Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-10-03 Thread Foster, Dawn M
On Oct 1, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote: > > I've been asking the same questions as everyone else. If I get answers > back that I can share, I most certainly will. For now, I'd like to ask > everyone to submit questions to Dawn Foster, and keep asking. Answers > will come - be patien

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-10-02 Thread Michael Hasselmann
On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 21:29 +, Jarmo Kuronen wrote: > > I feel as if you over-estimate Intel's software development efforts for > > MeeGo. > > Lets be realistic, what there is left, really, after N+I has left the > building? Freedom. ___ MeeGo-dev

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-10-01 Thread Dayo
On 10/01/2011 10:29 PM, Jarmo Kuronen wrote: I feel as if you over-estimate Intel's software development efforts for MeeGo. Lets be realistic, what there is left, really, after N+I has left the building? - Jarmo ___ How about the MeeGo community? ___

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-10-01 Thread Jarmo Kuronen
> I feel as if you over-estimate Intel's software development efforts for > MeeGo. Lets be realistic, what there is left, really, after N+I has left the building? - Jarmo ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/me

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-10-01 Thread Kok, Auke-jan H
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Gabriel Beddingfield wrote: > On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Michael Hasselmann > wrote: >> On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 10:13 -0500, Gabriel Beddingfield wrote: >>> With Intel removing the lion's share of those developer resources... >>> it would be foolish to continue

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-10-01 Thread Luis Araujo
On 10/01/2011 11:19 AM, Gabriel Beddingfield wrote: On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Michael Hasselmann wrote: On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 10:13 -0500, Gabriel Beddingfield wrote: With Intel removing the lion's share of those developer resources... it would be foolish to continue that failed approa

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-10-01 Thread George Ingram
as a vehicle for Qt-based products? On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Dayo wrote: >>> >>> Fine... pick IVI.  Pick *something*. >>> >>> MeeGo's complexity ({Netbook,Handset,IVI,Tablet} x {i586,armv7} x >>> {MeeGoCompliance,PlatformCompliance,Devic

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-10-01 Thread George Ingram
eeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products? I consider that a kind of reference UI experience and "demo" is fundamental for Meego. Probably a good starting point could be the incorporation of KDE + Wayland in this area. Also, it could be interesting to talk to guys at projects like Openm

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-10-01 Thread Gabriel Beddingfield
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Michael Hasselmann wrote: > On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 10:13 -0500, Gabriel Beddingfield wrote: >> With Intel removing the lion's share of those developer resources... >> it would be foolish to continue that failed approach.  It sets >> everyone up for failure. > > I fe

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-10-01 Thread Dayo
On 10/01/2011 04:13 PM, Gabriel Beddingfield wrote: On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Dayo wrote: Fine... pick IVI. Pick *something*. MeeGo's complexity ({Netbook,Handset,IVI,Tablet} x {i586,armv7} x {MeeGoCompliance,PlatformCompliance,DeviceCompliance}) was apparently too much to bear even wit

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-10-01 Thread Michael Hasselmann
On Sat, 2011-10-01 at 10:13 -0500, Gabriel Beddingfield wrote: > With Intel removing the lion's share of those developer resources... > it would be foolish to continue that failed approach. It sets > everyone up for failure. I feel as if you over-estimate Intel's software development efforts for

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-10-01 Thread Angel Perles
I consider that a kind of reference UI experience and "demo" is fundamental for Meego. Probably a good starting point could be the incorporation of KDE + Wayland in this area. Also, it could be interesting to talk to guys at projects like Openmoko, GPE, etc to join efforts and to avoid fragm

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-10-01 Thread Gabriel Beddingfield
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Dayo wrote: >>> >>> Fine... pick IVI.  Pick *something*. >>> >>> MeeGo's complexity ({Netbook,Handset,IVI,Tablet} x {i586,armv7} x >>> {MeeGoCompliance,PlatformCompliance,DeviceCompliance}) was apparently too >>> much to bear even with corporate sponsorship.  If you

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-10-01 Thread Dayo
On 10/01/2011 12:53 PM, Sivan Greenberg wrote: On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Gabriel Beddingfield wrote: On 09/29/2011 10:20 AM, Nasa wrote: 1) Concentrate on the handset and *ONLY* on it from now onward. "Do one thing and do it best (tm)". Why would you exclude 4/5 of the people involve

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-10-01 Thread kate.alhola
On Oct 1, 2011, at 2:28 PM, ext Gabriel Beddingfield wrote: > On 09/29/2011 10:20 AM, Nasa wrote: >> >> >>> 1) Concentrate on the handset and *ONLY* on it from now onward. "Do >>> one thing and do it best (tm)". >>> >> >> Why would you exclude 4/5 of the people involved in the meego project? >

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-10-01 Thread Sivan Greenberg
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Gabriel Beddingfield wrote: > On 09/29/2011 10:20 AM, Nasa wrote: >> >> >>> 1) Concentrate on the handset and *ONLY* on it from now onward. "Do >>> one thing and do it best (tm)". >>> >> >> Why would you exclude 4/5 of the people involved in the meego project? >> Ha

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-10-01 Thread Luis Araujo
On 10/01/2011 06:58 AM, Gabriel Beddingfield wrote: On 09/29/2011 10:20 AM, Nasa wrote: 1) Concentrate on the handset and *ONLY* on it from now onward. "Do one thing and do it best (tm)". Why would you exclude 4/5 of the people involved in the meego project? Handsets weren't even the large

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-10-01 Thread Gabriel Beddingfield
On 09/29/2011 10:20 AM, Nasa wrote: 1) Concentrate on the handset and *ONLY* on it from now onward. "Do one thing and do it best (tm)". Why would you exclude 4/5 of the people involved in the meego project? Handsets weren't even the largest part of the project... Fine... pick IVI. Pick *

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-09-29 Thread Sivan Greenberg
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Robin Burchell wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Nasa wrote: >>> So I'll shed some light on how I see this and how we should proceed: >>> >>> 1) Concentrate on the handset and *ONLY* on it from now onward. "Do >>> one thing and do it best (tm)". >>

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-09-29 Thread Andrew Flegg
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 16:37, Robin Burchell wrote: > > Personal area of interest, perhaps. Anyway, we don't need to exclude > anyone here - anyone can come and play ball. In my view of the ideal > MeeGo universe, UX is entirely seperate projects from MeeGo itself - > MeeGo Core is just the basic

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-09-29 Thread Robin Burchell
Hi, On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Nasa wrote: >> So I'll shed some light on how I see this and how we should proceed: >> >> 1) Concentrate on the handset and *ONLY* on it from now onward. "Do >> one thing and do it best (tm)". >> > > Why would you exclude 4/5 of the people involved in the meeg

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-09-29 Thread Nasa
- Original Message - > On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Robin Burchell > wrote: > > Obviously, we'd probably need to rethink some things like project > > governance, infrastructure, etc - but provided these can be solved, > > what do you all think? Can it be business as usual? > > > I be

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-09-29 Thread Sivan Greenberg
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Robin Burchell wrote: > Obviously, we'd probably need to rethink some things like project > governance, infrastructure, etc - but provided these can be solved, > what do you all think? Can it be business as usual? > I believe so. In fact I think this could actually

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [MeeGo-community] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-09-29 Thread Andrew Flegg
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 15:03, Robin Burchell wrote: > So Intel has upped and gone Tizen. What I wonder is: does this have to > actually spell the end of MeeGo? No, but as you address - infrastructure is one of the biggest things. How long until LF/Intel turn off *.meego.com? > Obviously, we'd p