Re: [MBZ] Air impact wrenches

2010-07-07 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
How much CFM does it require? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Air impact wrenches Mitch Haley wrote: Dimitri

Re: [MBZ] AC Duracool as r-12 replacement

2010-07-07 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Thanks to all for your responses, still clear as mud. Unfortunately my wagon has already been converted to r134. A few years ago I fixed all the leaks, vacuumed overnight and re-charged with r134, but the cooling is not adequate for the low country climate (90+ temp and humidity). I've decided

Re: [MBZ] Diagnose strange towing behavior

2010-07-07 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Thanks guys, yes I'll check those out. Tires were new a few years ago and have very little mileage on them but lots of time sitting in the boat storage yard. I was thrilled to find that they still had pressure after so many years. I think I paid $60 each for genuine trailer tires, and only used

[MBZ] Stall Speed for a 722.3?

2010-07-07 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Anyone know the stall speed for the 722.357 installed in my '87 124.193? I've searched the service manual and the technical data book with no joy. -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Air impact wrenches

2010-07-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: How much CFM does it require? Relatively little for a 1/2 impact wrench, 3.75 CFM. http://www.tooltopia.com/chicago-pneumatic-734h.aspx I never worry about that, as I don't use one enough to empty the air tank. Compressors are usually

Re: [MBZ] Stall Speed for a 722.3?

2010-07-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Anyone know the stall speed for the 722.357 installed in my '87 124.193? No, but I can guarantee that 1200 RPM indicates a serious lack of power or problem with the torque converter. Maybe Wilton would be willing to run a 5 second

Re: [MBZ] Here's a nicer 6.9

2010-07-07 Thread Donald Snook
Ed wrote: I think the top speed was rated around 140 mph or so, which was quite a thing in it's day, taking into account its weight and everything. A lot of things about the 450SEL 6.9 were pretty amazing for its day! I would like to have one. But, as you mentioned in another email, this is

Re: [MBZ] Here's a nicer 6.9

2010-07-07 Thread Donald Snook
Ok Don wrote: Indeed - that is a nice example! I want a ride after you buy it There is no way I am buying it. But, they are really interesting cars! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] Stall Speed for a 722.3?

2010-07-07 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
That's a great idea! Wilton, would you do me a favor? Warm your 300D up to full operating temperature, then while at a full stop and in drive, step hard on the brake, then floor the accelerator briefly and report the maximum RPM displayed. For the record, my wagon seems to have plenty of power,

Re: [MBZ] OK, so you have a 2k car with about 3k or more worth of repairs need, and its a great deal?

2010-07-07 Thread Curt Raymond
Isn't the interior pic of a Toyota? -Curt Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 22:51:11 -0400 From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Banned List ban...@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OK,    so you have a 2k car with about 3k or more     worth of     repairs need, 

Re: [MBZ] Stall Speed for a 722.3?

2010-07-07 Thread Jim Cathey
Now I'm wondering if my 0-60 time is low because of a bad torque converter. Would a bad torque converter also affect the fuel economy? Our 450SL had a bad TC, and at-speed power and fuel economy were unchanged. Off the line, however, it was quite the slug. Stall speed was low, and it whined.

Re: [MBZ] AC Duracool as r-12 replacement

2010-07-07 Thread Jim Cathey
I've decided that I'm going to remove the current charge, flush the system, check screen in the TXV, replace receiver/dryer and re-charge with r134. If you're going to do all that, why not switch to a better-performing refrigerant? There are several you could test... My issue with R134a is

Re: [MBZ] Diagnose strange towing behavior

2010-07-07 Thread Curt Raymond
How much pressure? I've found that my snowmobile trailer is much better behaved with 50# in the tires instead of 30#. The sidewall max is 60# I think... I've also had far fewer blowouts with the increased pressure. I'd be worth giving the whole trailer the once over. Coming home last spring

Re: [MBZ] AC Duracool as r-12 replacement

2010-07-07 Thread Jim Cathey
Of course, the Cathey test mixture is probably the cheapest. Currently about $8 per car. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] Diagnose strange towing behavior

2010-07-07 Thread Jim Cathey
mount for the tongue had broken and the whole thing was held together just by the tilt safety chain... Pretty scary. Trailers are an _excellent_ place to learn to use your new welder! The metal is heavy, things are exposed, and generally the quality of workmanship required is not high.

