Re: [MBZ] OT: Series on Global Warming

2007-02-07 Thread Michael Baker
David, I must have made some sense to you as you only objection is semantics. However, there's no confusion here. Climate is merely the tapestry woven by every day's weather. If one is predicting climate then one is merely predicting what the weather will be like over a period of time.

Re: [MBZ] Convertible?

2007-02-07 Thread Ralph W
I guess I stand corrected.CLK class has a convertable. If you are referring to the Bentley Continental GTC I guess I'd have to agree. Now if we are talking affordable you can pick up a nice used CLK convertible for under 20k these days. Ralph W. '83 300CD '82 300TD (2 parts

Re: [MBZ] Wolwo safety

2007-02-07 Thread Ed Booher
On 2/6/07, John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So all this talk about Asian cars going 100K miles without maintanence can not be true. Right off the bat, you have to change out the timing belt every 60K or so miles. On 2/6/07, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Frederick wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Wolwo safety

2007-02-07 Thread Peter Frederick
Ed: The older MB bodies were dropped onto front subframe (shades of days when there was a full frame underneatch, pre-1053!). Starting in 1976 with the W123 chassis, all engines were installed from above (the main reason for the extra wide opening hood). However, all MB

Re: [MBZ] Wolwo safety

2007-02-07 Thread Peter Frederick
Actually, 1953.. On Feb 6, 2007, at 6:21 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: Ed: The older MB bodies were dropped onto front subframe (shades of days when there was a full frame underneatch, pre-1053!). Starting in 1976 with the W123 chassis, all engines were installed from above (the main reason

Re: [MBZ] OT: Series on Global Warming

2007-02-07 Thread David Brodbeck
Michael Baker wrote: David, I must have made some sense to you as you only objection is semantics. However, there's no confusion here. Climate is merely the tapestry woven by every day's weather. If one is predicting climate then one is merely predicting what the weather will be like over

[MBZ] bent rods

2007-02-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, Cox Auto Trader
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[MBZ] cheap SDL

2007-02-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, Cox Auto Trader
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Re: [MBZ] Wolwo safety

2007-02-07 Thread Allan Streib
Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: However, all MB engine/transmissions come out the top nicely. I have to say that when I pulled the engine and tranny from my W110, it was a VERY tight squeeze. Putting it back, I installed the tranny then dropped in the engine -- much easier. Allan

Re: [MBZ] OT - Global Warming rebuttal

2007-02-07 Thread David Brodbeck
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find it interesting that allot of US citizens (who by the way make up 5% of the worlds population but consume 26% of its energy) refuse to believe what we are doing cannot harm the 20 mile deep ocean of air we have surrounding us. It doesn't surprise me. People

Re: [MBZ] Drive shaft removal steps, 85 300TD

2007-02-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well if they say gmail does not show your own posting thats probably the deal. As for the list settings, you just would log into your options page with your password and you can change all that there. The link is at the bottom of each message. Harry Watkins wrote: Kaleb I am using Gmail

Re: [MBZ] Pimp my Benz

2007-02-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
thats great Redghost wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neghRf8noU4 Dude has this car for sale http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/car/274112335.html $650.00 No affiliation -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel

Re: [MBZ] Are these legit workshop manual CDs?

2007-02-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
MB is not putting out the CD manuals anymore? What the heck are people supposed to do then? Marshall Booth wrote: Euan wrote: Hi there folks These CDs seem awfully cheap. Are they legit, do you think?

Re: [MBZ] Are these legit workshop manual CDs?

2007-02-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: MB is not putting out the CD manuals anymore? What the heck are people supposed to do then? Buy new cars?

Re: [MBZ] Are these legit workshop manual CDs?

