Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Wolves were the first communists, or why canines taught hominids how to be social

2010-04-23 Thread c b
You've demonstrated a certain special symbiosis between human and
canine populations through history.  It seems that just as humans have
gotten into feuds and wars between each other, so have some human and
canine populations fallen out at various levels.

Maybe, when humans are hunters, canine friends, domesticated dogs,
might help a lot. When humans aren't hunting as much as a main source
of food, canine's become pets and monsters , dogs and werewolves; or
dogs become food.

For one thing, we might not worry about being too vulgar materialistic
in hypothesizing about the causes of the changes in the symbiosis.

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Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Wolves were the first communists, or why canines taught hominids how to be social

2010-04-21 Thread c b
On 4/16/10, CeJ  wrote:
 Well, same genus (smile). They can't interbreed, which defines a species.

 Actually you could cross a toy dog with a wolf and get viable
 offspring.



CB: Yes, you are correct. Evidently, doesn't have to be a toy dog. By
the way, the test of intra-species is _fertile_ offspring, but
evidently dog-wolf hybrid offspring are fertile. (Horse-donkey
offspring are viable mules, but I think mules are not fertile).

Wolf-dog hybrid
Main article: Wolf-dog hybrid
The domestic dog (Canis lupus familiaris) is a domesticated form of
the Grey Wolf (Canis lupus lupus), and therefore belongs to the same
species as other wolves such as the Dingo (Canis lupus dingo).
Therefore crosses between these sub-species are unremarkable, and not
a hybridization in the same sense as an interbreeding between
different species of Canidae.

People wanting to improve domestic dogs or create an exotic pet may
breed domestic dogs to wolves. Grey wolves have been crossed with dogs
that have a wolf-like appearance, such as Siberian Huskies, and
Alaskan Malamutes. The breeding of wolf-dog crosses is controversial,
with opponents purporting that it produces an animal unfit as a
domestic pet. There are a number of established wolfdog breeds in
development. The first generation crosses (one wolf parent, one dog
parent) are generally back crossed to domestic dogs to maintain a
domestic temperament and consistent conformation. First generation
wolf-dog crosses are popular in the USA, but retain many wolf-like
traits.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canid_hybrid



^

 But there is the physical difficulties of them having
 intercourse. And domesticated dogs' offspring don't make good
 nurturing fathers, a socialized trait that wolves, coyotes and dingoes
 have.
 So there are more considerations than genomes and chromosome counts
 when we talk about inter-breeding (or intra-breeding). You could say
 just as the wheat genome is really the combined genome of 6 grasses
 and the wolf genome actually comprises wolf-coyote-dingo-domesticated
 dog, with a few exceptions.

 So as some have pointed out that is what makes the eastcoast US
 'coy-dog' problematic. However, I think it is possible in the case of
 some sort of coyote-wolf-dog mix taking over new territory,
 considering how quickly dogs that go feral can form cooperative packs
 and how dingoes were domesticated dogs but are now more like wolves
 and coyotes.


CB: Here's some more on what you discuss

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canid_hybrid

Genetic considerations
Many members of the dog family can interbreed to produce fertile offspring.

Molecular analysis indicates 4 divisions of canids:

Wolf-like canids including the domestic dog, gray wolf, coyote, indian
wolf, and the jackals
The South American canids
Old and New World red-foxlike canids, for example, red foxes and kit foxes
Monotypic species, for example, bat-eared fox and raccoon dog
The wolf (including the dingo and domestic dog), coyote, and jackal,
all have 78 chromosomes arranged in 39 pairs. This allows them to
hybridise freely (barring size or behavioural constraints) and produce
fertile offspring. The wolf, coyote, and golden jackal diverged around
3 to 4 million years ago. Other members of the dog family diverged 7
to 10 million years ago and are less closely related and cannot
hybridise with the wolf-like canids: the yellow Jackal has 74
chromosomes, the red fox has 38 chromosomes, the raccoon dog has 42
chromosomes, and the Fennec fox has 64 chromosomes. Although the
African Wild Dog has 78 chromosomes, it is considered distinct enough
to be placed in its own genus.








