Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper

2008-12-03 Thread John Freer
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:10 PM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Freer wrote: That's a good idea Allan. Also helps keep the carbon buildup at bay. I miss that feature on the CDI. At 35 mph around town and I want to shift down to 4th, it goes right down to 2nd as I have no control

Re: [MBZ] OT: Wireless bridge

2008-12-03 Thread Luther
I would NOT buy Linksys for this, buy USR. My connection at the house is a shared connection with my neighbor. He is about 500' south of me, with 4-5 large oak trees, 2 outside walls, and 3 interior walls in between our USR access points. We started the connection with a Linksys on his end,

[MBZ] GM downsizing

2008-12-03 Thread Tony Wirtel
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Wow so some places will have an awful surplus of Chevy dealers? Mac not for long. Plan is to drop

Re: [MBZ] GM downsizing

2008-12-03 Thread pm7088
Long standing Chebby and seperate Chrysler dealers in my town are gone. They were both decent to deal with. Ford guy is hanging on, does a lot of service. Pete -- Original message -- From: Tony Wirtel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus

Re: [MBZ] M1 ATF in PS Pmp...coinkydink?

2008-12-03 Thread Curt Raymond
I had a similar problem on my '85 190D. The replacement doesn't leak a bit... I think its like Marshall said, you were due for a leak anyway. M1 may have hastened the leak's arrival but it was going to leak anyway... -Curt Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 21:31:28 -0700 From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] OT Dodge Caravan 3.3L V-6 engine

2008-12-03 Thread Loren Faeth
It is a 2000. The crank sensor at NAPA was $60 Quite a difference! I made sure I could take it back if I found a better deal. At 10:20 PM 12/2/2008, you wrote: I forget what year you have. I punched up 2002 at rockauto.com and they had three crank position sensors. Standard Motor Products

Re: [MBZ] OT Dodge Caravan 3.3L V-6 engine

2008-12-03 Thread Loren Faeth
Thank you kindly! Borg used to be a good name, but like Zenith, the name now has no relationship to the old name. At 10:49 PM 12/2/2008, you wrote: At 10:39 PM 12/2/2008, you wrote: Fred, .. Do you know what the bad new ones you bought looked like? The one from NAPA has one ear

Re: [MBZ] OT Dodge Caravan 3.3L V-6 engine

2008-12-03 Thread Loren Faeth
Mitch, From the same source: This is a 3.3 flex fuel. High is $91 and low is $37. I think I will just stick with the echlin one unless I can find a used one . I am going to try to install it today if the snow is not too deep. STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS Part # PC160 More Info {CRANKSHAFT

Re: [MBZ] OT Dodge Caravan 3.3L V-6 engine

2008-12-03 Thread Mitch Haley
Loren Faeth wrote: It is a 2000. The crank sensor at NAPA was $60 Quite a difference! I made sure I could take it back if I found a better deal. Should have bought a 2002. The year 2000 CPS at Rockauto is $36.79 for Standard, $38.79 for Airtex, and $91.79 for Delphi. Shipping is probably

Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper

2008-12-03 Thread Donald Snook
Kaleb wrote: do they not make olds anymore? I assume you are kidding. Otherwise, you can't possibly claim to be knowledgeable in the car business. In case you are not kidding, yes, GM ended the Oldsmobile division in December of 2000 (which precipitated my desire to go to Law school).

Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper

2008-12-03 Thread Donald Snook
Rusty wrote: They are killing Pontiac next. I have heard that rumor since they killed Oldsmobile. If GM were to shut down one of its divisions, my opinion is that it would be Buick not Pontiac. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used

Re: [MBZ] Next car

2008-12-03 Thread Donald Snook
Randy wrote: Boy, when I saw next car I just assumed it was Snook again. Not yet, I still love the Cadillac. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper

2008-12-03 Thread Allan Streib
Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Rusty wrote: They are killing Pontiac next. I have heard that rumor since they killed Oldsmobile. If GM were to shut down one of its divisions, my opinion is that it would be Buick not Pontiac. My opinion is that all those divisions are part of their

Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper

2008-12-03 Thread Loren Faeth
If they shut down Buick, what would all the greyhairs drive? I see a LOT more Bricks on the road than Ponchos. If I were running GM, I'd close Brick, Poncho and Jimmy At 08:20 AM 12/3/2008, you wrote: Rusty wrote: They are killing Pontiac next. I have heard that rumor since they killed

Re: [MBZ] OT Dodge Caravan 3.3L V-6 engine

2008-12-03 Thread Loren Faeth
I am starting to look for a 2002 at kleb prices. Actually, I want to buy one for about $3k According to the book mine is worth about 3k. I am guessing the hard cider sprayed all over the headliner might bring down the value some... At 08:19 AM 12/3/2008, you wrote: Loren Faeth wrote: It

Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper

2008-12-03 Thread Loren Faeth
I agree, then when the economy rebounds, they could do like Toada, and take a chevy, put a gold colored logo on it and change the interior a little and call it a luxury Chevus, and sell them for $5000 to $10,000 more. Or they could call it a Lexolet My opinion is that all those divisions

Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper

2008-12-03 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: My opinion is that all those divisions are part of their problem. They should have one car/truck division, Chevrolet, and one luxury division, Cadillac. I think Buick should have been the first to go. Pontiac has been the excitement division, with Firebird, Fiero,

Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper

2008-12-03 Thread Allan Streib
Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: GMC has been pointless for years, Chevy trucks have plenty of trim levels to choose from. In the light truck market I agree, though I think GMC has a heavy/commercial market that I'm not sure Chevy competes in. Allan

Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper

2008-12-03 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: In the light truck market I agree, though I think GMC has a heavy/commercial market that I'm not sure Chevy competes in. I'm not sure what the entire lineup includes, but a Chevy Kodiak and GMC Topkick are still the same thing, and they both have W-series and T-series

Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper

2008-12-03 Thread Allan Streib
Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I'm not sure what the entire lineup includes, but a Chevy Kodiak and GMC Topkick are still the same thing, and they both have W-series and T-series medium duty truck lines. http://www.chevrolet.com/mediumduty/ http://www.gmc.com/mediumduty/index.jsp

[MBZ] Tools at Lowes

2008-12-03 Thread Rich Thomas
Lowes has some good deals on tools until Dec 8. 3-pack of Kobalt slip joint pliers (nice rubber handles), 4 pack of locking pliers, and some others, for $10. I kinda like their tools, the handles are easy on the hands, and they seem pretty solid. Better than the HF stuff, prices not much

Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper

2008-12-03 Thread Loren Faeth
GMC Truck was merged with White years ago. Volvo bought White GMC. White used to make Freightliner, and when Freightliner went independent, White struggled. DB courted White for a while, but failed to buy White. White then merged with GMC. Ford sold the Louisville line to DB, and it was

Re: [MBZ] Tools at Lowes

2008-12-03 Thread Loren Faeth
I never look at lowes tools anymore. They have always been high priced. I guess they changed to a chinese supplier. Maybe I should look again. At 09:51 AM 12/3/2008, you wrote: Lowes has some good deals on tools until Dec 8. 3-pack of Kobalt slip joint pliers (nice rubber handles), 4 pack

Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper

2008-12-03 Thread Curt Raymond
The problem is nostalga doesn't sell cars. Why did I want an Allero vs a Grand Am? More currently why would I buy a GMC vs a Chevy? I can work a Chevy dealership vs a GMC dealership over price... Olds took sales away from Cadillac and Buick. Pontiac takes sales away from Chevrolet and Buick

Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper

2008-12-03 Thread Curt Raymond
Gotta have a hip and trendy line too, Scion has made Toyota a bunch of money. Saturn used to be hip and trendy... -Curt Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 09:27:30 -0500 From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper

2008-12-03 Thread Donald Snook
Loren wrote: If I were running GM, I'd close Brick, Poncho and Jimmy By jimmy do you mean GMC Truck? That would be a HUGE mistake. GMC and Chevy trucks have been one of the few bright spots for GM in the last decade or so. The GMC trucks are more profitable than Chevy. The trucks and SUV's

Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper

2008-12-03 Thread Donald Snook
Mitch wrote: Now that it's GMC, Chevy, Caddy, Buick and Pontiac, I'd say dump Buick, let the fogies decide if they want to buy downmarket Chevy or upmarket Caddy. Keep Pontiac, concentrating on keeping the styling fresh and try to give the Pontiacs a bit more performance than the Chevys. Don't

Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper

2008-12-03 Thread Allan Streib
Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Gotta have a hip and trendy line too, Scion has made Toyota a bunch of money. You really think the name, and not the vehicle, is what made the difference? The box on wheels thing would not have done well if it had a Toyota badge? Allan -- 1983 300d

Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper

2008-12-03 Thread Allan Streib
Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Don't forget about Saturn. The new Aura (really just a Us version of the Opel) was supposed to rejuvenate GM. Is that what that is? Why not say so? Invent a new name, nobody knows WTF it is. I drove an Open Corsa in Denmark last time I was there, a very

Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper

2008-12-03 Thread pm7088
Anybody remember what the functional difference between a Chevy and GMC truck was 60 years ago? Hint; What made GMC a 'Premium' Chevrolet? Pete -- Original message -- From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] GMC Truck was merged with White years ago. Volvo bought

[MBZ] If I were running GM . . .

2008-12-03 Thread Donald Snook
Loren wrote: If I were running GM, I'd close Brick, Poncho and Jimmy If I were running GM, I would give up on this bailout nonsense and go for Bankruptcy. Really. If they took this course, they could break all of the Union contracts that are killing GM. They could cut wages, cut out the health

Re: [MBZ] If I were running GM . . .

2008-12-03 Thread Allan Streib
Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: If I were running GM, I would give up on this bailout nonsense and go for Bankruptcy. Really. If they took this course, they could break all of the Union contracts that are killing GM. They could cut wages, cut out the health care for life, the fairly

Re: [MBZ] If I were running GM . . .

2008-12-03 Thread Rich Thomas
But we need to support the UAW members who have worked and are working so hard for their pay and benefits! Are you forgetting these people? --R Allan Streib wrote: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: If I were running GM, I would give up on this bailout nonsense and go for Bankruptcy.

Re: [MBZ] If I were running GM . . .

2008-12-03 Thread Allan Streib
Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: But we need to support the UAW members who have worked and are working so hard for their pay and benefits! Are you forgetting these people? Oh I forgot, it's OK to take my pay and benefits so that someone else who's ALREADY BEEN PAID for their work can

Re: [MBZ] If I were running GM . . .

2008-12-03 Thread E M
Trying to. hee hee. Ed 300E 2008/12/3 Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] But we need to support the UAW members who have worked and are working so hard for their pay and benefits! Are you forgetting these people? --R Allan Streib wrote: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: If I were

Re: [MBZ] If I were running GM . . .

2008-12-03 Thread Rich Thomas
http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2008/12/02/mean-street-why-gm-is-doomed/ Allan Streib wrote: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: But we need to support the UAW members who have worked and are working so hard for their pay and benefits! Are you forgetting these people? Oh I forgot, it's

Re: [MBZ] If I were running GM . . .

2008-12-03 Thread Gary Hurst
i don't think anyone wants change, snook. they just want business as usual and would like someone else to supply the money. On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Loren wrote: If I were running GM, I'd close Brick, Poncho and Jimmy If I were running GM, I would

Re: [MBZ] Next car

2008-12-03 Thread andrew strasfogel
It will be interesting to learn what the maintenance costs are... On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 9:21 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Randy wrote: Boy, when I saw next car I just assumed it was Snook again. Not yet, I still love the Cadillac. Donald H. Snook

Re: [MBZ] Tools at Lowes

2008-12-03 Thread andrew strasfogel
Home Despot had some pretty amazing bargains in their main aisle (not the tool corral). Like std. or metric ratchet sets for $10 or a nice little stubby combo (1/4 and 3/8 drive)ratchet for $5. Great quality, too. On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I never

Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper

2008-12-03 Thread Donald Snook
Loren wrote: the light and medium Chev/GMC trucks are the same except the badges. That is not quite true. There are some GMC only features and options. But, you are right for the most part, they are identical. One other difference is the dealership. When we had GMC, we had customers who

Re: [MBZ] Just another day...