Re: [MBZ] Stall Speed for a 722.3?

2010-07-07 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Thanks Jim, good info as usual. Yes, I do get a nice surge at upshift. In fact on the whole I'm very happy with how the car shifts. The 1-2 shift occurs too early (about 3500 RPM) and the 2-3 shift is a little soft, but those are minor complaints in a 23 year old car with 325k+ miles. -Max

Re: [MBZ] AC Duracool as r-12 replacement

2010-07-07 Thread Allan Streib
On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 06:45 -0700, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: My issue with R134a is the nasty oils it requires, not the refrigerant itself. I back-converted (as a test) my wife's 560 SL. So far, so good. My 300D was converted to R134a but I have doubts that the oil was handled

Re: [MBZ] AC Duracool as r-12 replacement

2010-07-07 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
I use the ester oil, not the PAG. All though I'm tempted to use some test charges, I really don't have time to play too much. My '95 E300 that came with r134 from the factory has the same TXV as my '87 wagon, so I'm hoping that I can get better performance from the wagon using r134 once I fix

Re: [MBZ] Trailers

2010-07-07 Thread Jim Cathey
Regarding funky handling, how's the tongue weight? You generally want at least 10% of the weight on the tongue. If it's too light things get mighty squirrelly. There is also something to do with the center of air pressure (sail behavior) of your load versus the location of the tires, but I

Re: [MBZ] Diagnose strange towing behavior

2010-07-07 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Yes, I need to test each wheel and bearing. I doubt the tires had 30 lbs in them, I pumped them back up to 60, and agree 100% that proper tires and pressure make a huge difference. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On

Re: [MBZ] Stall Speed for a 722.3?

2010-07-07 Thread Jim Cathey
The 1-2 shift occurs too early (about 3500 RPM) Don't some of the cars do that on purpose? To avoid breaking something 'cause the torque is so high in low gear? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] Diagnose strange towing behavior

2010-07-07 Thread Curt Raymond
Yup, and the tilt mechanism on mine is pretty simple, two C channel pieces with 3 bolts. Just need to take off the middle piece of decking to get at it... -Curt Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 06:54:50 -0700 From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] AC Duracool as r-12 replacement

2010-07-07 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
My neighbor gets AC flush at FLAPS. He told me that when he replaced a compressor on his jeep, the warranty required that the system be flushed and new rcvr/drier installed as well as correct amount of oil. He bought a couple of 16 oz cans of flush, one for each side of the TXV (which had to be

Re: [MBZ] AC Duracool as r-12 replacement

2010-07-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: My '95 E300 that came with r134 from the factory has the same TXV as my '87 wagon, so I'm hoping that I can get better performance from the wagon using r134 once I fix whatever the problem is causing the pressures to be out of wack. Do

[MBZ] OT: M$ ending support for XP SP2

2010-07-07 Thread Dieselhead
Just a word to those of us who still use XP and have no intentions of sending bucks to WA for Winders 7: From Redmond Magazine: By mailto:edi...@1105media.comJabulani Leffall In less than a week after you read these very words, Microsoft will wind down support for one of its most popular

Re: [MBZ] AC Duracool as r-12 replacement

2010-07-07 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Don't know the answer to that, but I'll compare them later. '95 is in the shop for some welding to replace a rusty section of window frame. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Wednesday, July

Re: [MBZ] AC Duracool as r-12 replacement

2010-07-07 Thread Jim Cathey
How does one flush out the old oil? I didn't do a thorough flush. I did the stuff up front, especially the compressor which got flushed with gasoline to start with (it was out of the car), and bled propane through the system, but most of the oil in the evaporator was untouched. Still, it

Re: [MBZ] Stall Speed for a 722.3?