 I don't think gnats are. I think the birds that come in to feed on a
 lot of the nuisance insects on large herbivores is, whatever the
 technical term, not contentious. The birds know the big juicy bugs
 will be near the herds. The animals know the birds will bring some
 relief.

CB: Well , you know the general term for inter-species cooperation is
symbiosis. There is quite a bit of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbiosis

Symbiosis


Clownfish amid sea anemone tentaclesThe term symbiosis (from the
Greek: σύν syn with; and βίωσις biosis living) commonly describes
close and often long-term interactions between different biological
species. The term was first used in 1879 by the German mycologist
Heinrich Anton de Bary, who defined it as the living together of
unlike organisms.[1][2] The definition of symbiosis is in flux, and
the term has been applied to a wide range of biological interactions.
The symbiotic relationship may be categorized as mutualistic,
commensal, or parasitic in nature.[3][4] Others define it more
narrowly, as only those relationships from which both organisms
benefit, in which case it would be synonymous with mutualism.[1][5][6]

Symbiotic relationships include those associations in which one
organism lives on another (ectosymbiosis, such as mistletoe), or where
one partner lives inside the other 

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Wolves were the first communists, or why canines taught hominids how to be social

2010-04-21 Thread CeJ
Name highly intelligent social species that organize as groups and
cooperate to protect three successive generations in extended families
and clans (one key aspect being nurturing fathers in addition to
nurturing mothers). Humans and wolves come to mind. But isn't even
more fascinating that these two species should be so intimately
involved with each other since the start of 'human civilization'?

The wolf becomes the enemy of humans once humans are with wolf-dogs.
The wolf represents a social top-of-the-food chain cooperative hunter
who is still in the niche we have aimed to monopolize for ourselves
(throwing the scraps to our wolf-dogs) but stands off and away from
human civilization.

Regardless of chromosomes and theories of co-evolution, it's hard to
argue against the profundity of human-animal social cooperation in the
case of these species: wolf-dogs (we become transgenerational hunters,
manipulators and masters of huge herds of herbivores), the 'house' cat
(we can store huge amounts of grain, at least in dry climates like
Egypt, Mesopotamia), and the horse (look how quickly the Mongols and
the Lakota Sioux organized themselves once they had the horses). How
can you care what your ancestors knew and wanted to pass on to you if
you don't give a toss about your own grandparents? Wolves and humans
do.

In areas of Central Asia, there is still this stand-off between humans
and wolves. Wolf packs know not to prey on the humans' herds (managed
with wolf-dogs). Central Asians do not attempt to hunt down wolves in
order to eliminate them from their herding/grazing territory. The only
wolf that preys on humans' herds is the occasional 'lone wolf' that
can not join a pack or form a new one with a mate. This lone wolf will
be hunted down and killed. One method is to use trained eagles who
literally trail the lone wolf from the air until it is exhausted and
then they kill it. I wonder if this is one of the reasons why the
eagle became such a revered animal among North American tribes (I
don't know enough about animal husbandry amongst these peoples, but
the Incans were great domesticators of herbivores).


I am also thinking that the ancients had hunches about social
human-wolf origins.
See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feral_children_in_mythology_and_fiction

In mythology and ancient literature

Enkidu, raised by unspecified beasts, becomes the friend of the hero
Gilgamesh. (see also Epic of Gilgamesh)

The brothers Romulus and Remus, raised by a wolf, become the founders of Rome.

In Turkic mythology, the female wolf Asena finds an injured child
following a devastating battle and nurses him back to health. He
subsequently impregnates her, and she gives birth to ten half-wolf,
half-human boys. Of these, Ashina becomes their leader and founder of
the clan that ruled the Göktürks and other Turkic nomadic
empires.[2][3] The legend has parallels with folktales of other Turkic
peoples, for instance, the Uyghurs.

In Ibn Tufail's Hayy ibn Yaqdhan, Hayy is raised by a gazelle on a
desert island and becomes an autodidactic philosopher.

In Ibn al-Nafis' Theologus Autodidactus, Kamil is also raised by
animals on a deserted island, and becomes an autodidactic scientist
and theologian.
[edit] In modern prose

An early modern example of a feral child comes from Rudyard Kipling's
The Jungle Book. His protagonist, Mowgli, is raised by wolves and
becomes the ruler of the jungle.