2008-12-03 Thread andrew strasfogel
Well, if it doesn't come this week I guess that means it's still sitting in OK. On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Yea, I said I would andrew strasfogel wrote: Kaleb, you were going to check whether the SR I ordered had been shipped. On Tue, Dec 2,

Re: [MBZ] Next car

2008-12-03 Thread Donald Snook
Andrew wrote: It will be interesting to learn what the maintenance costs are... It will be interesting, you are right. But, I suspect it will be interesting in the sense that maintenance is lower than expected. The one common failure on the 4.9 L engine in my car is the water pump - which

Re: [MBZ] Next car

2008-12-03 Thread Allan Streib
Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: GM Coolant pellets ?? what are these? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] Tools at Lowes

2008-12-03 Thread Rich Thomas
I quit going to HD a few years ago after they refused to replace a lifetime guarantee router bit (satisfaction guaranteed! free replacement!), $20, and the parking lot started filling up with nails and trash (cutback on sweeping) and Mexicans aggressively begging for work. I took my

[MBZ] OT Andrew's recycling

2008-12-03 Thread Rich Thomas
I think you need to add worms as an intermediate step. They love coffee grounds and whatever else. I found my compost bin full of them the other day, I guess in there keeping warm. http://www.terracycle.net/story.htm --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For

Re: [MBZ] If I were running GM . . .

2008-12-03 Thread Peter Frederick
GM's problems are, and have been as long as I've known anything about them, exceedingly poor management. The reason their cars cost so much to make isn't the union contracts, but sloppy design, bad parts, badly planned and executed assembly, their notorious penny pinching, ancient equipment,

Re: [MBZ] if I were running GM

2008-12-03 Thread Donald Snook
I must be prophetic! http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28030726 Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Next car

2008-12-03 Thread R A Bennell
Maintenance? On a 15 year old Cadillac that cost less than $2K? No worries man. Just drive it for a while and sell it to someone else. Why worry about maintenance? It is not like it is an old MB or something that one might wish to keep. Randy (who is not REALLY tongue in cheek on that one)

Re: [MBZ] Opel, here?

2008-12-03 Thread RELNGSON
...If I saw Opel for sale here I'd definitely check them out... GM tried that, called it the Catera, and it flopped. RLE   ** Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpamp;

[MBZ] the Worst Car ever made?

2008-12-03 Thread Donald Snook
http://tiny.cc/Q5488 One reason GM lost some customers! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] the Worst Car ever made?

2008-12-03 Thread R A Bennell
Pretty bad, but I don't know as though I would agree that it was the worst. There are certainly a fair number of contenders for that title. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Donald Snook Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:34 PM To:

Re: [MBZ] Opel, here?

2008-12-03 Thread Allan Streib
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:35:54 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: ...If I saw Opel for sale here I'd definitely check them out... GM tried that, called it the Catera, and it flopped. But it was badged as a Cadillac, not an Opel, so anyone who knew what an Opel was and might be interested never

Re: [MBZ] M119 broken timing chain

2008-12-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
hell, maybe I should just take a chance and go after it this weekend anyway. Tom Savage wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well as a matter of fact said car is up your way, which does not mean you can steal it out from under me. Im fixing to break my buying freeze I think. The guy bought it

Re: [MBZ] Opel, here?

2008-12-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I used to have a sweet Cadet wagon, several Mantas and almost a gt. They were fun little cars, rusted bad here in all of the salt. Had to hold one subframe together with bumper jacks and seatbelts to get it homelol Guy on the other side of the lake has a 502 BB Chevy in a GT.fastest

Re: [MBZ] OT Andrew's recycling

2008-12-03 Thread andrew strasfogel
Hey Rich, You're gettting warmer - this is great research. I enjoy the luxury of my own personal think tank. On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you need to add worms as an intermediate step. They love coffee grounds and whatever else. I found my

[MBZ] O/T Chevies vrs GMC

2008-12-03 Thread PM7088
No takers on this? I'm surprised. Shared engine design, stovebolt 6. GMC's had oil pumps, Chevies were splash lubed. Nice to be old sometimes. Pete, who keeps the 1.5L bottle of Makers Marks which was the Grand Prize. -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] Next car

2008-12-03 Thread andrew strasfogel
I mis-wrote. What I meant was the cost of fixing things that break. On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:46 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maintenance? On a 15 year old Cadillac that cost less than $2K? No worries man. Just drive it for a while and sell it to someone else. Why worry about