2010-07-07 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
I don't know that, will take a look at the factory spec for the shift points to see if mine is factory or not. I defeat that 'fault' by putting the lever in '2' at a stop when I know I'll need heavy acceleration, and then flooring the pedal. RPM climb to about 4800 and then the transmission will

Re: [MBZ] 95 C250D, any good?

2010-07-07 Thread WILTON
'Pity you didn't spent some of that good Aussie money in NC. ; Wilton - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 8:45 AM Subject: [MBZ] 95 C250D, any good? Is the W202 with the

Re: [MBZ] OK, so you have a 2k car with about 3k or more worth of repairs need, and its a great deal?

2010-07-07 Thread WILTON
'Not a 124 console/dash - you can see the real one through the window on the damaged side. Wilton - Original Message - From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 11:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OK,so you have a 2k car

Re: [MBZ] Stall Speed for a 722.3?

2010-07-07 Thread WILTON
'Preciate the opportunity, but no thanks. ; Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stall Speed for a 722.3? Dillon, Meade M CIV

Re: [MBZ] OK, so you have a 2k car with about 3k or more worth of repairs need, and its a great deal?

2010-07-07 Thread WILTON
Possibly. Is that a Toyota emblem on the steering wheel? Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OK,so you have a 2k car with about 3k or more worth of repairs

Re: [MBZ] WHo SHould I DOnate the broke W123 to?

2010-07-07 Thread Tim C
Volvo 940 went to NPR. Moderately easy but the pickup folks were a bit of a pain, had to leave number/callback, needed me to be there during the day, phone girl couldn't quite figure out what a head gasket was and why I didn't think it would affect towing, etc. Tow guy was pleasant enough but a

Re: [MBZ] Interpreting compression test results for W123 turbodiesel engine

2010-07-07 Thread andrew strasfogel
Does everyone agree with this? If true, is there any practical way to bypass the starter?? On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: If the starter is not spinning as fast at it should, this test means nothing at all. andrew strasfogel wrote: I need a

Re: [MBZ] WHo SHould I DOnate the broke W123 to?

2010-07-07 Thread Rolf
What color is interior? I need a new header where sun visor and dome light is). I am looking for high quartz or black. -Rolf On 07/07/2010 11:14 AM, Tim C wrote: Volvo 940 went to NPR. Moderately easy but the pickup folks were a bit of a pain, had to leave number/callback, needed me to be

Re: [MBZ] Interpreting compression test results for W123turbodiesel engine

2010-07-07 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Not bypass, make it spin faster. My solution: two batteries in series to feed it 24v, but that might make it spin too fast. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010

Re: [MBZ] Interpreting compression test results for W123turbodiesel engine

2010-07-07 Thread WILTON
Does the starter have good/plenty of elec pwr to it - good battery? Wilton - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Interpreting compression test

Re: [MBZ] Interpreting compression test results for W123turbodiesel engine

2010-07-07 Thread andrew strasfogel
The dude performed the test by jumpstarting the car and bypassing his weak battery. On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 12:24 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Does the starter have good/plenty of elec pwr to it - good battery? Wilton - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel

[MBZ] Crazy like us?

2010-07-07 Thread Curt Raymond
http://jalopnik.com/5580427/loony-mechanic-driving-200-renault-from-texas-to-alaska -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] OK, so you have a 2k car with about 3k or more worth of repairs need, and its a great deal?

2010-07-07 Thread E M
lol, why yes it is! Good eye. ;-) I'm sure the right side will buff out though. Ed 300E On 7 July 2010 09:36, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Isn't the interior pic of a Toyota? -Curt Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 22:51:11 -0400 From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion

Re: [MBZ] OK, so you have a 2k car with about 3k or more worth of repairs need, and its a great deal?

2010-07-07 Thread R A Bennell
You have to remember that it all depends upon your perspective. To them, it is a great car. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of E M Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 8:51 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Banned

Re: [MBZ] OK, so you have a 2k car with about 3k or more worth of repairs need, and its a great deal?

