I haven't checked them - because it;s easier to replace them than check them
;-) but the dash light still works fine. I do have a cold running
problem - but it;s getting better with driving.
And, I'm in no hurry to replace them - just preparing myself -
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB,
Does anyone know what the symptoms are for one bad glow plug out of
five?
Harder starting. A dash light that doesn't act right.
Do they go bad gradually or do they just wake up dead one morning?
They stroke out. After all, they're a cousin to an incandescent
light bulb. One day they're
Thanks Marshall - I'm planning t change them because I have 104k on them -
plus I have cold running problem I'm mentioned here - ahd you suggested it's
possibly carbon build up which needs driving long distances to cure - which
it;s getting. My wife drives it every day to work - 100 miles RT
Where do we find the fan clutch operating temperature? (I know - RTFM,
but where?).
But it has to be more than hot, it has to be _extra_ hot so that the
clutch will actually engage. This is in the 100+ degree range on the
head temperature, normal operating temperature shouldn't really do it.
What would cause it to run so consistantly low...besides a stuck open
t-stat?
A bad thermostat. (Some fail right out of the box.) An eroded
thermostat housing that prevents the thermostat from working right.
A lying dash gauge or sender, I've had those. Measure the head
temperature where the
Where do we find the fan clutch operating temperature?
I'm not sure, but you could start by measuring the clutch
temperature and telling us all. Give us hours of fun to
have a real number to bat back and forth.
-- Jim
I haven't checked them - because it;s easier to replace them than
check them
;-) but the dash light still works fine.
The dash light doesn't always catch them. For example, I have a
weirdo 190D that had one open plug and one that draws almost
exactly 2x the current. If 2x had not been in #1
Hello,
The wood trim on the drivers door is not tight against the door toward the
rear - I've searched the WSM for info about how they're attached without
success. Should I remove the whole door panel? How can I most easily
tighten the wood trim?
Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91
OK Don wrote:
Where do we find the fan clutch operating temperature? (I know - RTFM,
but where?).
But it has to be more than hot, it has to be _extra_ hot so that the
clutch will actually engage. This is in the 100+ degree range on the
head temperature, normal operating temperature shouldn't
Bob Rentfro wrote:
It never gets to 185 degrees...usually it's 135F.
What would cause it to run so consistantly low...besides a stuck open
t-stat?
High resistance in the sensor circuit WILL cause low temp gauge
readings, but a thermostat hanging open is MUCH more common.
Marshall
--
Jim Cathey wrote:
Does anyone know what the symptoms are for one bad glow plug out of
five?
Harder starting. A dash light that doesn't act right.
Do they go bad gradually or do they just wake up dead one morning?
They stroke out. After all, they're a cousin to an incandescent
light bulb.
Yes. It will be a more pleasant experience. See
www.scaffolding.com/mb. There are plenty of photos of the
603970 motor - the idea is the same. The motor will actually sit on the
oil pan with no problem. Extra blocks keep
things safe.
Regards,
Constantine
You need to remove the door panel and tighten the nuts on the backside--no
other way to achieve this. Door panel RR on 124s is a royal PITA.
Installation requires you to push, pull, twist and say the magic German
curse words all at the same time. Oh, and try not to break any of the
hanger tabs
Thanks to all -- I'll replace the GPs when I feel like punishing myself.
;-\
Larry:
It's really not that bad if you remove the intake manifold.
Ned Kleinhenz
'95 E300D x2
'85 300D
'80 300TD
Bit of both I suppose.
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From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] a crack dealer
Diva or princess?
On 5/30/06, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well we are still in the having to think about stuff like that stage but we
are leaning towards letting them do what they do at our place because they
are going to do it anyway. This is part of the strategy of not making it a
big deal and hopefully have our children develop a sensible attitude
On 5/30/06 8:20 PM, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well we are still in the having to think about stuff like that stage but we
are leaning towards letting them do what they do at our place because they
are going to do it anyway. This is part of the strategy of not making it a
big
Not to be too totally anal about it, but our 1976 300D had a rear
fender-mounted antenna. IIRC, the '75 models still had the antenna on the
passenger side front fender. Randy - am I correct?