2007-02-07 Thread LT Don
New Benz? Hahahahahahahah! I'd rather buy something reliable, like a Yugo. Sad when even the Chinese have a more reliable new car than the Germans do. On 2/6/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: MB is not putting out the CD manuals anymore? What the heck are

Re: [MBZ] OT - Global Warming rebuttal

2007-02-07 Thread Tom Hargrave
Oh, I agree that we are polluting the air and we need to stop ASAP. My only issue is with the current Global Warming mass hysteria. It's to the point where the experts were blaming this year's earlier warm weather on global warming but now that it's actually cold in the mid-west and east coast, I

Re: [MBZ] OT: Series on Global Warming

2007-02-07 Thread Jim Cathey
Climate is merely the tapestry woven by every day's weather. If one is predicting climate then one is merely predicting what the weather will be like over a period of time. Climate is what you expect. Weather is what you get. Simple! :-) -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] OT - Global Warming rebuttal

2007-02-07 Thread Jim Cathey
You brought up the nuts bolts behind what I've been saying, that there is no proven correlation between CO2 levels global warming. A nit: there _is_ a correlation, under question is the causal relationship. As I recall from Philosophy 201 (?), that would be the post hoc ergo propter hoc

Re: [MBZ] OT: Series on Global Warming

2007-02-07 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 21:43:49 -0700 Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a 10 part series on the subject, Some scientists deny global warming exists that starts at http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/story.html?id=156df7e6-d490-41c9-8b1f-106fef8763c6k=0 My word! I had no idea I

Re: [MBZ] OT: German Long Hiar Pointers was Shepherds was battery recharge and drivingwiththe lights on

2007-02-07 Thread andrew strasfogel
OT for cat lovers: You should have Googled Minipanthers instead. You would have discovered Bombays - world's cutest breed of all-black cats. Very tactile, inquisitive, playful, and affectionate without being annoying/ cloying. One of ours does a feline version of a rolypoly on the floor, the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Series on Global Warming

2007-02-07 Thread Michael Baker
I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person! At 04:46 PM 2/6/2007, you wrote: Michael Baker wrote: David, I must have made some sense to you as you only objection is semantics. However, there's no confusion here. Climate is merely the tapestry woven by every day's weather. If

Re: [MBZ] Convertible?

2007-02-07 Thread andrew strasfogel
Mecedes 280SE 3.5 cabriolet is the nicest classic Eurpean convertible, in my book BTW, one of my pet peeves is the 450 SL owners who call their cars convertables [sic]. They are wrong on two counts: spelling and the fact that SLs are roadsters. On 2/6/07, Ralph W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I

Re: [MBZ] Pimp my Benz

2007-02-07 Thread andrew strasfogel
Is that guy a list member?? On 2/6/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thats great Redghost wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neghRf8noU4 Dude has this car for sale http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/car/274112335.html $650.00 No affiliation -- Clay Seattle

Re: [MBZ] Convertible?

2007-02-07 Thread Jim Cathey
BTW, one of my pet peeves is the 450 SL owners who call their cars convertables [sic]. They are wrong on two counts: spelling and the fact that SLs are roadsters. I always thought that it was the presence of the bolt-on coupe hardtop that made it 'convertible': from coupe to roadster and back.

Re: [MBZ] OT - Global Warming rebuttal

2007-02-07 Thread David Brodbeck
Tom Hargrave wrote: Oh, I agree that we are polluting the air and we need to stop ASAP. My only issue is with the current Global Warming mass hysteria. It's to the point where the experts were blaming this year's earlier warm weather on global warming but now that it's actually cold in the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Series on Global Warming

2007-02-07 Thread David Brodbeck
Michael Baker wrote: I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person! If that were true, it'd be an even match.

Re: [MBZ] Convertible?

2007-02-07 Thread John Freer
Roadsters are two seaters, convertibles 4 place. But then, what do you call an SL with the kinder seat option? My 107 and current 129 has a tonneau cover, made by California Car Cover. On 2/6/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, one of my pet peeves is the 450 SL owners who call

Re: [MBZ] OT: German Long Hiar Pointers was Shepherds was battery recharge and drivingwiththe lights on

2007-02-07 Thread Zoltan Finks
Yes, I would remind that breeds certainly do vary within a breed. The poorer, or the less-focused the breeding program, the more the variance. I include in the category of less-focused those that breed for pets and not for the particular purpose for which the breed was developed. Yes, there are

Re: [MBZ] Wolwo safety

2007-02-07 Thread Levi Smith
It all depends. I certainly didn't think the alternator in my 83' 300D was easy to remove. It wasn't THAT bad, but it required a few extra pieces be removed. My Subaru was just like two bolts from the top... The thermostat was easier on the sube since I didn't have to squash my hand in

Re: [MBZ] Are these legit workshop manual CDs?

