph deserves himself, and that's about all he'll get. On 9/8/09, Ralph Dumain wrote: > I can't make a lick of sense out of Andrew Kliman's side of the > debate with Rosa. > > But note that none of it has any relationship to dialectical > material

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa Lichtenstein vs. Andrew Kliman on dialectics

I can't make a lick of sense out of Andrew Kliman's side of the debate with Rosa. But note that none of it has any relationship to dialectical materialism or the Marxist-Leninist notion of dialectical logic, which is really all that pedestrian Rosa has to argue against. And in that arena Rosa

[Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa L

Here part of my old exchange with Rosa. The same issue of the contradiction in "John is a man" came up in Kliman's exchange with her Rosa gets CB Charles Brown charlesb at cncl.ci.detroit.mi.us Thu Aug 23 09:48:11 MDT 2007

[Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa Lichtenstein vs. Andrew Kliman on dialectics

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[Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa

Surely, the most that could legitimately be claimed here is that up to now the available evidence supports a dialectical view of reality. ^ CB: Correct . See Marxism thaxis threads in which I point out that for Engels, the dialectical quality of reality is an a posteriori, not a priori, concl

[Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa

Clearly, the idea that the world is rational must be forced onto nature; it cannot be read from it, since nature is not Mind. ^ CB: This seems an "a priori" statement by Rosa. It is not "clear" that the idea that the world is rational must be forced onto nature, nor that to "read" rationality

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa Luxemburg

It's an excellent article. I was able to download it for free in .pdf at the site that is linked. Was that some quirk or is the journal available for free right now? I have put it into my handheld for future reading on the train. The problem with the approach in terms of readership is that most m

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa Luxemburg

Interesting. I didn't know Rosa Luxemburg got mixed up in philosophy, let alone attack Neo-Kantianism. I'm not going to pay $25 to learn what she said about it, but I am curious. At 06:18 AM 12/3/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Rosa Luxemburg, the Legacy of Classical German Philosophy and the

[Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa Luxemburg

Rosa Luxemburg, the Legacy of Classical German Philosophy and the Fundamental Methodological Questions of Social and Political Theory http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~content=a785120183~db=all~order=page Bei AOL g

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa gets CB

RD: > But what conclusions to draw without knowing what people do and how > they behave off-list? This doesn't just pertain to Marxists, but to > any political movement, and to many ostensibly non-political subjects. I am not even sure what conclusions to draw from the ON-LIST behaviour. For exa

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa gets CB

But what conclusions to draw without knowing what people do and how they behave off-list? This doesn't just pertain to Marxists, but to any political movement, and to many ostensibly non-political subjects. There is often a political correlation to debates over how many Hegels and surplus valu

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa gets CB

s Brown) > > > ---------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 14:21:46 -0400 > From: "Charles Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa gets CB > To: > Message-ID: <[E

[Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa gets CB

I've put this to "plain text" , but this pc sometimes causes the posts to show up in long lines across the page anyway. I gotta admit that Rosa L.packs in so many putdowns per essay, that I find it hard not to get diverted into repartee; and it kind of bogs me down in reading through her stuff.

[Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa gets CB

I may be lliterate, but at least she admits I'm logical. CB ^^^ Logical Illiterates Strike Again A year or so ago I had the great misfortune to correspond with an irascible fellow who could not resist making ill-informed comments about my Essays, all the while refusing to read them. I

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa Lichtenstein again

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Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa Lichtenstein again

I haven't checked the links, but am I Mr. D? You know, this is a sad case of Trotskyist obsessive-compulsive behavior, i.e. of a Trot consumed by his quarrels with other Trots, and to a lesser extent his competitors among other Marxist-Leninists. It's pathetic. It's true that diamat--at least

[Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa Lichtenstein again

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[Marxism-Thaxis] rosa luxemburg and hegelian philosophy (german)

Rosa Luxemburg: Die »schneidende Waffe der Hegelschen Dialektik« Dogan Göçmen (javascript:imgToggle2768('img2768');) Die philosophische Seite des Luxemburgischen Werkes ist kaum untersucht. Selbst unter Linken ist bislang hauptsächlich ihre politische Theorie berücksichtigt worden, d

[Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa strikes again

Rosa Lichtenstein has added some new essays to her website at: (http://www.anti-dialectics.org/) including a new essay (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rosa.l/Why%20I%20Oppose%20DM.htm) explaining why she rejects diamat as a Hermetic philosophy. Rosa also takes a swipe at our world famous Autodidac

[Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa Lichtenstein on "Wittgenstein and Marxism"

andie nachgeborenen * W's philosophy actually calls out for following up with such investigation. If you want to go beyond philosophy, you have to go _somewhere_ -- maybe to political economy and political sociology, like Marx, maybe to Ideologiekrit

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa Lichtenstein on "Wittgenstein and Marxism"

--- Ralph Dumain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All this is rather superficial, however. I think > Ernest Gellner nailed the > essentially conservative nature of Wittgenstein's > philosophy. Oh, agreed. W thought that philosophy done right "leaves everything as it is." That is a quote or at lea

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa Lichtenstein on "Wittgenstein and Marxism"

All this is rather superficial, however. I think Ernest Gellner nailed the essentially conservative nature of Wittgenstein's philosophy. Wittgenstein's conception of philosophy is hardly a notch above Carnap's dismissal of metaphysics as "bad poetry" or Neurath's metaphysicophobia. The notio

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa Lichtenstein on "Wittgenstein and Marxism"

The last thing W wanted ro be was a major philosopher. The point of his whole later work was to "shew (Brit sp.) the fly the way out of the fly bottle," and reveal that philosophy was a sort of mistake. Of course, if he felt that way he might just have stopped doing philosophy and done something e

[Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa Lichtenstein on "Wittgenstein and Marxism"

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rosa.l/Wittgenstein.htm "Rhees and Monk record the many sympathetic remarks Wittgenstein made about Marxism, about workers and about revolutionary activity. While these are not in themselves models of 'orthodoxy', they reveal how close Wittgenstein came to adoptin

[Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa Lichtenstein on "Wittgenstein and Marxism"

Jim Farmelant http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rosa.l/Wittgenstein.htm "However, Philosophers still in the grip of traditional ways of thinking often see this approach to theory as a dereliction of duty; according to them, Philosophy should form part of a general attempt to understand the world

[Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa Lichtenstein on "Wittgenstein and Marxism"

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Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa Lichtenstein responds to Ralph

ssage- From: Charles Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thu, 25 May 2006 08:54:45 -0400 Subject: [Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa Lichtenstein responds to Ralph X-INFO: INVALID TO LINE Rosa cites Bukharin as giving the best summary of Dialectical Marxism. Ironically, at one point Lenin called Bukharin

[Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa Lichtenstein responds to Ralph

Rosa cites Bukharin as giving the best summary of Dialectical Marxism. Ironically, at one point Lenin called Bukharin the Party's favorite , but criticized him for lack of dialectics in his work. I guess it makes sense that if Rosa is a critic of dialectics ,a weak dialectician would be the best a

[Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa Lichtenstein responds to Ralph

At http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rosa.l/index.htm Rosa tells us that she has rewritten her essay #4 in response to Ralph's post: www.mail-archive.com/marxism-thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu/msg02786.html Rosa's rewritten essay can be found at: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rosa.l/page%2004.htm#Now%20th

[Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa Parks' Action Day

I don't really subscribe to "A small group of thoughtful people could change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has. " Margaret Mead But Rosa Parks had a demonstration of one in a coordinated campaign planned by a

[Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa Parks

Waistline2 : CB: I've heard it said that Rosa Parks was in the CPUSA at the time she satdown. WL: What is the point? CB: You had just run down a whole thing about the problems of the CPUSA in the South, how "the CPUSA was in trouble." Then you end with " then Rosa Parks happened." Would be k

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa Parks

CB: I've heard it said that Rosa Parks was in the CPUSA at the time she satdown. WL: What is the point? Rosa Parks as individual narrative of American history exists on a continuum related to Plessy. The CPUSA's role in our history is never disputed by me, nor am I a "party hater." For valid re

[Marxism-Thaxis] Rosa Parks

Specification of new class struggle thesis - 3Waistline2 at aol.com Waistline2 Part 3 Earlier today, a memorial was held for Rosa Parks, who passed October 24, 2005. Rosa Parks was crowned the Mother of the Civil Rights Movement for her individual role and arrest December 1, 1955, in Montgom