The discussion was about R107 SLs. Only. And the pre-'76 location was on the
left front fender.
Hi, All.
My mothers approved method for raising a boy child was:- Immediately after
birth put boy child in large barrel and feed through the bung hole, on his 17th
birthday, drive in the bung! I never could quite convince myself that she was
joking.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Wrestling with a
I know that some Chinese stuff is a bit dodgy but that does not mean
everything is rubbish. I got a Chinese AF spanner set and they are
remarkably good, yes I have hit the things with hammers to loosen stubborn
bolts and also used the two spanners together trick and none of them have
broken.
I haven't replaced them on the 602 yet, but I was able to ge4t except
#3 (I think) on the 603 with a long 1/4 extension, swivel joint, and
deep 12mm socket. It wasn't that bad. Of course, when I did take the
manifold off to shim the ALDA, I took the opportunity to change the
WRONG glow plug. So,
Average: 83.7 percent
1. Oregon 90.6
2. Washington 88.2
3. Vermont 87.5
4. Idaho 87.3 (Tie)
4. South Dakota 87.3 (Tie)
6. Montana 87.2
7. Nebraska 87.0
8. Kansas 86.8
9. Iowa 86.7
10. Wyoming 86.2
11. Wisconsin 86.1
12. Minnesota 86.0
13. Alaska 85.8
14. California 85.6
15. Indiana
My mothers approved method for raising a boy child was:- Immediately
after birth put boy child in large barrel and feed through the bung
hole, on his 17th birthday, drive in the bung!
A quote from Heinlein, though I don't know if it originated with
him or was known before that. Sounds like
Oh, piffle, the W124 doors are the easiest I've ever done. You DO have
to get all the hooks in at the same time, but that's not as bad as
prying off twenty or so Xmas tree oneway fastners!
Peter
BioD *is* different; in a good way.
the flash point of BioD is listed in several places i found as ± 150°C
as opposed to petroleum diesel at ± 70°C.
it's unlikely that regular old #2 would even be a fire hazard in a
leak, and with the even higher flash point of Biod it's
or, How to ruin a 140
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jSdmiYIRGwo
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZBjodvyXBsE
Tom
Ned wrote:really not that bad if you remove the intake manifold
Thanks Ned,
I guess that's the part I was dreading - and getting the auxilliary stuff
that mounts to the intake manifold looks like a bear - all those metal and
rubber lines along with accel linkage.
What gaskets should I have
You'll need the gasket where the cross-over pipe connects to the
manifold. when it's off is a good time to replace all the plastic and
rubber clips that keep the injector lines from vibrating and cracking.
On 5/31/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ned wrote:really not that bad if
so true
Forwarded From: Al Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How many listmembers does it take to change a lightbulb?
One to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been
changed.
Fourteen to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the
light bulb
Just taking off the cross-over pipe does not give you
much room to work with on this car. It's much easier
with the intake manifold off, especially on OM602.962
where the glow plug insertion is in a inclined
position. So you will also need the gasket at where
the intake manifold connects to the
As boy child was pulling into an almost empty parking lot at school (he still
has but a permit due to grades), he whips into a spot next to the ONLY car in
the whole stinkin' lot. As I was winding up a
why-did-you-have-to-park-next-to-the-only-car-in-the-whole-place spiel, he kept
pulling
I finally took the time to watch this.
Totally hilarious.
I particularly liked the part when the chimney flew off.
--
+--
GG
1997 SL500 (104k)
http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm
http://homepage.mac.com/deneals
+--
On 5/31/06 12:34 AM, tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is there a drain valve for the coolant, on an OM617?
My impression was always that there is not, but I just happened to be
looking at something in the archives from the 'original' Mercedes list and
came across a reference to one (with no hint as to location).