Tarzan, raised by apes, has become an iconic hero of novels, comic
strips, and motion pictures.

Peter Pan, created by J. M. Barrie, is a boy who fled to the magical
Neverland and refused to grow up.

Shasta of the Wolves (1919) by Olaf Baker, in which a Native American
boy is raised by a wolfpack in the Pacific Northwest.

Jungle Born (1924) by John Eyton, in which a boy raised by apes in
northern India inadvertently saves a teenage girl from her abusive
father.

The theme of young adolescent runaways seeking shelter with wild
animals and learning their ways is seen in novels such as the Newbery
Medal-winning novel Julie of the Wolves by Jean Craighead George.

Jane Yolen's Passager (1996), the first of the Young Merlin trilogy of
short novels, depicts a slightly more realistic view of such
childhood. Abandoned in a Welsh forest at the age of seven years, the
boy who will become Merlin lives in the forest for a year nearly as
well as its natives, until a falconer who is used to domesticating
animals captures him and begins the long and difficult task of
educating him in human behavior.

In Karen Hesse's The Music of Dolphins, a young girl called Mila is
found after having been raised by dolphins for over a decade. In the
book, Mila is taken to a clinic with other undomesticated human young,
none of whom adapt to main-stream humanity as easily as she does. At
the end of the book, Mila returns to the dolphin pod, showing her
rejection of human society.

In the series starting with Through Wolf's Eyes by author Jane
Lindskold, a young girl's family 

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Wolves were the first communists, or why canines taught hominids how to be social

2010-04-15 Thread CeJ
And here we see the co-evolution of gesturing. Humans have gestures,
wolves have gestures, but wolves do not understand human gestures.
However, dogs do. The example of the dingo is most illuminating:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dingo#Social_behavior

Other forms of communication

During observations, growling made up 65% of the observed
vocalizations. It was always used in an agonistic context, as well as
for dominance and reactively as a defence sound. Similar to many other
domestic dogs, a reactive usage of defensive growling could only be
observed rarely or not at all. Growling very often occurs in
combination with other sounds, and was observed almost exclusively in
swooshing noises (similar to barking). Mix-sounds, mostly growl-mixes,
are mostly emitted in an agonistic context.[15]

During observations in Germany, there was a sound found among
Australian dingoes which the observers called Schrappen. It was only
observed in an agonistic context, mostly as a defence against
obtrusive pups or for defending resources. It was described as a bite
intention, where the receiver is never touched or hurt. Only a silent,
but significant, clashing of the teeth could be heard.[15]

Aside from vocal communication, dingoes communicate like all domestic
dogs via scent marking specific objects (e.g. spinifex) or places
(waters, trails, hunting grounds, etc.) using chemical signals from
their urine, feces, and scent glands. Males scent-mark more frequently
than females, especially during the mating season. They also scent-rub
whereby a dog rolls on its neck, shoulders, or back on something that
is usually associated with food or the scent markings of other
dogs.[4]

Unlike wolves, dingoes can react to social cues and gestures from humans. [

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Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Wolves were the first communists, or why canines taught hominids how to be social

2010-04-15 Thread CeJ
This is an absolutely fascinating page about wolves and other wolf-like canines.
What strikes me most when reading it, is that the sheer utter success
of the wolves and coyotes
in being top-predator in all the places that humans eventually got to.
It also shows me I know very little
about wolves, but they are a fascinating group of beings to co-evolve
with. It seems most likely that the coy-dogs of E. US are not
coyote-dog mixes but red wolf-dog mixes, although the coyote is
hybridizing with red wolves. I like the story of a coyote who made a
point with a dog owner: he attacked the guys shepherd and didn't kill
him, but left him 'emasculated'.

http://hal_macgregor.tripod.com/kennel/wolves.html

CJ

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Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Wolves were the first communists, or why canines taught hominids how to be social