2010-07-07 Thread E M
That's true. Makes one wonder though, just what they would consider junk?? Ed 300E On 7 July 2010 13:01, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote: You have to remember that it all depends upon your perspective. To them, it is a great car. Randy -Original Message- From:

Re: [MBZ] Interpreting compression test results for W123turbodiesel engine

2010-07-07 Thread Dieselhead
I think you are chasing a straw dog. If the compression is that low, the effect of starter speed will not get it into usable range. Maybe 10%. That would take it from 220 to 242, and that is still a worn out engine, bad valves or rusty cylinder walls. The safe route is to assume it is a

Re: [MBZ] OK, so you have a 2k car with about 3k or more worth of repairs need, and its a great deal?

2010-07-07 Thread Rich Thomas
Yep, that and a little Bondo. --R On 7/7/2010 12:51 PM, E M wrote: lol, why yes it is! Good eye. ;-) I'm sure the right side will buff out though. Ed 300E On 7 July 2010 09:36, Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Isn't the interior pic of a Toyota? -Curt Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010

Re: [MBZ] Interpreting compression test results for W123turbodiesel engine

2010-07-07 Thread Curt Raymond
There are 2 reasons that doesn't work. #1. The weak battery eats up some of the power #2. The jumper cables aren't big enough/well connected enough to deliver full amperage to really spin the starter over. Thats why its all hell to start a car with a really dead battery and a small set of jumper

[MBZ] WTB

2010-07-07 Thread Rolf
Header for W123 second generation (larger dome light). High quartz or black. If it is black I will need visor as well. -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

Re: [MBZ] Interpreting compression test results for W123turbodiesel engine

2010-07-07 Thread Rolf
Oh ah yes then that is not really a good reading. Since his cables are probably not heavy enough gauge yada yada yada. Still... If nothing else its a bargaining chip. I would not pay more than $200, less if possible. -Rolf On 07/07/2010 12:39 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: The dude performed

[MBZ] 500SE For Sale

2010-07-07 Thread John Robbins
My brother bought Kaleb's Uncle's 500SE. We've played around with it for a little bit, but we've decided to get rid of it. Greg went and joined the Navy, and I need to get rid of the amount of stuff I have in case I move across country. 1983 500SE Euro, green on green, cloth seats, manual

Re: [MBZ] Interpreting compression test results for W123turbodiesel engine

2010-07-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Rolf wrote: Oh ah yes then that is not really a good reading. Since his cables are probably not heavy enough gauge yada yada yada. Still... If nothing else its a bargaining chip. I would not pay more than $200, less if possible. For the car, or for the engine? Up north, crushers are paying

Re: [MBZ] WTB

2010-07-07 Thread Rusty Cullens
with or with out sunroof? the sunroof portion or the back portion? Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Rolf r...@winmutt.com To:

Re: [MBZ] Interpreting compression test results for W123turbodiesel engine

2010-07-07 Thread Rolf
Engine. Worst case scenario is that he has a spare SLS head for core on a rebuild and still be able to drive the car. If he has other cars I'd spend the $800 and find a decent engine. -Rolf On 07/07/2010 02:23 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Rolf wrote: Oh ah yes then that is not really a good

Re: [MBZ] Crazy like us?

2010-07-07 Thread Allan Streib
Anyone owning or driving a Renault is by default crazy. On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 09:42 -0700, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: http://jalopnik.com/5580427/loony-mechanic-driving-200-renault-from-texas-to-alaska -Curt ___

[MBZ] MB Sales

2010-07-07 Thread LarryT
Howdy --- Thought ya'll might be interested in some MB car sales data - (I rounded #'s to save me time) 2000 - 206K 2001 - 207k 2002 - 213k 2003 - 219k 2004 - 222k 2005 - 224k 2006 - 248k 2007 - 252k 2008 - 225kSmart - 26k 2009 - 191kSmart - 15k Vehicles sold in 2009 (some - I don't

Re: [MBZ] Interpreting compression test results for W123turbodiesel engine

2010-07-07 Thread andrew strasfogel
I can get a SLS head for $450 already loose but not tested. On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: Engine. Worst case scenario is that he has a spare SLS head for core on a rebuild and still be able to drive the car. If he has other cars I'd spend the $800 and find a