Re: [MBZ] Next car

2008-12-03 Thread Donald Snook
Allen wrote: GM Coolant pellets ?? what are these? GM makes these little pellets I don't know what they are made of, but you crush them with a hammer and put them in the radiator. They are supposed to accomplish the same thing as Bars Leak (and other similar products). A lot of Cadillac

Re: [MBZ] Next car

2008-12-03 Thread Allan Streib
Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Allen wrote: GM Coolant pellets ?? what are these? GM makes these little pellets I don't know what they are made of, but you crush them with a hammer and put them in the radiator. They are supposed to accomplish the same thing as Bars Leak (and other

Re: [MBZ] Opel, here?

2008-12-03 Thread Donald Snook
Allen wrote: They (GM/Cadillac) also tried selling a Cavalier with leather called a Cinnamon or something. Nobody was fooled. It was the Cimmaron. See my previous post labeled Worst car ever? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used

Re: [MBZ] Next car

2008-12-03 Thread R A Bennell
Same story. Don't fix it if it still moves forward when in gear. It is an old Cadillac. No one expects it to work. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 3:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion

Re: [MBZ] the Worst Car ever made?

2008-12-03 Thread Donald Snook
Randy wrote: Pretty bad, but I don't know as though I would agree that it was the worst. There are certainly a fair number of contenders for that title. Ok maybe there are others that would contend for the Title, but the Cimmaron has to be included in the list. I would also add the: Ford Pinto

Re: [MBZ] Opel, here?

2008-12-03 Thread gary hurst
Back in the day, there were a lot of fellas in NYC who would only drive caddys and trade them in for a new one every two years. This process would take all of 15 minutes as they'd just buy whatever the salesman told them to get. Then all these guys ended up getting put into cimmarons. GM

Re: [MBZ] Next car

2008-12-03 Thread Allan Streib
R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Same story. Don't fix it if it still moves forward when in gear. It is an old Cadillac. No one expects it to work. Speaking of old Cadillacs. http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/934062194.html ___

Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper

2008-12-03 Thread Curt Raymond
I do. Remember as George Carlin said (I think it was Carlin anyway) Think how stupid the average American is, then remember half the people are dumber than that! I think your average hipster has no idea that Scion is owned by Toyota and Acura is owned by Honda and Saturn is owned by GM. I

Re: [MBZ] Opel, here?

2008-12-03 Thread E M
Yeah, the Cimmaron was probably the most expensive badge ever stuck on a car.;-) lol Ed 300E 2008/12/3 gary hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Back in the day, there were a lot of fellas in NYC who would only drive caddys and trade them in for a new one every two years. This process would take all of

Re: [MBZ] the Worst Car ever made?

2008-12-03 Thread Peter Arnold
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:59:38 -0600, you wrote: Randy wrote: Pretty bad, but I don't know as though I would agree that it was the worst. There are certainly a fair number of contenders for that title. Ok maybe there are others that would contend for the Title, but the Cimmaron has to be included

Re: [MBZ] If I were running GM . . .

2008-12-03 Thread Curt Raymond
Hear hear! Bankruptcy is the only way to save GM in any lasting sense. My plan would be different, file bankruptcy, close Pontiac, and Buick. Kill Chevy trucks, all trucks are now GMC but there will be no separate dealerships, GMC will be a business unit of Chevrolet. Saab I haven't decided on,

Re: [MBZ] Car buying Calculus was Re: OT 87 Isuzu trooper

2008-12-03 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, I think GM owns Saab. Of course, the market presence here in the US is minimal, You're kidding, right? Been to the Pacific Northwest or New England lately? I see as many older Saabs here as older BMWs or Benzes,

Re: [MBZ] Next car

2008-12-03 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/934062194.html When I was 16, I found an ad for a rusty 1963 Caddy Convertible (it was 16 years old too). Something like $250, needed a top, rust repair, and who knows what else. I thought it was a great idea, my dad knew better, so I

Re: [MBZ] the Worst Car ever made?