TIA
--
Mac
Steve MacSween
Aylmer,
You forgot to mention the several listers that will repsond by saying
you'd get more light output if you used relays with your lightbulbs.
(light bulb s)
Jeff Zedic
Toronto
Hey, let's start another oil thread!
Hmmm.What oil should I use on my KN air filter which doubles the
horsepower
Duhh, we all know that NO oil on your KN will produce the most horsepower!
Better yet, install the filter eliminator kit!
Levi (:
On 5/31/06, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey, let's start another oil thread!
Hmmm.What oil should I use on my KN air filter which doubles the
Steve MacSween wrote:
Is there a drain valve for the coolant, on an OM617?
My impression was always that there is not, but I just happened to be
looking at something in the archives from the 'original' Mercedes list and
came across a reference to one (with no hint as to location).
TIA
Quote
I thought maybe he meant the one under the radiator?
Levi
On 5/31/06, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Steve MacSween wrote:
Is there a drain valve for the coolant, on an OM617?
My impression was always that there is not, but I just happened to be
looking at something in the
that whole exercise scares the hell out of me. Esp when he flew across the
cabin and let go of the wheel.
On 5/31/06, George Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I finally took the time to watch this.
Totally hilarious.
I particularly liked the part when the chimney flew off.
--
+--
GG
in the first part, he says Pouring the concrete floor will weigh about 2
tonnes. Let's see how well this car is made. Pour away.
On 5/31/06, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
that whole exercise scares the hell out of me. Esp when he flew across
the cabin and let go of the wheel.
On
Clarkson gets very, very well paid to be the biggest jackass in Great
Britain.
What you see there is pretty tame, by his standards, IIRC he's been sued for
big money several times for running off his mouth to extremes (he is, or
was, a noted drunk as well).
Mac
on 5/31/06 12:57 PM, Sunil Hari
Then install a hair dryer to blow more air into the engine. You will surely
double your horsepower and get another 23MPG on used air filter oil mixed
with ethanol on your next trip to the dollar store for new lightbulbs.
Mike
- Original Message -
From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Usually, I just stop down to Wal-mart, get myself a propane tank, mount
it(bungee cords) to the front bumper, run the hose up to the air intake and
then open the valve all the way. That's some of the best BANG for your
buck! Who needs nitrous?!
Levi
On 5/31/06, Mike Canfield [EMAIL
Well, just got back from my NC - NJ - NC trip with the 'lockup donut'
installed. GPS shows average speed of 68MPH, max speed of 85MPH (oops :-)),
ambient temps as high as 92 degrees F, but I never saw the temp gauge hit
the 100 degree line, even while climbing from 300 feet to 1500 feet near the
Jeff Zedic wrote:
You forgot to mention the several listers that will repsond by saying
you'd get more light output if you used relays with your lightbulbs.
(light bulb s)
And two to point out that changing your fuses regularly will result in
fewer lightbulb failures.
That gets you back up the mountain from Gang Mills a little faster huh?
Mike
- Original Message -
From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Email lists: Changing a lightbulb
David Brodbeck wrote:
Jeff Zedic wrote:
You forgot to mention the several listers that will repsond by saying
you'd get more light output if you used relays with your lightbulbs.
(light bulb s)
And two to point out that changing your fuses regularly will result in
fewer lightbulb
on 5/31/06 1:14 PM, Mike Canfield at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Then install a hair dryer to blow more air into the engine. You will surely
double your horsepower and get another 23MPG on used air filter oil mixed
with ethanol on your next trip to the dollar store for new lightbulbs.
You forgot
And six more to disagree and say that newer fuses send more juice to the
bulb making it less efficient and not last as long
So has anyone been keeping a tally?
Mike
- Original Message -
From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Knew I was forgetting something...Must have left them on your
car..
Mike
- Original Message -
From: Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Email lists: Changing a
Hi, All.