2010-04-15 Thread CeJ
Tie these two sets of information together, and we might be able to
theorize some plausible scenarios for Neanderthal extinction. When you
look at Neanderthal vs. Cro Magnon, you have to ask why in particular
Cro Magnon survives and carries on the human line, but Neanderthals go
extinct. One expert on Neanderthals and Cro Magnons argues that Cro
Magnons mastered fires, burnt woodlands (hunting in which Neanderthals
were better at) which created at least pockets of plains, which were
better for herds of animals to be hunted (and then later managed and
hunted, and then later domesticated). This seems plausible because we
know that MesoAmericans and AmerIndians did this--creating areas for
larger buffalo populations. They later got the horse when the
Spaniards brought them, so before this they would have had to hunt
buffalos on foot with dogs. Another point: burning woodlands drives
the wolves off the land (even if they adapt to prairie they lose their
social cohesiveness and live in smaller numbers) but perhaps helps
turn them into dogs?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neanderthal

Additionally, Neanderthals evidently had little long-term planning
when securing food. French caves show almost no salmon bones during
Neanderthal occupancy but large numbers during Cro-Magnon occupancy.
In contrast, Cro-Magnons planned for salmon runs months ahead of time,
getting enough people together at just the right time and place to
catch a lot of fish. Neanderthals appear to have had little to no
social organization beyond the immediate family unit. Why Neanderthal
psychology was different from the modern humans that they coexisted
with for millennia is not known.[36]

Due to the paucity of symbolism that Neanderthal artifacts show,
Neanderthal language probably did not deal much with a verbal future
tense, again restricting Neanderthal exploitation of resources.
Cro-Magnon people had a much better standard of living than the
hardscrabble existence available to Neanderthals. With better language
skills and bigger social groups, a better psychological repertoire,
and better planning, Cro-Magnon people, living alongside the
Neanderthals on the same land, outclassed them in terms of life span,
population, available spare time (as shown by Cro-Magnon art),
physical health and lower rate of injury, infant mortality, comfort,
quality of life, and food procurement. The advantages held by
Cro-Magnon people let them by this time to thrive in worse climatic
conditions than their Neanderthal counterparts. As weather worsened
about 30,000 years ago, Jordan notes it would have taken only one or
two thousand years of inferior Neanderthal skills to cause them to go
extinct, in light of better Cro-Magnon performance in all these
areas.[36]

About 55,000 years ago, the weather began to fluctuate wildly from
extreme cold conditions to mild cold and back in a matter of a few
decades. Neanderthal bodies were well suited for survival in cold
climate- their barrel chests and stocky limbs stored body heat better
than the Cro-Magnons. However the rapid fluctuations of weather caused
ecological changes that the Neanderthals could not adapt to. The
weather changes were so rapid that within a lifetime the plants and
animals that one had grown up would be replaced by completely
different plants and animals. Neanderthal's ambush techniques would
have failed as grasslands replaced trees. A large number of
Neanderthals would have died during these fluctuations which maximized
about 30,000 years ago. [102]

Studies on Neanderthal body structures have shown than they needed
more energy to survive than the Cro-Magnon man. Their energy needs
were up to 350 calories more per day compared to the Cro-Magnon man.
When food became scarce this calorie for survival difference played a
major role in Neanderthal extinction. [102]

Jordan states the Chatelperronian tool tradition suggests Neanderthals
were making some attempts at advancement, as Chatelperronian tools are
only associated with Neanderthal remains. It appears this tradition
was connected to social contact with Cro-Magnons of some sort. There
were some items of personal decoration found at these sites, but these
are inferior to contemporary Cro-Magnon items of personal decoration
and arguably were made more by imitation than by a spirit of original
creativity. At the same time, Neanderthal stone tools were sometimes
finished well enough to show some aesthetic sense.[36] As Jordan
notes: A natural sympathy for the underdog and the disadvantaged
lends a sad poignancy to the fate of the Neanderthal folk, however it
came about.[3

http://www.swampfox.demon.co.uk/utlah/Articles/origins1.html

Paxton then takes this theory another step forward. By using carbon
dating and other anthropological techniques it is known that mankind
itself was undergoing a radical evolutionary change during the same
period that dogs were being domesticated. We now know that there were
actually two separate bipedal ape species 

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Wolves were the first communists, or why canines taught hominids how to be social