2008-12-03 Thread E M
What was that old joke, you know you're going to have a really crap day when, You find yourself on a Dutch fary, with a Pinto in front of you, and an Audi 5000 behind you. hee hee Ed 300E 2008/12/3 Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Randy wrote: Pretty bad, but I don't know as though I would agree

Re: [MBZ] O/T Chevies vrs GMC

2008-12-03 Thread Donald Snook
Pete wrote: Pete, who keeps the 1.5L bottle of Makers Marks which was the Grand Prize. WOW! My favorite! Makers Mark is a tradition at our house. Every year for Christmas, my brother and I give each other a bottle (and a gift subscription to Car And Driver)! I wish I would have known that

Re: [MBZ] Next car

2008-12-03 Thread Donald Snook
Allan wrote: Do they manage to somehow avoid clogging the radiator and heater cores? I guess so. A lot of the techs at the dealership recommend and use them. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] the Worst Car ever made?

2008-12-03 Thread Kevin Kraly
Chevy Corvair I enjoyed the '62 Monza Convertible and the '64 Greenbrier van that we had for cruisin' around town. They definitely had their quirks as old cars do, but it was easy to tinker on them. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___

Re: [MBZ] Next car

2008-12-03 Thread Donald Snook
Allan wrote: 'Speaking of old Cadillacs. http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/934062194.html Here's another one, just a little bit nicer. http://tiny.cc/tyYWr This one is perfect for me as a Mizzou fan. It's black and gold! I could put 8 people in it and drive it to the games. With that

Re: [MBZ] the Worst Car ever made?

2008-12-03 Thread Mitch Haley
Donald Snook wrote: Randy wrote: Pretty bad, but I don't know as though I would agree that it was the worst. There are certainly a fair number of contenders for that title. Ok maybe there are others that would contend for the Title, but the Cimmaron has to be included in the list. I would

Re: [MBZ] O/T adult bevvies

2008-12-03 Thread Rich Thomas
You need to try Old Weller, Basil Hayden's, Rebel Yell, Knob Creek, Blanton's, and some of the others, and get out of the same old rut. I think you will be pleasantly surprised. MM, while plenty tasty, is sorta the Chebbie of that group! I like that style though. Honey I need to by my bro

Re: [MBZ] Next car

2008-12-03 Thread Rich Thomas
Hey, a buddy of mine has or had one of those he bought off a guy for scrap value, project he never got to, and it was in surprisingly good shape. He was going to ebay parts off it, but then decided he might drop a Cad 500 in it for grins. --R Donald Snook wrote: Allan wrote: 'Speaking of

Re: [MBZ] OT Andrew's recycling

2008-12-03 Thread Rich Thomas
You see what right thinking can do for you. I do like that worm idea though, some people apparently just put a 5 gal bucket under the sink and throw their stuff right in there, the worms eat, poop, and, uh, do what worms do, and you get good compost and more worms, sort of a self-sustaining

[MBZ] For I have sinned, I gave in to temptation

2008-12-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I just got done unloading my latest purchase. It is a 89 300E, its bright red with tan interior. It is in VERY nice shape, runs good, has new tires. Sorry Wacko, its in much better shape than the last one I had. As soon as I finish going thru it taking care of whatever it needs, it will be

Re: [MBZ] For I have sinned, I gave in to temptation

2008-12-03 Thread Kevin
I figured it wasn't going to take long. Your buying freezes last about as long as mine do. On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 05:22:30PM -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I just got done unloading my latest purchase. It is a 89 300E, its bright red with tan interior. It is in VERY nice shape, runs good,

Re: [MBZ] If I were running GM . . .

2008-12-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
One of those, Cobalt or Aveo, I cant remember which is actually made by some other company. In Korea maybe? I know the VIN format is different and it says it was made by such and such company. Curt Raymond wrote: Hear hear! Bankruptcy is the only way to save GM in any lasting sense. My

Re: [MBZ] For I have sinned, I gave in to temptation

2008-12-03 Thread Tom Hargrave
Trade for a 300SDL? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 5:23 PM To: mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] For I have sinned, I gave in to

Re: [MBZ] For I have sinned, I gave in to temptation

2008-12-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
No, this is it, I swear. Well, except maybe for that cheap 140. There is also a cheap 87 300D Im looking at but I dont know if its sold or what, guy has not emailed me back again. The way I figure it, I spent what I made off of one of the junker project cars I sold, and this one I can

Re: [MBZ] For I have sinned, I gave in to temptation

2008-12-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I would probably do some trading. Once I get it ready you can see what you think. Tom Hargrave wrote: Trade for a 300SDL? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent:

Re: [MBZ] O/T adult bevvies

2008-12-03 Thread Rich Thomas
Although Makers Mark does very well in Mint Juleps at the Derby. I speak from experience. --R Rich Thomas wrote: You need to try Old Weller, Basil Hayden's, Rebel Yell, Knob Creek, Blanton's, and some of the others, and get out of the same old rut. I think you will be pleasantly

Re: [MBZ] Just another day...

