[Mav-user] Use Apache Commons Logging instead of log4j

2004-06-01 Thread Jon Newton
What is everyone's opinion on changing maverick to use the Apache Commons logging API instead of hardcoding a dependency on log4j. My reason for wanting this would be to cut down on the large number of jar files my project is accumulating.. I'd like to use java.util.logging as much as possible. Thi

Re: [Mav-user] Use Apache Commons Logging instead of log4j

2004-06-01 Thread Mike Moulton
There have been a few global changes that have been pending for a while. For instance there was the discussion of repackaging everything to net.sf.mav.*. If I'm not mistaken there were a few other changes as well. Maybe now would be an appropriate time to readdress some of the changes including

Re: [Mav-user] Use Apache Commons Logging instead of log4j

2004-06-01 Thread Eelco Hillenius
That's what I proposed about a year ago, and I still am for replacing Log4J by Commons Logging. Eelco - Original Message - From: "Jon Newton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 3:56 PM Subject: [Mav-user] Use Apache Commons Logging instead of log4j

Re: [Mav-user] Use Apache Commons Logging instead of log4j

2004-06-01 Thread Scott Hernandez
Sure. +1 to changing package names and moving to commons logging, or java 1.4 logging (I think we may have some problems running on 1.3 anyway, or was it just some of our dependencies...). It would probably be good to roll any good questions that have come up on the list into the faq, and document

RE: [Mav-user] Use Apache Commons Logging instead of log4j

2004-06-01 Thread Schnitzer, Jeff
+1 on moving to commons-logging -1 on moving to JDK1.4 logging What problems are there running Maverick on JDK1.3? The only tricky thing is making sure you have an XML parser since it isn't builtin. The only thing preventing a move from log4j to commons-logging was the absence of anyone who actu

RE: [Mav-user] Use Apache Commons Logging instead of log4j

2004-06-01 Thread Thomas Wheeler
I don't have an opinion either way, and no objections to those who are in favor of the switch... but I guess I'm not really clear on how switching to commons-logging helps the jar file explosion. As I see it: Current: log4j.jar Proposal: commons-logging.jar + log4j.jar -- or -- commons-logging.ja

Re: [Mav-user] Use Apache Commons Logging instead of log4j

2004-06-01 Thread Eelco Hillenius
If you'd give me commit rights I would be happy to do the dirty work ;) Eelco (sf id eelco12) - Original Message - From: "Schnitzer, Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 8:33 PM Subject: RE: [Mav-user] Use Apache Commons Logging instead of log4j

[Mav-user] Eclipse plugin

2004-06-01 Thread Eelco Hillenius
I'm kind of working on an Eclipse plugin for Maverick. After making some contributions for the Jetty Plugin (http://spindle.sourceforge.net) I decided that now is the time to really learn how to write them properly. Right now, the plugin does some pretty printing of the Maverick config file, and di

Re: [Mav-user] Use Apache Commons Logging instead of log4j

2004-06-01 Thread Eelco Hillenius
A lot of OSS projects nowadays support Commons Logging instead of Log4J directly (e.g. Hibernate). So, there's a fat chance you allready have that dependency. For Maverick users who want to use JDK logging or some other mechanism they allready have a dependency on, it could mean one dependency less

RE: [Mav-user] Use Apache Commons Logging instead of log4j

2004-06-01 Thread Jon Newton
[snip] > > Do we have a volunteer to do the conversion? I've looked at the code enough in the last week to feel comfortable making the changes.. It seems pretty straight forward. But someone else may be in a better position w/ cvs, etc. I would just submit patches. > > Jeff > > ---

RE: [Mav-user] Use Apache Commons Logging instead of log4j

2004-06-01 Thread Jon Newton
Part of my wanting to use commons logging is to use java.util.logging package. Because we're a tiny company we try to stick w/ built-in libraries when possible. Even though the jar file count would stay the same, I'm assuming the commons-logging library will change far less than log4j? Therefor one

Re: [Mav-user] Use Apache Commons Logging instead of log4j

2004-06-01 Thread Scott Hernandez
+1 on the patch. I, as well as others, could commit the changes and then we can put together a new release. - Original Message - From: "Jon Newton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [snip] > > Do we have a volunteer to do the conversion? I've looked at the code enough in the last week to feel comfor

Re: [Mav-user] Use Apache Commons Logging instead of log4j

2004-06-01 Thread Eelco Hillenius
Actually, the only reason that Baritus has a dependency on Log4J, is because Maverick has (and Baritus is an extension of Maverick). Velocity does not have a direct dependency on Log4J (see http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/developer-guide.html#Configuring%20the%20Log%20System), but it's probably

[Mav-user] VOTE: Make Eelco a committer

2004-06-01 Thread Schnitzer, Jeff
I propose making Eelco a committer. I'm +1. Jeff > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mav-user- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eelco Hillenius > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 11:58 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Mav-user] Use Apache Commons Logging instead

Re: [Mav-user] VOTE: Make Eelco a committer

2004-06-01 Thread Scott Hernandez
+1, then he can put the link up :) - Original Message - From: "Schnitzer, Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I propose making Eelco a committer. I'm +1. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the new InstallShield X. >From Windows to Linux

Re: [Mav-user] Eclipse plugin

2004-06-01 Thread Scott Hernandez
What about using the config file to help navigate to the controller classes. It would be nice to be able to see your project space in terms of the commands and controllers, and then to navigate to the source files associated with them. Just an idea... Also, if you are using xsl stuff (with domify)

Re: [Mav-user] VOTE: Make Eelco a committer

2004-06-01 Thread Mike Moulton
+1 On Jun 1, 2004, at 2:24 PM, Scott Hernandez wrote: +1, then he can put the link up :) - Original Message - From: "Schnitzer, Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I propose making Eelco a committer. I'm +1. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored b