Re: [MeeGo-dev] libmeegotouch in 'MeeGo Core' in 1.3?

2011-05-12 Thread Murray Cumming
On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 07:14 -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On 5/10/2011 2:16 AM, Murray Cumming wrote: > > > > I hope to see some official acceptance for Maalit in Meego 1.3. After > > all, it's gotta have a serious input method framework. The libmeegotouch > > dependency seems to be the only pro

Re: [MeeGo-dev] libmeegotouch in 'MeeGo Core' in 1.3?

2011-05-11 Thread Sakari Poussa
On May 10, 2011, at 12:48 PM, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On Tuesday, 10 de May de 2011 10:42:06 Michael Hasselmann wrote: >> On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 11:29 +0300, Sakari Poussa wrote: >>> That (Qt5) is a vision with timeline. It's not 10 years, it is 1+ year >>> as you can read from the blog. >>> >>>

Re: [MeeGo-dev] libmeegotouch in 'MeeGo Core' in 1.3?

2011-05-10 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 5/10/2011 2:16 AM, Murray Cumming wrote: I hope to see some official acceptance for Maalit in Meego 1.3. After all, it's gotta have a serious input method framework. The libmeegotouch dependency seems to be the only problem so far. But you need to be loud, clear and direct to Nokia that they

Re: [MeeGo-dev] libmeegotouch in 'MeeGo Core' in 1.3?

2011-05-10 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Tuesday, 10 de May de 2011 10:42:06 Michael Hasselmann wrote: > On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 11:29 +0300, Sakari Poussa wrote: > > That (Qt5) is a vision with timeline. It's not 10 years, it is 1+ year > > as you can read from the blog. > > > > These are big and complex things which need long cycles t

Re: [MeeGo-dev] libmeegotouch in 'MeeGo Core' in 1.3?

2011-05-10 Thread Murray Cumming
On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 11:16 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: > On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 01:45 -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > regardless of that, for MeeGo libmeegotouch is not our preferred way > > of > > writing applications, or even a supported one. > > so cleaning that up is a target anyw

Re: [MeeGo-dev] libmeegotouch in 'MeeGo Core' in 1.3?

2011-05-10 Thread Murray Cumming
On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 01:45 -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > regardless of that, for MeeGo libmeegotouch is not our preferred way > of > writing applications, or even a supported one. > so cleaning that up is a target anyway. As Meego 1.3 is planned for 6 months from now, that doesn't se

Re: [MeeGo-dev] libmeegotouch in 'MeeGo Core' in 1.3?

2011-05-10 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 5/10/2011 1:42 AM, Michael Hasselmann wrote: On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 11:29 +0300, Sakari Poussa wrote: That (Qt5) is a vision with timeline. It's not 10 years, it is 1+ year as you can read from the blog. These are big and complex things which need long cycles to be planned and communicated

Re: [MeeGo-dev] libmeegotouch in 'MeeGo Core' in 1.3?

2011-05-10 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Tuesday, 10 de May de 2011 11:29:09 Sakari Poussa wrote: > > "In future version*s*" could be 10 years from now, for all we know > > (given it took 5 years from Qt 4 to Qt 5 already, the latter not being > > there yet). You really think you need to prepare for that right now? > > That (Qt5) is a

Re: [MeeGo-dev] libmeegotouch in 'MeeGo Core' in 1.3?

2011-05-10 Thread Michael Hasselmann
On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 11:29 +0300, Sakari Poussa wrote: > That (Qt5) is a vision with timeline. It's not 10 years, it is 1+ year as you > can read from the blog. > > These are big and complex things which need long cycles to be planned and > communicated correctly. That's what we (MeeGo) are doi

Re: [MeeGo-dev] libmeegotouch in 'MeeGo Core' in 1.3?

2011-05-10 Thread Sakari Poussa
On May 9, 2011, at 4:01 PM, Michael Hasselmann wrote: > On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 14:49 +0200, Carsten Munk wrote: As we know, in the future Qt versions the QtGraphicsView will be deprecated in the favor of SceneGraph. >>> >>> Never heard of this. AFAIK, the scene graph doesn't even exist

Re: [MeeGo-dev] libmeegotouch in 'MeeGo Core' in 1.3?

2011-05-10 Thread Sakari Poussa
On May 9, 2011, at 3:49 PM, Carsten Munk wrote: > 2011/5/9 Alberto Mardegan : >> Hi, >> >> On 05/09/2011 01:23 PM, Sakari Poussa wrote: >> [...] >>> >>> As we know, in the future Qt versions the QtGraphicsView will be >>> deprecated in the favor of SceneGraph. >> >> Never heard of this. AFAIK,

Re: [MeeGo-dev] libmeegotouch in 'MeeGo Core' in 1.3?

2011-05-09 Thread Michael Hasselmann
On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 14:49 +0200, Carsten Munk wrote: > >> As we know, in the future Qt versions the QtGraphicsView will be > >> deprecated in the favor of SceneGraph. > > > > Never heard of this. AFAIK, the scene graph doesn't even exist as an API > > yet. > > What's your source? > I believe http

Re: [MeeGo-dev] libmeegotouch in 'MeeGo Core' in 1.3?

2011-05-09 Thread Carsten Munk
2011/5/9 Alberto Mardegan : > Hi, > > On 05/09/2011 01:23 PM, Sakari Poussa wrote: > [...] >> >> As we know, in the future Qt versions the QtGraphicsView will be >> deprecated in the favor of SceneGraph. > > Never heard of this. AFAIK, the scene graph doesn't even exist as an API > yet. > What's yo

Re: [MeeGo-dev] libmeegotouch in 'MeeGo Core' in 1.3?

