Re: [MBZ] Making fun of Freecyclers

2008-10-20 Thread Curt Raymond
Funny I've had thoughts on Freecycle before: http://curtsotherblog.blogspot.com/2008/08/freecycle.html Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 22:35:21 -0400 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Making fun of Freecyclers To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] gas prices

2008-10-20 Thread R A Bennell
I hear that there are plans afoot to improve the rail system in the USA. The idea as I understand it is to replace most short hop air trips with high speed train trips. My elder son is an architecture grad student and a project he is working on is the re-design of Union Station in Chicago for

[MBZ] the bottom has falled out of wagons

2008-10-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have been watching several wagons, and they are not bringing much money right now http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=110299914131ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:ITih=001 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL

Re: [MBZ] thoughts on possible First Amendment infringement

2008-10-20 Thread Rolf
Cut and paste it here and send us the link: http://pastebin.com/ -Rolf Luther wrote: I'm not sure how to do that in Thunderbird... Luther Rolf wrote: Zip it and then email it. Or screen capture. This is your personal email server? -Rolf Luther wrote: That's a good idea IF they

Re: [MBZ] More trans fluid etc

2008-10-20 Thread R A Bennell
Interesting. I had an old Goldwing and shortly after I sold it the poor buyer had both headgaskets start to leak. I wonder if that was an issue? So far as I know it had the green stuff in it. I don't think I ever changed the coolant as I did not have it very long and did not use it much. Randy

[MBZ] ADMIN, politics on the list, everyone read

2008-10-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
OK, have been getting many complaints about the political talk on the list. Effective immediately, we shall return back to the old way of NO politics on the list. Period. End of subject. These sorts of discussions are alive and well, and welcome on banned. If you want to talk about how

Re: [MBZ] More trans fluid etc

2008-10-20 Thread R A Bennell
Second part of all this is - Don't you just hate buying stuff from the dealer? Anyone else make anti-freeze that is silicate free and therefore the correct stuff? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rick Knoble Sent: Monday, October 20,

Re: [MBZ] Wonko's Winter Gasser

2008-10-20 Thread Curt Raymond
Is that a 617 SD? I had several occasions where my 240D (without the block heater) wouldn't start in the cold. At -10F it starts to become iffy. My 190D has no such issues... I use the block heater now pretty regularly, it gets an hour before I go to work. Totally unneeded for starting but I

Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, politics on the list, everyone read

2008-10-20 Thread Rolf
So, how about them Braves? Thrashers? Falcons? Can anyone find me a 123 taxi dash?! -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, politics on the list, everyone read

2008-10-20 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
THANK YOU Kaleb. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD). 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008

Re: [MBZ] Trans fluid

2008-10-20 Thread Curt Raymond
Interesting and I might at least ask the dealer how much for their magic fluid but I would point out that the truck has been fine since Christmas (a little Christmas present to me) and that this same shop has changed the fluid 4 times since I've owned the truck (150,000+ miles) so it seems like

Re: [MBZ] Diesel $2.92/gal in KCMO

2008-10-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
At it was 3.22 on the way home just now. Luther wrote: It's Monday, what's the price? Luther Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: It was 3.28 when I left tulsa friday. Who know what it will be when I return monday. Christopher McCann wrote: Two friends called me today. One to report that he spotted

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies

2008-10-20 Thread Donald Snook
Rick Knoble wrote: Lol. Good argument Esq. Snook. Perhaps you are practicing for trial lawyer status? :) I am a trial lawyer. The weird thing is that means that the Democrats assume I am a reliable demographic for them. I just found out that one of the best Plaintiff's trial lawyers I know

Re: [MBZ] gas prices

2008-10-20 Thread Curt Raymond
I love going by rail, hate the hassles of air travel. For a 300 mile or so trip rail should always be the first choice. However since Americans (north Americans I think) fell in love with air travel in the 60's we screwed ourselves out of good rail stations. Most rail stops don't have good

Re: [MBZ] Trans fluid

2008-10-20 Thread ernest breakfield
isn't more life out of it what you were looking for when you posted? ;-^ since you already stated that you don't know if it's really got 220K or ~160K on it; i'm not making any assumptions. how long should it last? (wait for it!); it depends. some American vehicles are lucky to get

Re: [MBZ] the bottom has falled out of wagons

2008-10-20 Thread Donald Snook
Kaleb wrote: 'I have been watching several wagons, and they are not bringing much money right now http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=110299914131ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:ITih=001 I bet gasser wagons are dropping even more. I would like one. By the way, did you

Re: [MBZ] Trans fluid

2008-10-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I was in a walmart and they had that peak global stuff that is also approved for MB, but its was the 50/50 mix. Now to me, I dont like to buy premixed coolant. Mitch Haley wrote: Donald Snook wrote: You might need to buy the fluid direct from the dealer. You can buy ATF+3 and/or ATF+4 at

Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, politics on the list, everyone read

2008-10-20 Thread Rick Knoble
THANK YOU Kaleb. Dwight Ditto. How 'bout a Banned Lite, with all the political discussion and none of the personal attacks of Banned? Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

Re: [MBZ] Trans fluid

2008-10-20 Thread ernest breakfield
are you going to ASSuME that the shop always (including the last time) put in the right fluid? don't. it might behoove you to check around with a few sources and find out what the recommended fluid is for your trans. i've had to have shops flush the fluid out after they put in the wrong

Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, politics on the list, everyone read

2008-10-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
123 taxi dash, wtf is that? Rolf wrote: So, how about them Braves? Thrashers? Falcons? Can anyone find me a 123 taxi dash?! -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 35, Issue 138

2008-10-20 Thread Dan Weeks
On Oct 20, 2008, at 5:28 PM, Curt wrote: Is that a 617 SD? I had several occasions where my 240D (without the block heater) wouldn't start in the cold. At -10F it starts to become iffy. My 190D has no such issues... I use the block heater now pretty regularly, it gets an hour before I go

[MBZ] This sounds like a recipe for disaster

2008-10-20 Thread Donald Snook
After Kaleb sent the email about wagons, I started looking at them. Here is one that I thought sounded nice - until I read the description. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Turbo-Diesel-Wagon_W0QQitemZ250309717066QQihZ015QQcategoryZ6335QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Here

Re: [MBZ] the bottom has falled out of wagons

2008-10-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I did, its an okie thing. Donald Snook wrote: Kaleb wrote: 'I have been watching several wagons, and they are not bringing much money right now http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=110299914131ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:ITih=001 I bet gasser wagons are dropping even

Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, politics on the list, everyone read

2008-10-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Its possible. Although banned really is not like it used to be in that respect. There are not many personal attacks anymore like there used to be. Rick Knoble wrote: THANK YOU Kaleb. Dwight Ditto. How 'bout a Banned Lite, with all the political discussion and none of the personal attacks

[MBZ] Here's my car!

2008-10-20 Thread Kevin Kraly
It's come up at last! A 1972 220D 4spd with factory air? I can't believe it! http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/885702948.html If only I had a buyer for my '83 300SD! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula for sale ___

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The unlicensed, republican Plumber and tax

2008-10-20 Thread Redghost
While waiting to pick up my kid from school, I was taken by the updated campaign signs for the colored fellow. Guess it was freudian, but read it as Osama Bin Laden when it said Obama Biden. Think I will put up a yard sign extolling the candidate Obama al Biden with a burning towers

Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, politics on the list, everyone read

2008-10-20 Thread Wonko the Sane
I will reply on Banned. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Its possible. Although banned really is not like it used to be in that respect. There are not many personal attacks anymore like there used to be. Rick Knoble wrote: THANK YOU Kaleb.

Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, politics on the list, everyone read

2008-10-20 Thread Gary Hurst
i hope you mean the gwinnett braves by that On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, how about them Braves? Thrashers? Falcons? Can anyone find me a 123 taxi dash?! -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see

Re: [MBZ] Diesel $2.92/gal in KCMO

2008-10-20 Thread Wilton Strickland
#2 $3.80/gal and reg gas $3.00/gal today in Goldsboro, NC Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel $2.92/gal in KCMO At it was 3.22 on

[MBZ] Better 220d no air though

2008-10-20 Thread Redghost
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/885698565.html Does this come close to your price? Not the same wonderful color as Gump, like that PDX car. Still a good looker -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz

Re: [MBZ] Here's my car!