2010-04-15 Thread c b
On 4/14/10, Carrol Cox cb...@ilstu.edu wrote:
 I like a speculation by the aughor of The Monkey in the Mirror (I forget
 his name just now) as to the origin of language. First, he assumes
 (which seems right to me) that the cpacity for language was a spandrel,
 not a trait in itself seleced for. Then he tells the story of a tropp of
 monkeys who lived by a beach,  most of their food was sandy. Some
 infants begin washing it in the surf, and after a time the whole monkey
 tribe was washing their food. It was a pure invention rather than an
 evolved trait, and it was an invention of the young. Then he notes that
 Neanderthals and humans shared the earth for about 60k years, but
 suddenly in Europe, over a 5k period, the Neanderthals disappeared 40k
 years ago: at the same time that symbolic as well as playful cave
 paintings appeared. His sdpeculation: language was invented by children;
 probably invented several times in different places before at some point
 it caught on among adults, at which point it would have become
 species-wide almost instantly.

 The idea of language as an invention emerging from play (which is a kind
 of ritual) makes a lot of sense. For the most part language would have
 been no selective advantage, and perhaps a handicap, for ealry
 paleolithic life. They only needed signals, not symbols. (We are still
 apt to use signals rather than symbols or discourse in emergency
 situations.) And there have been reports of children ignored by the
 adults developing their own language among themselves: it's a real
 possibility.

 Carrol


^^^

CB: My speculative story is that language and symboling was invented
by mothers to communicate with their children, toys and such.

On Carrol's discussion of the relationship of language to human
adaptation and natural selective advantage, I'd say that language ,
culture and symbolling were _the_ major adaptive advantage for the
human species _especially_ in its earliest years. Language may have
arisen as a spandrel, but it very early on became selected for, i.e.
gave enormous adaptive advantage over those species in a similar niche
who did not have language.

On the idea that the early humans only needed signs and in
emergencies, their behavior in non-emergency and pre-emergency
situations are just as important to adaptation and selective advantage
as behavior in emergencies. Emergencies would be largely avoiding
falling prey to predators. But in the role of predator-hunter and food
gatherer, hunter-gatherer-forager, planning is critical, not reaction
to ermergencies. And language would give great advantage in planning.
Overall, all human labor including in that of the earliest humans is
enhanced enormously by its _social_ nature.  Language, myths, stories
about ancestors hunting and gathering expands this social nature back
generations.  A hunting and gathering group of humans has its
ancestors hunting and gathering with them because of language, myth,
kinship systems, and this makes it highly social. The great sociality
is an enormous adaptive advantage compared to species that do not have
this sociality.   The great enhancement of sociality that language and
culture give bestows and enormous adaptive advantage on humans, from
the beginning of the species.

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Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Wolves were the first communists, or why canines taught hominids how to be social

2010-04-14 Thread CeJ
I wrote:However, as the canine research and
speculation gets at: apes are pretty much socially selfish and have no
extended social sense. Moreover, their grasp of meaningful gesture is
less than canines.

This could be a weakness in the argument if it could be shown that
great apes do organize socially to the extent that wolf packs. Now the
thing to remember about a wolf pack is that not only does it take in a
considerable number of wolves, it doesn't necessarily just include
close family, and perhaps more importantly, it organizes in order to
hunt and manipulate large herds of animals for future hunts. I do not
think there is anything comparable in the great apes. Certainly not
orangutans. The meat-eating chimps supplement their diet, hunt monkeys
in small groups, and do not take the meat back to the larger group.
The isolated, vegetarian mountain gorillas look to be the most
socially organized, but I'm not an expert on great apes.

So perhaps another key shift here is how our homonid ancestors out of
Africa became omnivores who tended more towards carnivore. It would be
ironic that dogs helped us to become carnivores (which we now imitate
by mass animal husbandry, culminating in the corporate burgers people
eat everyday). While one of the ultimate carnivores, little desert
cats, helped us to become grain eaters. Now there is a connection
between the two in modern day life because our mass animal husbandry
relies on mass production of grain (100% all-American CORNFED beef),
and we re-pay our debt to the two species by feeding them unhealthy
corn-based dry foods.