2011-05-09 Thread Alberto Mardegan
Hi, On 05/09/2011 01:23 PM, Sakari Poussa wrote: [...] As we know, in the future Qt versions the QtGraphicsView will be deprecated in the favor of SceneGraph. Never heard of this. AFAIK, the scene graph doesn't even exist as an API yet. What's your source? Ciao, Alberto -- http://blog.mar

Re: [MeeGo-dev] libmeegotouch in 'MeeGo Core' in 1.3?

2011-05-09 Thread Sakari Poussa
On May 6, 2011, at 10:45 PM, Michael Hasselmann wrote: >> On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 11:46 -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > >> MTF as a whole got deprecated with less than minimal resources on >> it... > > That's not quite what the git logs say. I count 60 commits for this > Friday alone. Looks rat

Re: [MeeGo-dev] libmeegotouch in 'MeeGo Core' in 1.3?

2011-05-07 Thread Ville M. Vainio
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Shane Bryan wrote: >> Have you checked out the "mlite" library that has some of the stuff you >> mention? > > If you'll look closer, I mention that at least two of the items > I listed are in mlite, in some state of completion.  So yes ;) Dret, sorry about that,

Re: [MeeGo-dev] libmeegotouch in 'MeeGo Core' in 1.3?

2011-05-07 Thread Shane Bryan
On Sat, May 07, 2011 at 07:25:43AM -0400, Ville M. Vainio wrote: > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 8:06 PM, Shane Bryan > wrote: > > > OK, I'll start, but please don't take this list, or my response to this > > thread as a complaint to the change away from MTF, but rather observations > > Have you check

Re: [MeeGo-dev] libmeegotouch in 'MeeGo Core' in 1.3?

2011-05-07 Thread Ville M. Vainio
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 8:06 PM, Shane Bryan wrote: > OK, I'll start, but please don't take this list, or my response to this > thread as a complaint to the change away from MTF, but rather observations Have you checked out the "mlite" library that has some of the stuff you mention? _

Re: [MeeGo-dev] libmeegotouch in 'MeeGo Core' in 1.3?

2011-05-06 Thread Shane Bryan
On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 11:22:02PM +0200, jeremias bosch wrote: > > In general: > Rotation and size/position of the vkb most like need mtf. Also > controlling of the > screen (dim/blank) you need mtf since at least qmsystem2 is also deprecated. > > There might be other things which mtf supports a

Re: [MeeGo-dev] libmeegotouch in 'MeeGo Core' in 1.3?

2011-05-06 Thread jeremias bosch
In general: Rotation and size/position of the vkb most like need mtf. Also controlling of the screen (dim/blank) you need mtf since at least qmsystem2 is also deprecated. There might be other things which mtf supports and no api is around to do it otherwise. (maybe we should start to gather

Re: [MeeGo-dev] libmeegotouch in 'MeeGo Core' in 1.3?

2011-05-06 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 5/6/2011 12:45 PM, Michael Hasselmann wrote: On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 11:46 -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: MTF as a whole got deprecated with less than minimal resources on it... That's not quite what the git logs say. I count 60 commits for this Friday alone. Looks rather well maintained and ac

Re: [MeeGo-dev] libmeegotouch in 'MeeGo Core' in 1.3?

2011-05-06 Thread Michael Hasselmann
>On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 11:46 -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > MTF as a whole got deprecated with less than minimal resources on > it... That's not quite what the git logs say. I count 60 commits for this Friday alone. Looks rather well maintained and active to me (also check [0], [1]) Again, wh

Re: [MeeGo-dev] libmeegotouch in 'MeeGo Core' in 1.3?

2011-05-06 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 5/6/2011 11:03 AM, Michael Hasselmann wrote: On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 08:11 -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: Examples are xdg-utils -> libcontentaction -> libmeegotouch for 1.3, libmeegotouch needs to be removed, so yes, any patches to reduce deps on it are very welcome... Who drives that "n

Re: [MeeGo-dev] libmeegotouch in 'MeeGo Core' in 1.3?

2011-05-06 Thread Carsten Munk
2011/5/6 Michael Hasselmann : > On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 08:11 -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: >> > Examples are xdg-utils ->  libcontentaction ->  libmeegotouch >> >> for 1.3, libmeegotouch needs to be removed, so yes, any patches to >> reduce deps on it are very welcome... > > Who drives that "need"?

Re: [MeeGo-dev] libmeegotouch in 'MeeGo Core' in 1.3?

2011-05-06 Thread Michael Hasselmann
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 08:11 -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > Examples are xdg-utils -> libcontentaction -> libmeegotouch > > for 1.3, libmeegotouch needs to be removed, so yes, any patches to > reduce deps on it are very welcome... Who drives that "need"? What are the technical reasons why i

Re: [MeeGo-dev] libmeegotouch in 'MeeGo Core' in 1.3?

2011-05-06 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 5/6/2011 8:04 AM, Carsten Munk wrote: Hi, I was surprised to find libmeegotouch in MeeGo Core package group (as a dependancy, I think) for 1.3. Is this intentional and if not, is it fair game to send patches to help reduce dependancies to libmeegotouch in the core system? Examples are xdg-ut

[MeeGo-dev] libmeegotouch in 'MeeGo Core' in 1.3?

2011-05-06 Thread Carsten Munk
Hi, I was surprised to find libmeegotouch in MeeGo Core package group (as a dependancy, I think) for 1.3. Is this intentional and if not, is it fair game to send patches to help reduce dependancies to libmeegotouch in the core system? Examples are xdg-utils -> libcontentaction -> libmeegotouch B