2008-10-20 Thread Wilton Strickland
First car (Year/model) I looked at that made me want an MB; 'bought my first one in Nov 79, an 80 240D. Wilton - Original Message - From: Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 7:19 PM Subject: [MBZ] Here's my car!

Re: [MBZ] More trans fluid etc

2008-10-20 Thread Rick Knoble
Second part of all this is - Don't you just hate buying stuff from the dealer? Anyone else make anti-freeze that is silicate free and therefore the correct stuff? http://www.whitfieldoil.com/downloads/ZerexAntifreezeCoolantApplicationChart.pdf

[MBZ] A Bit O.T. Acura Hoses

2008-10-20 Thread Robert Rentfro
Hey Rusty Do you sell hose kits for my stinkin' Acura? I have two of the wee hoses under the air intake have pinhole leaks. Also, where can get that air intake (goes between the air cleaner housing and the throttle body)? Bob R. '77 300D 197K '87 Acura Legend 197K '05 E320 60K

Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, politics on the list, everyone read

2008-10-20 Thread Rick Knoble
Its possible. Although banned really is not like it used to be in that respect. There are not many personal attacks anymore like there used to be. Alrighty then. Perhaps I will join again... Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___

Re: [MBZ] Wonko's Winter Gasser

2008-10-20 Thread Wonko the Sane
It always started fine sitting after overnight in the insulated garage. The issue was driving 11 blocks then parking it outside for nine hours. It would normally start but it wasn't as easy as I'd like. Even worse than waiting for the car to catch for the drive home at 5:00 pm is worrying about

Re: [MBZ] Here's my car!

2008-10-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
good color too Kevin Kraly wrote: It's come up at last! A 1972 220D 4spd with factory air? I can't believe it! http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/885702948.html If only I had a buyer for my '83 300SD! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula for sale

Re: [MBZ] Here's my car!

2008-10-20 Thread Wonko the Sane
Very nice. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's come up at last! A 1972 220D 4spd with factory air? I can't believe it! http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/885702948.html If only I had a buyer for my '83 300SD! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD

Re: [MBZ] This sounds like a recipe for disaster

2008-10-20 Thread Wonko the Sane
That's an Iowa car. We use lots of road salt in the winter. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After Kaleb sent the email about wagons, I started looking at them. Here is one that I thought sounded nice - until I read the description.

[MBZ] Brake hoses

2008-10-20 Thread Curt Raymond
Gang, I noticed the other day my 240D needs front brake hoses (driver's side anyway, figure I better do both). Rusty lists 2 lengths, 36.5 and 38mm. I'm figuring to get the 38mm, whats 1.5mm between friends? Plus its nearly $2 cheaper (go figure). Without pulling the dammed thing out is there

Re: [MBZ] Making fun of Freecyclers who like JD

2008-10-20 Thread Wonko the Sane
I obviously don't. The second pic you sent looks more like what I see here. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: BTW that picture I sent is of a cotton picker and not combine harvester, I know the difference. Hendrik -- LT Don

Re: [MBZ] Here's my car!

2008-10-20 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Seems like reasonable price too. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD). 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday,

[MBZ] Coolant compatibility (was: More trans fluid etc)

2008-10-20 Thread Allan Streib
R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Second part of all this is - Don't you just hate buying stuff from the dealer? Anyone else make anti-freeze that is silicate free and therefore the correct stuff? Cooincidentally I was just yesterday trying to determine the correct coolant to use where

Re: [MBZ] OT: Money

2008-10-20 Thread Curt Raymond
Loved it. When I was a kid I used to sort my coins into 4 different banks. An old tattered porcelin piggie for dimes, a Tootsie roll tube for quarters, a stainless steel piggie for nickles and I forget what for pennies. They're all still at my parent's house. Now I pour all the change except

Re: [MBZ] OT:Obama supporters go for McCain's policies

2008-10-20 Thread OK Don
Which raises the question of who should be able to vote! It's true, listen to it on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5p3OB6roAg What was even funnier was the one guy they found who supported McCain. He said he was for McCain because he wants to get us out of Iraq. They asked that

Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, politics on the list, everyone read