You have forgotten the Alt. group which advocates the total elimination of
(yuk) light bulbs in favor of L.E.D.'s. Darwin Rules!
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
201 D
201 Dt
123 Dt
-
Be a chatter box. Enjoy free PC-to-PC calls with Yahoo!
I lost all respect for the gasbag when he trashed that Porsche 911 for no
apparent reason.
On 5/31/06, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Clarkson gets very, very well paid to be the biggest jackass in Great
Britain.
Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state
Tan wrote:Check the auxillary water pump located on the fire
wall right behind #5 cylinder. Sometimes it is hard to
see from the top with the intake manifold on.
Thanks Tan - Understand all your comments - but the one above - what am I
looking for? Anything other than leaks?
BTW, what does
In my experience, the stuff from Taiwan was better than stuff from PRC.
Scott Ritchey
Kittrell NC
1982 300SD 220K
1979 300TD 350K
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hendrik Riessen
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 22:10
To: Mercedes Discussion
He plays to the latent resentment in GB concerning their dominance by the
Germans in the auto market (not wishing to start a flamewar with any
listmembers from across the pond, but it's pretty self-evident).
Yes, he has had some hard words for Brit cars from time to time, but he
LOVES to trash
Friend has a 116 with inop odo. Please remind me of name/address of repair
shop.
I had 80 240D and 81 300D done yrs ago; can't find rcpt.
Wilton
I also read his weekly column in the Times. He gets approx 12 column
inches to review a car and usually takes the first 6-7 of those to spout
of on some nonsense. Except for this week when he reviewed the BMW Z4M.
He started in on the car straight away!?!
VERY unlike Jeremy. he also much
Auxillary pump on the OM602's is something fails
occasionally (the one on my '87 190Dt failed at about
120k miles). I believe aux. pump is mainly for climate
control. See
Thanks Tan - Understand all your comments - but the one above - what
am I
looking for? Anything other than leaks?
They very commonly freeze up and stop pumping.
BTW, what does the aux water pump do? When does it operate?
It circulates coolant through the heater even if the engine is
at
Sigh, teenager gets in car in garage, remember you must back car out
of garage and turn wheel fully right to swing into driveway.
Watch teenager spin wheel fully right before putting car in gear.
Sigh should I tell him now, or wait until he rams the
left front bumper into the work table?
No dude, the magnets go on the electrical lines to make the light bulbs burn
more effeciently.
Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
on 5/31/06 1:14 PM, Mike Canfield at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Then install a hair dryer to blow more air into the engine. You will
surely
double your
What about lower case nick when he starts ranting about the Jewish
conspiracy and Bush?
___
GG
St. Louis - Cincinnati
1997 SL500
http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm
-Original Message-
From: Steve MacSween
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 12:07 PM
Clarkson
Maybe all this cheap stuff is not really in our best interest. it is
nice to be able to accumulate all sorts of garbage nobody really needs,
but when you have something you really want, do you go out and get the
least expensive version, or do you spend what it takes to get the right
item?
I
My '83 300SD has either an intake manifold seal leak or the turbo seal is
leaking. I can hear the turbo pressure leak between 2500 and 3500 RPM.
Also, the turbo and air cleaner return drains are leaking drops of oil. I
would like to take the whole mess apart and replace every seal on the
It is a freaking WONDER, Nay, AMAZING MIRACLE that you are still here
Rich. With all the damage done you, any child born today subjected to
that abuse would most certainly curl up and die of impaired self
esteem. Were I you I would immediately rush to become a protected
class. Granted that
I have decided that sellers on crack are not to be encouraged unless
there is a redeeming social cause.With the psychotic response to
fuel costs, most of the sellers seem to thing a three point star able
to use diesel must be worth its weight in saffron. My balancing
reaction is to show
Anyone have experience with this type of turbo leak?
Is there not a big rubber ring seal at the intake to the turbo?
That's easy to pinch (or break off when it's rock-hard!) when putting
that back together. (Think big rubber band rather than O-ring.)
