RE: [MDT-OSD] Microsoft, please standardize on a single image management tool

2016-10-17 Thread Keith Garner
Oh, and don’t forget that the OEM’s have another system(s) for imaging. The 
OPK!  YEA!
Now Windows 10 has IN-Place Upgrade mode, but IT Administrators *Can’t* use 
their customized WIM images in the In-Place Upgrade process.
Now Windows Server has come out and *surprise* the base WIM images are larger 
than 4GB, so now we have problems with booting from USB Sticks in UEFI mode 
(Fat32 vs NTFS)
And overall the whole ICD system has been a disaster.

Recall that MDT and SCCM have a lot of *legacy* code still in them for handing 
old OS’es like Windows XP.
Thankfully Vista, 7, 8.x, 10, 2008, 2012, and 2016 all use the *.WIM format, so 
we’re getting better.

But we’re always going to have some “compromises” when it comes to platforms, 
with Legacy issues.
Nano Server, for example, does not have VBScript, but does have Powershell 5.0
Windows 7 has VBScript, but not Powershell 5.0 (it has PowerShell 2.0).
Can we agree to support only Windows 10 and Server 2016 moving forwards?

Yes, we should send a message to Redmond: We would like one unified 
platform/toolset/model for OS imaging and deployment.

https://xkcd.com/927/

-k

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I think realistically, you are correct. I wanted the request to encompass as 
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i like the idea but i think there will always be at least two,
one for businesses that pay... (SCCM) and one Free version (MDT)
unless of course they could be intertwined into one tool that supports both pay 
and free.

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RE: [MDT-OSD] Microsoft, please standardize on a single image management tool

2016-10-17 Thread Marcum, John
+1

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"Please remove flexibility and create a one size fits all solution"
Nope.

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RE: [MDT-OSD] Microsoft, please standardize on a single image management tool

2016-10-17 Thread Michael Niehaus
I think you’re comparing apple and oranges here too – you can’t lump similar 
tools together and claim they do the same thing and should be merged together ☺

Personally, I like the Nano Server tool – more on MDT and Nano Server coming 
soon.

Thanks,
-Michael

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"Please remove flexibility and create a one size fits all solution"
Nope.

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Re: [MDT-OSD] Microsoft, please standardize on a single image management tool

2016-10-17 Thread Todd Hemsell
"Please remove flexibility and create a one size fits all solution"

Nope.

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RE: [MDT-OSD] Microsoft, please standardize on a single image management tool

2016-10-17 Thread Marcum, John
Plus SCCM leverages MDT and WDS which are on the list.

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i like the idea but i think there will always be at least two,
one for businesses that pay... (SCCM) and one Free version (MDT)
unless of course they could be intertwined into one tool that supports both pay 
and free.

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RE: [MDT-OSD] Microsoft, please standardize on a single image management tool

2016-10-17 Thread Daniel Ratliff
I think realistically, you are correct. I wanted the request to encompass as 
much as possible, just to be safe.

Daniel Ratliff

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i like the idea but i think there will always be at least two,
one for businesses that pay... (SCCM) and one Free version (MDT)
unless of course they could be intertwined into one tool that supports both pay 
and free.

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Re: [MDT-OSD] Microsoft, please standardize on a single image management tool

2016-10-17 Thread Niall Brady
i like the idea but i think there will always be at least two,

one for businesses that pay... (SCCM) and one Free version (MDT)

unless of course they could be intertwined into one tool that supports both
pay and free.

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