CJ

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Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Wolves were the first communists, or why canines taught hominids how to be social

2010-04-14 Thread CeJ
A couple more things about wolves, coyotes and dingoes. The wolf pack
in the wild tends to be an extended family group, but it is also
important to remember it is across several generations. Second, a new
pack of any of these species is formed between unrelated animals, most
usually a male and female progenitor hooking up and starting. I think
it is also possible that packs can fragment and the new groups
disperse.

While evolutionists have argued that one way the Eurasian gray wolf
has survived the depredations of humans is by morphing into the
domesticated dog, the related coyote (a new world evolutionary
development) tends to thrive where the wolf has been extirpated. A
complication on this is that in the areas that are well-inhabited by
humans, coy-dogs are also part of the mix. And the dingoes of
Australia are the descendants of domesticated dogs (when domesticated
dogs were wolf- or coyote- like hunting, herding, guarding, fighting
companions to humans) are now threatened by inter-breeding with
escaped domesticated dogs of Australia, but I would bet the greater
threat is simply human incroachment and predation.


As for the sort of evolutionary pressure humans can exert on such
species, it can happen quickly and profoundly. In E. Russia where
families keep foxes in order to kill them for the fur and sell it for
cash, a pattern emerged: many families would adopt a favorite fox kit
because it was the cutest of the bunch. With the breeding of such
'cute' foxes, in several generations a new 'type' of fox emerged, one
that looked much more like the human 'archetype' for 'dog'!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dingo#Social_behavior

Social behavior
A pair of dingoes

Although dingoes are usually seen alone (especially in areas where
they are persecuted), most belong to a social group whose members meet
from time to time and are permanently together during the mating
season in order to breed and raise pups. Dingoes are generally highly
social animals and form, where possible, stable packs with clearly
defined territories, which only rarely overlap with the territories of
neighbouring packs. Intruders are mostly killed. These packs as a rule
consist of 3–12 individuals (mostly the alpha-pair, as well as the
current litter and the previous year's litter), who occupy a territory
throughout the whole year. However, there are regional variants which
show the flexible social structure of the dingo. Apparently,
specialization on bigger prey boosts social behaviour and the
formation of bigger groups. During times of drought, packs in
Australia fragment and the mortality rate of all the members,
regardless of social status, is very high.[8]

Packs have different (but not completely separate) hierarchies for
males and females, and the ranking order is mostly established through
ritualized aggression, especially among males. Overawing and agonistic
behaviour occurs only in a reduced state among Australian dingoes.
Serious fights could only be observed rarely and under extreme
circumstances. Dogs of higher rank show this behaviour from time to
time, to confirm their status, while those of lower rank are more
prone to show conflict-preventive behaviour.[15]

Bigger packs are often splintered into sub-groups of flexible size.
Additionally, lone individuals can occur in already occupied areas and
can have loose contact with the groups, including participation in
foraging for food. Desert areas have smaller groups of dingoes with a
more loose territorial behaviour and sharing of the water sites.[31]
On Fraser Island, dingoes had pack sizes of two to nine dogs with
overlapping territories. However, they had a very high rate of
infanticide, probably due to the high density of the island's
dingo-population when compared to the size of the island and prey
population.[27]
Four dingoes on a research station in Germany

Territory size and individual areas change over time depending on the
availability of prey, but are not connected to pack size. Wild dogs
only rarely move outside of their territories. The areas of
individuals can overlap. When territories of neighbouring packs
overlap, the packs tend to avoid contact. How big the territory and
home range of dogs are depends for the most part on the availability
of prey. Home ranges are generally stable, but can change over time
due to outside circumstances or changes in social organization.
Individuals who start to detach themselves from the pack have bigger
home ranges at first before they finally disperse.[8]

Territories around human dominated areas tend to be smaller and
contain a relatively higher number of dingoes due to the better
availability of food. According to studies in Queensland, the local
wild dogs in urban areas have smaller territories of occasionally only
two to three square-kilometers in diameter. There, the existence of a
territory of a single dingo could be proven, which only consisted of a
small patch of bush near the fringe of a primary school in the heart

[Marxism-Thaxis] Wolves were the first communists, or why canines taught hominids how to be social