-- Jim
Do trailer it over. Selling a car from the Hahbah will be much
easier. There is a rabid bioD mob on this side of the mountains that
will jump all over it. Huge tank and all will have great appeal. The
new diesels will only show up this fall, and nobody will allow BioD to
be used, as it
Of course, the 140 owners are wetting themselves but this was a fitting end
for an S280. Now what did they do with it?
Very funny.
RLE
Driving home from the Pick and Pull the other day, I was just amazed at
the number of new benz in third tier used car lots. One fellow seems
to have hit the lottery, with seven or eight C and E class right up
front. Even the last option lots have newer mercedes ready to sell.
Did that many
,hat whole exercise scares the hell out of me. Esp when he flew across the
cabin and let go of the wheel.
Get a grip. They weren't on a public road.
RLE
Clarkson gets very, very well paid to be the biggest jackass in Great
Britain..
I think he has worked for every major car mag in the UK. I think I read
someplace that he's chugging down to his local in an SLR now. He owned a new
SL55
but didn't like it much.
Remember trying to kill the 911?
I lost all respect for the gasbag when he trashed that Porsche 911 for no
apparent reason.
That old rustbucket 911 was on it's way to the scrapyard anyway. No way it
would pass MOT.
RLE
On May 31, 2006, at 12:34 PM, George Gregory wrote:
I finally took the time to watch this.
Totally hilarious.
I particularly liked the part when the chimney flew off.
I watched it at about 3:30am. I woke up at 1:30 and wasn't able to
get back to sleep. I enjoyed it too. The French woman
On May 31, 2006, at 12:44 PM, Steve MacSween wrote:
Is there a drain valve for the coolant, on an OM617?
My impression was always that there is not, but I just happened to be
looking at something in the archives from the 'original' Mercedes
list and
came across a reference to one (with no
On 5/31/06, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey, let's start another oil thread!
Hmmm.What oil should I use on my KN air filter which doubles the
horsepower of my car!
Bear grease will outlast KN filter oil 10x.
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
On May 31, 2006, at 1:46 PM, Zeitgeist wrote:
I lost all respect for the gasbag when he trashed that Porsche 911
for no
apparent reason.
He did it for a reason. Ratings=$$$.
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
Gump pulled the no passenger wiper stunt two weeks ago. I tore the
front end apart, found no wiper parts under the vent grill, so replaced
the painted for shiny metal. Went looking under the dash and traced
the actuator thing all the way to behind the cluster, but closer to the
firewall.
On May 31, 2006, at 2:03 PM, wilton strickland wrote:
Friend has a 116 with inop odo. Please remind me of name/address
of repair
shop.
I had 80 240D and 81 300D done yrs ago; can't find rcpt.
Wilton
For DIY, www.odometergears.com
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
http://www.break.com/index/babykiller.html
On Tuesday, May 30, 2006, at 01:45 PM, BillR wrote:
For a time there I wondered. 16 YO took off with the boyfriend and
told a
judge she was pregnant and he married them. She was almost 17 and he
said
that at 17 nothing would be done about BF being
No-the Car Talk guys say extra virgin olive oil.
Dwight Giles, Jr
1979 240D auto, 250K + miles
1990 300D 2.5t, 130K miles
Wickford, RI
Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co.
Bear grease will outlast KN filter oil 10x.
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
Are you talking about the one at the elbow air pipe from the air cleaner?
That is sealed fine, it's a pressure leak, not a sucking leak.
Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Anyone have experience with this type of turbo leak?
Is there not a big rubber ring seal at the intake to the
Hi! Just finished replacing the components of the belt tensioner - took
about 2 hours - removed the shroud and fan then the other pieces - but I
could figure out how to get the upper pivot off - thought it was a allen
bolt but closer inspection says no. But I looked at it closely and decided
I try some, but I would like for you to explain why on earth you would want
to grease a bear?