2007-02-07 Thread jwreames
1999 E300Dt. 8 F, not plugged in, One glow cycle. bump key and let the thing auto crank (up to 2 secs). Fired right up. (Th!)... 1985 300D... well I probably need to go over the valves (7500 ago) and toss in some anti gel... and maybe a battery tender... It almost started before

Re: [MBZ] Are these legit workshop manual CDs?

2007-02-07 Thread jwreames
well maybe. It hadn't been started at all in ~2-3 weeks and it did get treated to 2-3 mins of cranking.Given the price of diehard etc, I'm likely to go to the stealership ($109) for a battery. They have been uprated to 100Ah... -j. -- Original message -- From: Werner

Re: [MBZ] OT: German Long Hiar Pointers was Shepherds was battery recharge and drivingwiththe lights on

2007-02-07 Thread andrew strasfogel
There is only one ethical way to choose a dog breed: adopt your pet from the local humane society shelter! There are a plethora of sizes, breeds and temperaments to choose from, and the modest adoption fee goes to a good cause. That's where we found Woby, a Tibetan Terrier who had the highest

Re: [MBZ] OT - Global Warming rebuttal

2007-02-07 Thread andrew strasfogel
They damn well better NOT contain mercury. :(( My sense is they do last longer, at least the ones from Home Depot. I don't know yet about the cheapies from Ikea that we just purchased @3 for $3.99). Curt - you are hardly a moderate. You are a green zealot, in the best sense of both words.

Re: [MBZ] OT - Global Warming rebuttal

2007-02-07 Thread jwreames
Or my favorite: some soccer mom using her suburban to drive her kids 300 yds (max) down the driveway, only to sit there idling until the bus picks them up, then back up the drive and go back in the house. I see it MANY mornings, and it doesnt have to be any colder than 40 for it to occur! -j.

[MBZ] argh, Wimmins!

2007-02-07 Thread Curt Raymond
So my wife calls The truck won't turn. WHAT? What in hell could be wrong. Well, in fact the truck won't start, she ment the truck won't turn over. Now she claims this is what she said last weekend when the transmission was messed up. Anyway I ask her do the lights come on? Sure all lights are a

Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins!

2007-02-07 Thread Bob Rentfro
You realize this is somehow your fault, right? Bob R. - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 8:31 AM Subject: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins! So my wife calls The truck won't turn. WHAT? What in hell

Re: [MBZ] Wolwo safety

2007-02-07 Thread Jim Cathey
It all depends. I certainly didn't think the alternator in my 83' 300D was easy to remove. It wasn't THAT bad, but it required a few extra pieces be removed. My Subaru was just like two bolts from the top... I've found nothing easier to work on than the Frankenheap, a 1972 200D (W115).

Re: [MBZ] Are these legit workshop manual CDs?

2007-02-07 Thread Werner Fehlauer
I would think that an engine requiring more than 5-10 seconds of cranking is in need of something else - like properly operating glow plugs, or ungelled or not ice-blocked fuel. I'm assuming you've been regularly putting decent fuel in the tank, so that should be winterized in this zone; that

Re: [MBZ] OT: German Long Hiar Pointers was Shepherds was battery recharge and drivingwiththe lights on

2007-02-07 Thread Christopher McCann
Most of the time, at least in the case of working kennels, the breeder will profile you and decide which pup is the best match for you. Yes, that has been my experience too. Chris Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I would remind that breeds certainly do vary within a breed.

Re: [MBZ] Wolwo safety

2007-02-07 Thread Bob Rentfro
Jim typed: I've found nothing easier to work on than the Frankenheap, a 1972 200D (W115). The Falcon,... The thing I always liked about my Falcon was how you could look under the hood and see more driveway than engine. Bob R.

Re: [MBZ] 83 300D turbo.

2007-02-07 Thread Jim Cathey
shafts. A friend stated that he had the boot kits and wanted to put them on. He installed the necessary hardware at a shop, but two problems remain. First, how much grease is placed inside; each kit appears to have two tubes of lubricant. If dirt has gotten inside, it won't matter. The

Re: [MBZ] OT: German Long Hiar Pointers was Shepherds was battery recharge and drivingwiththe lights on

2007-02-07 Thread Christopher McCann
I do think that adopting a shelter dog is a wonderful thing to do. 3-4 million dogs are euthanized in the US every year, which is a terrible shame. However, it is NOT the only ethical way to acquire a dog. Serious breeders, who are not in it for money, but to continually improve the breed

Re: [MBZ] OT - Global Warming rebuttal

2007-02-07 Thread Curt Raymond
Yeah right, good one... Hung out with some newer friends the other night and the skeletons in my closet came out. 2 motorcycles 4 snowmobiles 2 Cub Cadet tractors 2 lawn tractors (for mowing around trees on the farm) Farmall Super M Farmall Regular A plethora of chainsaws, weed whackers and

[MBZ] Don't sell your old car

2007-02-07 Thread Rich Thomas
This is a better way to get rid of it. Caution, involves guns, which might be disturbing to some. --R http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2007/02/car_trebuchet_v.html?CMP=OTC-0D6B48984890

Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins!

2007-02-07 Thread Curt Raymond
Absolutely, one more event like that and I'll replace the stupid switch just to save my own sanity... -Curt Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 08:37:32 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins! To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] Rear Diff Service

2007-02-07 Thread Werner Fehlauer
Donald - I suspect your '90 SEL has similar recommendations to my '90 D - and that says to change the diff lube every 30k miles. I use Mobil1 gear oil. The thing to do FIRST is to make sure you can get the fill plug out - only then drain the lube from the bottom plug. Have a good 14MM male

Re: [MBZ] OT - Global Warming rebuttal

2007-02-07 Thread LarryT
Curt wrote:This baby's warming up. I can't believe that all [SNIP] It's been warming for 20,000+ years. At one time there were glaciers across Kansas! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil

Re: [MBZ] OT - Global Warming rebuttal

2007-02-07 Thread Allan Streib
Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Whatever happened to the theory I'd heard that we were due, and headed into, a minor ice age, except for our human CO2 footprint! The last mini ice age, which started with the end of the midieval warm period, ended in the 1800s. We've been warming since

Re: [MBZ] OT - Global Warming rebuttal

2007-02-07 Thread Peter Frederick
GF bulbs are sensitve to position (they don't like to be base up) and to heat -- I have some that have lasted years now in sidways ceiling fixtures that open except for the glass diffuser underneath, while some in the basement ceiling (base up) only last six month or so. The ones in the

Re: [MBZ] Don't sell your old car

2007-02-07 Thread Jim Cathey
This is a better way to get rid of it. Caution, involves guns, which might be disturbing to some. Just as a quick drill. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Wolwo safety

2007-02-07 Thread Rory
Amen Brother! On 2/7/07, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim typed: I've found nothing easier to work on than the Frankenheap, a 1972 200D (W115). The Falcon,... The thing I always liked about my Falcon was how you could look under the hood and see more driveway than engine. Bob R.

Re: [MBZ] OT - Global Warming rebuttal

2007-02-07 Thread John Robbins
Allan Streib wrote: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I replace incadescent lightbulbs with cf. What's your experience with this? I started doing this, and found that they don't last any longer than incandescent, and are much more expensive, so I stopped. With the lifespans

[MBZ] CF light bulbs (was: OT - Global Warming rebuttal)

2007-02-07 Thread Allan Streib
John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I bought my house I replaced all of them with CF... so I don't have a $$ savings comparison, but I think I've only had one or two go out. Its been 2 years so far. What brand do you buy? I have a few (flood-light style) that have lasted for a

Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins!

2007-02-07 Thread Zeitgeist
I know this thread is supposed to feed into a larger gender stereotype about chicks not getting car stuff, but having worked as a mechanic in the past, I can tell you that there are a vast vast vast number of men out there who are equally or more clueless about these matters. In some way

Re: [MBZ] Convertible?

2007-02-07 Thread andrew strasfogel
Oh crap. So even the W113 pagoda 230 SL is a cabriolet? On 2/7/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Roadsters are two seaters, convertibles 4 place. But then, what do you call an SL with the kinder seat option? We call the SL's rear 'seat' area the 'bucket'. Wiki's opinion: Roadster

Re: [MBZ] Are these legit workshop manual CDs?

2007-02-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
A Yugo is not a chinese car. LT Don wrote: New Benz? Hahahahahahahah! I'd rather buy something reliable, like a Yugo. Sad when even the Chinese have a more reliable new car than the Germans do. On 2/6/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: MB is not putting out

Re: [MBZ] OT: German Long Hiar Pointers was Shepherds was battery recharge and drivingwiththe lights on

2007-02-07 Thread andrew strasfogel
I knew my comment would get a rise out of somebody! Good point about the need for work and guide dogs - I hadn't thought of that. My comment was directed more to what I call vanity dogs, those rare and pricey breeds that attract humans (aka owners) who use them as an exotic fashion accessory or

Re: [MBZ] Pimp my Benz

2007-02-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
he should be andrew strasfogel wrote: Is that guy a list member?? On 2/6/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thats great Redghost wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neghRf8noU4 Dude has this car for sale http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/car/274112335.html $650.00 No

Re: [MBZ] 85 300d cracked oil pan gasket????

2007-02-07 Thread Gary Thompson
Steve, If it comes to that, I've got a brand new oil pan and gasket sitting here. Ordered it from Rusty, but sold the car before I got around to installing it. I'd make you a good offer! Gary Thompson Georgetown, TX 1995 E320 On 2/6/07, Stephen MurD Murrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have

Re: [MBZ] OT - Global Warming rebuttal

2007-02-07 Thread andrew strasfogel
I would hope we have better climate prediction technology and methodologies than those 70s scientists who thought we were in a global cooling phase. Think: supercomputers, satellites, GIS, etc. Our scientific tools have come a long way since 1977. On 2/7/07, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] Are these legit workshop manual CDs?

2007-02-07 Thread Curt Raymond
Your tractor is also direct injected so it'll start easier. Thats one of the reasons that when I build my diesel truck I plan on using a Cummins 4BT... In single digits its been my experience an OM616 like in my 240D will take 10-20F seconds of cranking to start in the BEST of times. At -10F

Re: [MBZ] OT: German Long Hiar Pointers was Shepherds was battery recharge and drivingwiththe lights on

2007-02-07 Thread Christopher McCann
I only recently started learning about how important dogs have been and can be - it is truly amazing. Germany considers the German Shepherd a national asset - they use them for everything. (Germans invented the seeing eye dog). They now even have cancer detection dogs - sniff urine for

Re: [MBZ] M1 Turbo Diesel Truck

2007-02-07 Thread Levi Smith
Also, what about the M1 10w-40 for high mileage engines would this be fine for old Benz' and perhaps offer a slight increase in cranking speed on these 0F days? Levi On 2/7/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saw it as autozone today in the quart bottles, 6.19 each. The 15W50 or

Re: [MBZ] M1 Turbo Diesel Truck

2007-02-07 Thread Allan Streib
Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also, what about the M1 10w-40 for high mileage engines would this be fine for old Benz' and perhaps offer a slight increase in cranking speed on these 0F days? M1 0W-40 is approved for MB light diesels (or was -- would not surprise me if Mobil had

[MBZ] if I die, it was nice knowing you all....read link re: KC chemical plant explosion

2007-02-07 Thread Christopher McCann
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/local/16645161.htm huge fire, lots of smoke over the city, sirens, helicopters, not good. Chris Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2006 GSD, Anke (Yanke von der burg Austerlitz) -2006 GSD, Sammy (Zane von der

Re: [MBZ] if I die, it was nice knowing you all....read link re: KC chemical plant explosion

2007-02-07 Thread Levi Smith
Nice knowing you too Chris. Who knows, maybe you'll gain superpowers... Levi Hopefully it's not REALLY that bad and I won't feel bad making those comments... On 2/7/07, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/local/16645161.htm huge fire,

Re: [MBZ] if I die, it was nice knowing you all....read link re: KC chemical plant explosion

2007-02-07 Thread LT Don
Be sure to sue for a new paint job on your cars. On 2/7/07, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/local/16645161.htm huge fire, lots of smoke over the city, sirens, helicopters, not good. Chris Christopher McCann, Squier Park,

Re: [MBZ] argh, Wimmins!