2010-04-13 Thread CeJ
If our predecessors developed full-blown spoken language (from gesture to
speech) while 'domesticating' dogs (from wolves), perhaps we need to
reconsider the possibilties for co-evolution, with one result being
full-blown language for humans. Consider that wolves have a more complex
social structure than the great apes, and they understand human gesturing
better than great apes do. Something has been going on here. Our destiny was
to become post-modern humankind, and the canines became post-modern pets
(and escaped wolf extinction).

http://www.uwsp.edu/psych/s/275/Science/Coevolution03.pdf

excerpts follow:

Lupification of Canids
When we talk about our own primate descent,
about the hominization of Australopithecines, we
are easily led to believe that our ancestors had nothing
better to do than to leave their beastly existence
behind and let those not worthy of becoming “humans”
die out (Neanderthals, bushmen, or the like).
In spite of accepting the new creed of Darwinian
natural selection , we find comfort in our cherished
belief to be fruitful, multiply, replenish the earth, and
subdue it… to have dominion over the fish of the sea,
and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing
that moveth upon the earth. In other words, instead of
seeing ourselves as part of the complex system of
nature, we continue to pretend to be the very crown
of creation.

If wolves could dig up the dens of their ancestors
in Europe, Asia, and North America, sniffing at the
old bones of their dead and the bones left of their
meals, what would they find? How would wolves
view the lupification of their canid ancestors?


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Only during the last
few thousand years did humans propel themselves
in mass to the top of the food pyramid, displacing
the canid pack hunters.

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In a fair comparison, Neanderthals were superior
to wolves only in (1) having greater cognitive ability
and foresight (reflected especially in their scouting
and scavenging skills), (2) seeing better at longer
distances (having an eye level twice that of wolves,
able to cover four times an area in the steppe), and
(3) being able to hit a distant target. The latter is especially
significant in dealing with herds of ungulates,
which tend not to run away from every little
disturbance, but approach a serious predator with
curiosity:

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Wolfkind Today
Once a few Neanderthals had learned to live with
wolves and adopt the pack algorithm (going beyond
the close ties of kinship, learning to cooperate
closely, and sharing risks) many alternative ways to
make a living became available. Within this process
of coevolution, technology transfer and diversification
began to thrive. Humans became better gatherers,
better hunters, more successful fishermen, gardeners,
astronauts, you name it. Wolves became
hunting companions, guards, sled pulls, beasts of
burden, baby substitutes, toys, food, human substitutes
in experiments, and the first “astronauts” to
circle our planet.


Today, man sits atop the food pyramid throughout
the entire world. Reindeer are mostly out of
sight, and of all the non-human mammalian species
that roamed Eurasia 1 Ma BP, wolves were the
most successful in increasing their numbers as
dogs, that is, presumably followed by the aurochs

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Wolves meeting humans in a phase of the latter’s
apprenticeship in wolf pastoralism and, in a subsequent
process of coevolution, wolves becoming
dogs and early humans becoming modern man, is a
good alternative hypothesis to the current theories
of domestication with man conquering beasts, including
wolves, through cognitive superiority and
to the bootstrapping theory of hominization with
man domesticating himself (e.g., BUDIANSKY’s idea
that wolves weaseled their way into our hearts as
scavengers).

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As noted above, humankind separated from chimpanzee-
like tree-dwelling and fruit-eating ancestors
in Africa around 6 Ma BP and moved as true humans
(Homo erectus) into the open savanna. In the absence
of fruit trees, early humans turned into omnivorous
gatherers and scavengers. Thanks to their superior
brain power, they learned to discriminate among a
multitude of resources, to avoid peril, e.g., by carrying
a big stick and speaking softly (at least, at first)
and to bluff the fierce predators into deserting their
quarry.

As cunning scavengers,
they moved into the
plains of Eurasia during the
mild interglacials of the Ice
Age, culminating in the successful
Neanderthal of Europe
and adjoining Asia.

Meanwhile,
around 150 ka BP the
tribe of the legendary African
Eve had emerged, and her daughters entered the Neanderthal
domain. At this point, a strange coincidence
occurred: at some time during the last ice age,
our ancestors teamed up with pastoralist wolves (Figure
6). First, some humans adopted the wolves’ life
style as herd followers and herders of reindeer,
horses, and other hoofed animals. Wolves and humans
had found their match, and “dogs” diversified
and moved into other human