BillR
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 3:49 PM
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
Subject: Re:
The food costs are definitely subsidized by the cheap illegal labour. It
used to be ,here in Arkansas, farm families would survive on the extra
income that they could make working in the chicken plants ( since they
can't make enough to live on actually GROWING food or RAISING the
chickens and
Are you talking about the one at the elbow air pipe from the air
cleaner?
Yeah.
-- Jim
Gump pulled the no passenger wiper stunt two weeks ago. I tore the
front end apart, found no wiper parts under the vent grill,
On the 1-oh-my-g*d and the 114/5 the thing is inside the dash.
I was surprised to find it on the outside in the 123, you can
tell what I've had apart the most!
-- Jim
I try some, but I would like for you to explain why on earth you would
want
to grease a bear?
So he doesn't squeak, of course!
-- Jim
Gump will not sell. I just can not part with her yet. She is my own
little Pygmalion. She will never be a #2, but getting her closer to
#3 would be fine.
Someday I hope to drag the Frankenheap into single-digit condition!
-- Jim
i'm kind of hankering for a stick shift 123 or 115 car. help?
On 5/31/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gump will not sell. I just can not part with her yet. She is my own
little Pygmalion. She will never be a #2, but getting her closer to
#3 would be fine.
Someday I hope to
I try some, but I would like for you to explain why on earth you would
want
to grease a bear?
So he doesn't squeak, of course!
-- Jim
PETA has outlawed greased pig contests at state fairs and okayed greased
bear contests. So far, its bears 12, contestants 0.
Gerry
On May 31, 2006, at 5:01 PM, BillR wrote:
I try some, but I would like for you to explain why on earth you
would want
to grease a bear?
BillR
Ever hear a squeaky bear?
Some of the oldtimers round here would smear themselves in bear
gease in late fall, don their union suits and
Actually the cost of organics would probably drop by 1/3 to 1/2 if they
all did it!
It's sad how everything has been ruined to chase the almighty
dollar...very sad
Jeff Zedic
Toronto
Since nearly everyones MB seems to be running perfectly with no problems
that need our expert advice, it might be interesting to make a list of parts
and supplies that an MB owner should have in his trunk if he were going to
make a nationwide tour and wanted to do his own repairs on the road.
I spent a few days in Mexico with an organizer for NC chicken
workers [we were both observers at the first multinational multiparty labor
agreement between Campbell Soup and a Mexican and an American farm worker
labor union - a story for another day and forum]. I am near positive the
Yes, I have one. If you get down to Florida stop by for a visit. Sounds
like you know what you are doing as far as the trip. As a bonus for me you
can check out EM while you are here.
BillR
Jacksonville FL
1981 300SD EM 276k, and starting to have some overheating problems. I
think she caught
The cost of not cleaning house is going to far outweigh any blessing of
cheap consumer goods. Round them up, toss them up against a wall and
use them for target practice. Then we can process them, use the stuff
for fuel and fertilizer. When word of that makes it south, there will
be fewer
fuel filters, air filter, some oil, coolant, and coolant hoses. In your
car, change the belts and hoses before you leave. Make sure the A/C is
charged and doesn't leak. if it leaks and you're ok with that, just roll.
stop by in columbus if you're coming this way (and if i'm actually here).
That is now bordering on banned
or should be
On Wednesday, May 31, 2006, at 02:25 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:
I try some, but I would like for you to explain why on earth you would
want
to grease a bear?
So he doesn't squeak, of course!
-- Jim
___
There was some discussion about that a year or two ago. I think the
outcome was to tow a better car along behind you, along with jacks,
tools, air compressor, welder, a drum of each type of Mobil1 fluids, a
tanker for fuel, and a German mechanic.
--R
archer wrote:
Since nearly everyones MB
a little extreme. my solution is to use wallet power and not buy factory
meats.
On 5/31/06, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The cost of not cleaning house is going to far outweigh any blessing of
cheap consumer goods. Round them up, toss them up against a wall and
use them for target
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