2007-02-07 Thread R A Bennell
Yeah, and you know, wimmins may have some faults but they are still sort of nice to keep around, don't you think? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zeitgeist Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 1:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List

[MBZ] 126 wheels

2007-02-07 Thread Donald Snook
Someone on the Rusty's MB forum has 126 wheels for sale. They are the 16 inch 8 hole variety. He says that it will not need spacers to fit my car (1990 300SEL). Assuming that is true that I will not need spacers, will this have any other affect on my car - changing from 15 inch to 16 inch.

Re: [MBZ] if I die, it was nice knowing you all....read link re: KC chemical plant explosion

2007-02-07 Thread Christopher McCann
exactly. THe cloud is precipitating a liquid. Over 100 chemicals at the plant...lots of solvents in 10,000 gallon tanks, 3 of which blew right away. CM LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Be sure to sue for a new paint job on your cars. On 2/7/07, Christopher McCann wrote:

Re: [MBZ] if I die, it was nice knowing you all....read link re: KC chemical plantexplosion

2007-02-07 Thread Christopher McCann
plume blowing away from my work and house. good. 1 mile radius evac. Downtown businesses are also suggested to evacuate. highways are packed...the ones that are still open. CM Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As we say at the old Nuke plant, Stay away fron the plume... Bob R

Re: [MBZ] OT: German Long Hiar Pointers was Shepherds was battery recharge and drivingwiththe lights on

2007-02-07 Thread andrew strasfogel
Please don't misunderstand me. I appreciate working dogs because I grew up in NYC with a pet BORDER COLLIE, highly intelligent but perhaps the most INappropriate dog to own in a big city apartment building. He used to root up ladies' dreses with his snout thinking he was herding sheep. He also

Re: [MBZ] if I die, it was nice knowing you all....read link re: KC chemical plantexplosion

2007-02-07 Thread andrew strasfogel
Terrorists?? On 2/7/07, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: plume blowing away from my work and house. good. 1 mile radius evac. Downtown businesses are also suggested to evacuate. highways are packed...the ones that are still open. CM Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As we

Re: [MBZ] if I die, it was nice knowing you all....read link re: KC chemical plantexplosion

2007-02-07 Thread LT Don
More likely, a couple of good old boys taking a smoke break in an unauthorized area. On 2/7/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terrorists?? -- I'm a man but I can change if I have to ... I guess.

Re: [MBZ] OT: A Rant on that Global Warming thang

2007-02-07 Thread Werner Fehlauer
Andrew - and why shouldn't the USA also rein in our own addiction to coal fired plants, and stop this nonsense about avoiding nuclear power Werner - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [MBZ] CF light bulbs (was: OT - Global Warming rebuttal)

2007-02-07 Thread Harry Watkins
This is what I am waiting for, Nanotech stuff. That bigger picture soon will be clearer: PolyBrite plans to begin shipping white LED bulbs to light up homes, offices, street lamps, theaters, hotels, you name it. Scianna said the LED bulbs are far more energy efficient than traditional

Re: [MBZ] if I die, it was nice knowing you all....read link re: KC chemicalplantexplosion

2007-02-07 Thread Werner Fehlauer
PLEASE! Let's stop this insane gut reaction that terrorism is behind everything that goes boom, burns, or floods. We have enough people in D.C. that we taxpayers are supporting that already do that to excess, so it would be nice to keep it off the M-B nets! Werner - Original Message

Re: [MBZ] if I die, it was nice knowing you all....read link re: KC chemicalplantexplosion

2007-02-07 Thread LT Don
Fortunately (or unfortunately), Andrew _IS_ one of those guys in DC! On 2/7/07, Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PLEASE! Let's stop this insane gut reaction that terrorism is behind everything that goes boom, burns, or floods. We have enough people in D.C. that we taxpayers are

