Re: [matplotlib-devel] internal enthought.traits package: a progress report

2007-11-07 Thread Darren Dale
On Wednesday 07 November 2007 3:54:36 pm Darren Dale wrote: > On Wednesday 07 November 2007 03:34:18 pm Eric Firing wrote: > > Darren Dale wrote: > > > I have been working on updating the trunk to provide enthought.traits > > > version 2.6b1. backend_driver.py is running without exceptions using >

Re: [matplotlib-devel] internal enthought.traits package: a progress report

2007-11-07 Thread Darren Dale
On Wednesday 07 November 2007 03:34:18 pm Eric Firing wrote: > Darren Dale wrote: > > I have been working on updating the trunk to provide enthought.traits > > version 2.6b1. backend_driver.py is running without exceptions using the > > traited config package with the internal traits package. > > >

Re: [matplotlib-devel] internal enthought.traits package: a progress report

2007-11-07 Thread Gael Varoquaux
On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 10:34:18AM -1000, Eric Firing wrote: > 1) If an internal version of traits is to be used, how hard would it be > to patch it in such a way that it *could* be used externally? I think pretty hard, but you would have to ask enthought's dev. > 2) Does Gael's version already

Re: [matplotlib-devel] internal enthought.traits package: a progress report

2007-11-07 Thread Darren Dale
On Wednesday 07 November 2007 09:25:51 am John Hunter wrote: > On Nov 7, 2007 1:52 AM, Gael Varoquaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 09:00:23PM -0500, Darren Dale wrote: > > > I have not committed my work to svn yet. I wanted to get some feedback > > > on points 1 and 2 fir

Re: [matplotlib-devel] internal enthought.traits package: a progress report

2007-11-07 Thread Eric Firing
Darren Dale wrote: > I have been working on updating the trunk to provide enthought.traits version > 2.6b1. backend_driver.py is running without exceptions using the traited > config package with the internal traits package. > > Issues: > > 1) there are lots of absolute package imports scattere

Re: [matplotlib-devel] internal enthought.traits pac kage: a progress report

2007-11-07 Thread Darren Dale
On Wednesday 07 November 2007 02:31:47 pm Christopher Barker wrote: > Darren Dale wrote: > > Does the way matplotlib handles pytz and datetime present significant > > complications as well? > > not too bad, but pytz and datetime are already pretty easy to install, > self-contained packages. > > > B

Re: [matplotlib-devel] internal enthought.traits pac kage: a progress report

2007-11-07 Thread Darren Dale
On Wednesday 07 November 2007 02:19:25 pm Eric Firing wrote: > > But not all systems have a package manager, and not all package managers > > have support for traits. > > Does *anything* or does *anyone* outside of enthought actually support > traits now? I know Fernando has said he is sold on it

Re: [matplotlib-devel] internal enthought.traits package: a progress report

2007-11-07 Thread Boyd Waters
On Nov 7, 2007, at 12:08 PM, Darren Dale wrote: >> I don't see the check-then-tarball as a feature, but as a significant >> complication that I have to be aware of when I'm building MatPlotLib. > > Does the way matplotlib handles pytz and datetime present significant > complications as well? > >>

Re: [matplotlib-devel] internal enthought.traits package: a progress report

2007-11-07 Thread Christopher Barker
Darren Dale wrote: > Does the way matplotlib handles pytz and datetime present significant > complications as well? not too bad, but pytz and datetime are already pretty easy to install, self-contained packages. > But not all systems have a package manager, and not all package managers have >

Re: [matplotlib-devel] internal enthought.traits package: a progress report

2007-11-07 Thread Boyd Waters
On Nov 7, 2007, at 12:04 PM, John Hunter wrote: On Nov 7, 2007 12:01 PM, Boyd Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tell them they need a "real" enthought traits package. Then they can use their package management to make it right. This is of course assuming their package management has enthoug

Re: [matplotlib-devel] internal enthought.traits package: a progress report

2007-11-07 Thread Eric Firing
> But not all systems have a package manager, and not all package managers have > support for traits. Does *anything* or does *anyone* outside of enthought actually support traits now? I know Fernando has said he is sold on it for ipython, but I did not see it in the latest release. While I

Re: [matplotlib-devel] internal enthought.traits package: a progress report

2007-11-07 Thread Darren Dale
On Wednesday 07 November 2007 10:08:01 am william ratcliff wrote: > And again, if MPL becomes "traitified", how will that effect users > that need to roll executables for distribution? We are considering changes that would require testing before we actually made a release that would effect users.

Re: [matplotlib-devel] internal enthought.traits package: a progress report

2007-11-07 Thread Darren Dale
On Wednesday 07 November 2007 01:01:52 pm Boyd Waters wrote: > On Nov 7, 2007, at 7:25 AM, John Hunter wrote: > > Is there a reason not to treat > > traits like we do dateutil and pytz: check at runtime if it is > > installed and if not install it as enthought.traits using Gael's > > tarball? > > I

Re: [matplotlib-devel] internal enthought.traits package: a progress report

2007-11-07 Thread John Hunter
On Nov 7, 2007 12:01 PM, Boyd Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tell them they need a "real" enthought traits package. Then they can > use their package management to make it right. This is of course assuming their package management has enthought.traits, which by and large, it won't. I am sym

Re: [matplotlib-devel] internal enthought.traits package: a progress report

2007-11-07 Thread Boyd Waters
On Nov 7, 2007, at 7:25 AM, John Hunter wrote: > Is there a reason not to treat > traits like we do dateutil and pytz: check at runtime if it is > installed and if not install it as enthought.traits using Gael's > tarball? I don't see the check-then-tarball as a feature, but as a significant

Re: [matplotlib-devel] internal enthought.traits package: a progress report

2007-11-07 Thread Gael Varoquaux
On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 08:25:51AM -0600, John Hunter wrote: > I am not wild on the idea of an "internal dependency". Since this is > the first step in providing traitified mpl properties, and users will > presumably want to be able to set event handlers on these properties, > etc, it seems best t

Re: [matplotlib-devel] internal enthought.traits package: a progress report

2007-11-07 Thread william ratcliff
And again, if MPL becomes "traitified", how will that effect users that need to roll executables for distribution? On Nov 7, 2007 9:39 AM, Gael Varoquaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 08:25:51AM -0600, John Hunter wrote: > > I am not wild on the idea of an "internal depende

Re: [matplotlib-devel] internal enthought.traits package: a progress report

2007-11-07 Thread John Hunter
On Nov 7, 2007 1:52 AM, Gael Varoquaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 09:00:23PM -0500, Darren Dale wrote: > > I have not committed my work to svn yet. I wanted to get some feedback on > > points 1 and 2 first. Is it acceptable to use traits internally, but not > > expose it t

Re: [matplotlib-devel] STIX fonts (status with matplotlib)

2007-11-07 Thread Rob Hetland
I have done some preliminary testing with the new changes to mathtext. The STIX fonts and Arev Sans fonts (still my favorite) both work well and produce pdf files that are readable by standard readers (e.g., Preview) and Illustrator. I am using Mac OS X, with the TkAgg backend. Nice wo

[matplotlib-devel] Problem about pressing 'x' or 'y' key while panning

2007-11-07 Thread sunzen w.
Hi, I'm sorry to ask for help as a new user by this maillist. I sent a message to user list, but there is no answer over one week. The problem is: for my code, If I press 'x' or 'y' while panning, the motion still don't be constrained to the x or y axis respectively. The feature is important to