2008-12-03 Thread Hendrik Fay
I see you have the same colored S124, that blue/black color that is a pain to keep clean. Hendrik with a filthy TE John Robbins wrote: Working on the MB's. The E300 and SDL (hood up) are a friend's... John -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name:

Re: [MBZ] For I have sinned, I gave in to temptation

2008-12-03 Thread Rich Thomas
Well, he made it to like step 2 of the 12-step Benzanon program. Or maybe just the first, admitting he had a problem. Perhaps we should have an intervention, go take away all his addictive substances. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts

Re: [MBZ] For I have sinned, I gave in to temptation

2008-12-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Rich Thomas wrote: Well, he made it to like step 2 of the 12-step Benzanon program. Or maybe just the first, admitting he had a problem. Perhaps we should have an intervention, go take away all his addictive substances. --R

Re: [MBZ] For I have sinned, I gave in to temptation

2008-12-03 Thread Tom Hargrave
Fair enough. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 5:30 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] For I have sinned, I gave in to

[MBZ] What do you think of this...

2008-12-03 Thread Allan Streib
http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/940494981.html Too expensive? About right?? What are common problems with this model/year? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Was OT Biodiesel *processor*, then coffee grounds, now Starbucks fire starters

2008-12-03 Thread Tom Hargrave
If customers will pay $15.00 for a box of six generic brand coffee then what will they pay for Starbucks logs? Even more important, would Starbucks be willing to sell them? Looks like potential to me. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] M1 ATF in PS Pmp...coinkydink?

2008-12-03 Thread Peter Frederick
I suspect that AFT does something nasty to the seals -- my steering box on the new 300D dribbles, but now that I've been putting only PS fluid in for a year, I only fill it every 3000 miles or so instead of every 600 or so Not perfect, of course, but vastly better. It was filled with

Re: [MBZ] What do you think of this...

2008-12-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Could be decent, but always try to get it cheaper. Watch out for evap problems, and bad wiring harness. Also, head gasket. Allan Streib wrote: http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/940494981.html Too expensive? About right?? What are common problems with this model/year? Allan -- Kaleb

Re: [MBZ] O/T adult bevvies

2008-12-03 Thread Rich Thomas
: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20081203/c197c109/attachment.jpe ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe

Re: [MBZ] the Worst Car ever made?

2008-12-03 Thread LWB250
http://mars.superlink.net/~rriegler/sml/ Scroll down. It amazes me that this is still up after 12 years Dan --- On Wed, 12/3/08, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] the Worst Car ever made? To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'

[MBZ] Beware of the doghouse

2008-12-03 Thread RELNGSON
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Re: [MBZ] Next car

2008-12-03 Thread Redghost
I heard something about these things. They are used to replace the spent chemistry in the system. Not sure how you spend it, but IIRC Marshall talked of this sort of thing four years ago. Not sure where he stood, but I would expect it was against. Just change the fuses, use proper

Re: [MBZ] For I have sinned, I gave in to temptation

2008-12-03 Thread Wonko the Sane
Did you hear me complaining? I have no problem with what I am driving. Figured out why the speedo on the 300E is off by 5 mph (you are going 5 mph faster than what the speedo shows, as checked with GPS). The book calls for 195/65/15 and the tires on the car are 195/70/15. On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at

Re: [MBZ] For I have sinned, I gave in to temptation

2008-12-03 Thread Wonko the Sane
We could perhaps talk if it was blue. But red is a deal-killer for a Debbie car. On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I just got done unloading my latest purchase. It is a 89 300E, its bright red with tan interior. It is in VERY nice shape, runs good, has

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