Re: [MBZ] M1 Turbo Diesel Truck

2007-02-07 Thread Curt Raymond
Which reminds me, I was at Autozone last night and they once again (still?) had Turbo Diesel Truck 5w40 in stock. It was under $6/qt, 15w50 was just over, like $6.40 or something. I was at Wal-Mart on Sunday, they had just a couple quarts of 15w50 at $6.80/qt or so, no 5qt jugs. In retrospect I

[MBZ] Balls unlock car

2007-02-07 Thread Redghost
http://www.break.com/index/unlock_your_car_with_a_tennis_ball.html Not sure this would work on a Benz. She has dented her little red rice burner doing it. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz

Re: [MBZ] M1 Turbo Diesel Truck

2007-02-07 Thread Curt Raymond
No. The MB approved oils for your MB diesel are, in decreasing order of desirability: 5w40, what is now called Turbo diesel truck 15w50 0w40 Thats it... -Curt Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 15:19:26 -0500 From: Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] M1 Turbo Diesel Truck To: Mercedes

[MBZ] OT Re: Balls unlock car

2007-02-07 Thread ernest breakfield
OK, but aside from the incredulousness that this might work at all, i have to wonder; if you can remember to bring your customized tennis ball, why can't you manage to remember your keys,...? ;-* cheers! e Redghost wrote: http://www.break.com/index/unlock_your_car_with_a_tennis_ball.html

Re: [MBZ] OT: A Rant on that Global Warming thang

2007-02-07 Thread Rich Thomas
That was my first rant on GW(B?), there were a lot of others before I weighed in with a weighty opinion. I think I have it out of my system, and am searching for life. I found some a little while ago, will keep looking. My point is, I don't think anyone (much less you or me since we are not

Re: [MBZ] Balls unlock car

2007-02-07 Thread Rich Thomas
She? Did it hurt? --R Redghost wrote: http://www.break.com/index/unlock_your_car_with_a_tennis_ball.html Not sure this would work on a Benz. She has dented her little red rice burner doing it. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM

Re: [MBZ] gmail post test

2007-02-07 Thread Marshall Booth
Glenn Brown wrote: This is a test from a gmail acct. If this posts successfully, I'll cancel my Netzero subscription and use this one for the list. TIA . . . Kaleb Don. Glenn YOU GOT IT! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] OT: German Long Hiar Pointers was Shepherds was battery recharge and drivingwiththe lights on

2007-02-07 Thread Christopher McCann
A Border Collie in a NYC apartment isn't the best match. At least he didn't nip at their heels...or their butts after lifting their dresses. My Shepherd goosed a lady at Petsmart the other day as she was reaching for something on the top shelf. Pretty funny. Chris andrew

Re: [MBZ] if I die, it was nice knowing you all....read link re: KC chemical plant explosion

2007-02-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I want your SD. Levi Smith wrote: Nice knowing you too Chris. Who knows, maybe you'll gain superpowers... Levi Hopefully it's not REALLY that bad and I won't feel bad making those comments... On 2/7/07, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [MBZ] 126 wheels

2007-02-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
If they are the newer style 8 hole wheels and do not need spacers, they are aftermarket. Donald Snook wrote: Someone on the Rusty's MB forum has 126 wheels for sale. They are the 16 inch 8 hole variety. He says that it will not need spacers to fit my car (1990 300SEL). Assuming that is true

Re: [MBZ] gmail post test

2007-02-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
you failed Glenn Brown wrote: This is a test from a gmail acct. If this posts successfully, I'll cancel my Netzero subscription and use this one for the list. TIA . . . Kaleb Don. Glenn Rochester, NY ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official

Re: [MBZ] gmail post test

2007-02-07 Thread Gary Hurst
see, gmail actually works JUST LIKE EVERYONE HAS BEEN TELLING YOU FOR SO LONG! On 2/7/07, Glenn Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a test from a gmail acct. If this posts successfully, I'll cancel my Netzero subscription and use this one for the list. TIA . . . Kaleb Don. Glenn