2008-10-20 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Kaleb, THANKS! Chuck On Oct 20, 2008, at 3:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: OK, have been getting many complaints about the political talk on the list. Effective immediately, we shall return back to the old way of NO politics on the list. Period. End of subject. These sorts of

Re: [MBZ] the bottom has falled out of wagons

2008-10-20 Thread OK Don
Maybe in NE Oklahoma, but here - home of the Sooners! On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 5:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did, its an okie thing. By the way, did you really just use the word falled -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor

Re: [MBZ] AC tools

2008-10-20 Thread Allan Streib
Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I notice that my latest Harbor Freight flier has an AC evacuation pump, a real one, for $90. #98076 I have one on order, as I mentioned a week or so ago, unfortunately they are currently back-ordered so I guess I need to wait until the next boat from China

Re: [MBZ] the bottom has falled out of wagons

2008-10-20 Thread OK Don
Maybe in NE Oklahoma, but NOT here - home of the Sooners! On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 5:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did, its an okie thing. By the way, did you really just use the word falled -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting,

Re: [MBZ] OT - Joe The unlicensed, republican Plumber and tax

2008-10-20 Thread OK Don
Umm - no. In a word, (OK, it's not a real word), medicare. We're already doing that --- Do you all realize what a MASSIVE shift that would be in our government. If health care is a right, then the government must provide it to everyone. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three

Re: [MBZ] Diesel $2.92/gal in KCMO

2008-10-20 Thread OK Don
One station had #2 at $3.20 and reg gas at $2.30 tonight. Another one (that is usually 10 to 20 cents higher than everyone else) had #2 at $3.10. I'm waiting till tomorrow to fill - see what #2 is going for then (and pay it). On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] Here's my car!

2008-10-20 Thread OK Don
What? You need at LEAST two MBs! An opportunity like this doesn't happen all that often (do check the heater fan though)! Too bad it doesn't have the column 4 speed - in a perverse kind of way, I enjoyed that on my '70 220D. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Here's my car!

2008-10-20 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 7:25 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What? You need at LEAST two MBs! An opportunity like this doesn't happen all that often (do check the heater fan though)! The heater blower is the first thing I thought of when I read the phrase needs minor tinkering in the ad.

Re: [MBZ] MB wiper blade inserts?

2008-10-20 Thread harry watkins
Thanks Wilton, I did it right by mistake, but I'll take it.:) Harry - Original Message - From: Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB wiper blade inserts? The stainless

[MBZ] Wet Citation/seen before

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Re: [MBZ] Here's my car!

2008-10-20 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Hey Kevin. The pictures are from January 1, 2005 That's almost 4 years old.. Oh, he could always claim he never set the calendar in his digital camera. Nevertheless, it is a nice looking car... Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Oct 20, 2008, at 4:19 PM, Kevin Kraly

Re: [MBZ] Our Entitlement Culture

2008-10-20 Thread Jim Cathey
The same goes for my sister in law. She makes to much to qualify her kids for govt insurance, but doesn't make enough to pay the bills and insurance. Step functions suck. They just do. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list

[MBZ] Awl

2008-10-20 Thread Jim Cathey
Liquidation World just got in a McParts collection, so I went shopping. Besides getting an oil filter for Big Bertha, I nabbed all three bottles of M1 gear oil, which was (mis-?)marked $5 each, and it was 40% off of that. I also bought a bottle of M1 0W20, for use in clocks or the like. And a

Re: [MBZ] Awl

2008-10-20 Thread Kevin
Interesting data point: due to the size of the fleet (which you can appreciate), I have been getting delo 400 in 5 gallon buckets from a chevron distributor. In my case, it worked out cheaper per gallon than the six gallon box at costco. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:01:03PM -0700, Jim Cathey

Re: [MBZ] OT: Amtrak

2008-10-20 Thread Christopher McCann
Pretty close, but worse. It is an unmanned station. There is a building, about 90 years old that is locked up...so you just wait along the tracks...out in the elements. There is no platform, so your picture is pretty accurate as far as that goes. Chris

Re: [MBZ] MB wiper blade inserts?

2008-10-20 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Harry, The curve on the metal strips is away from the windshield. Seems counterintuitive, but that the way it is. The notches fit behind the tit's on the end of the wiper arm facing toward the windshield. So you have to figure out the curve is away from the windshield and the notches

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