[MBZ] Prius port holes

2010-07-07 Thread WILTON
'Just saw a Prius with 4 Buick port holes. BTW, elec vehicle makers are scrambling to find, build and install noise makers on their vehicles to improve low-speed safety for pedestrians. A clothes pin and a playing card worked pretty good on our bikes. ; Wilton

Re: [MBZ] 500SE For Sale

2010-07-07 Thread Rich Thomas
Kaleb will give you $500 for it. --R On 7/7/2010 2:18 PM, John Robbins wrote: My brother bought Kaleb's Uncle's 500SE. We've played around with it for a little bit, but we've decided to get rid of it. Greg went and joined the Navy, and I need to get rid of the amount of stuff I have in

Re: [MBZ] Prius port holes

2010-07-07 Thread Rich Thomas
I saw some sh**box the other day with $2000 worth of rims and tires, with *4* portholes on each front fender. I think it really attracted the wimmins, and all the homies thought the driver was fly, too, yo. Word. --R On 7/7/2010 2:36 PM, WILTON wrote: 'Just saw a Prius with 4 Buick port

Re: [MBZ] Prius port holes

2010-07-07 Thread Walt Zarnoch
mallory sonalert's also work wonders... On Jul 7, 2010 3:44 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Just saw a Prius with 4 Buick port holes. BTW, elec vehicle makers are scrambling to find, build and install noise makers on their vehicles to improve low-speed safety for pedestrians. A clothes

Re: [MBZ] Prius port holes

2010-07-07 Thread E M
A Prius owner almost back into me while walking in a parking lot yesterday, and damn near ran me over. I really do try hard not to think of all Prius owners as idiots, but they're not giving me much to work with. They're always complaining about me wasting all the oil, running my Porsche. Well

Re: [MBZ] Prius port holes

2010-07-07 Thread E M
I waiting for some dork to put portholes in the front fenders of a 911. Only a matter of time, someone will do it, and even worse, think it's cool. hee hee Like when a bunch of people used to put snows on the rears only, when FWD were making it onto the scene. Ed 300E On 7 July 2010 15:49, Rich

Re: [MBZ] Prius port holes

2010-07-07 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Prius sucks *ss! Those cars annoy me to no end. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 7, 2010, at 3:55 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: A Prius owner almost back into me while walking in a parking lot yesterday, and damn near ran me over. I really do try hard not to think of all Prius owners as

Re: [MBZ] MB Sales

2010-07-07 Thread Dieselhead
I wonder how that compares to the 80-85 time period. THey sold a lot of Diesels in the 83-85 time period. I think it was 1983 that I went to the first MBCA meeting of the season, and everyone there had a Diesel! they were all fairly new, (80-83) except mine. And for 20 years most of them

Re: [MBZ] Prius port holes

2010-07-07 Thread Rich Thomas
A group of us was cycling a couple weeks ago, a Pious on battery passed us too closely (dumbass driver too, imagine that), and no one heard it. It was sorta scary and surprising, this thing just materialized right next to us, very close. It was kind of an Ohsh** moment for all of us.

Re: [MBZ] Prius port holes

2010-07-07 Thread Allan Streib
Around here when the bikes hear a car approaching they bunch up in a pack and take up the whole lane. And just this summer I've seen three near-collisions cause by bicyclists blowing thru stop signs. There are jerks on both sides when it comes to bikes/cars sharing the road. The noise issue

Re: [MBZ] Prius port holes

2010-07-07 Thread WILTON
Driver of the one with 4 port holes on each fender was little bald-headed guy 'bout 65. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 3:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ]

Re: [MBZ] Prius port holes

2010-07-07 Thread Allan Streib
On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 14:36 -0400, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: BTW, elec vehicle makers are scrambling to find, build and install noise makers on their vehicles to improve low-speed safety for pedestrians. Maybe they should have a sound like a chorus of angels to underscore the holier than

Re: [MBZ] Prius port holes

2010-07-07 Thread Mitch Haley
WILTON wrote: Driver of the one with 4 port holes on each fender was little bald-headed guy 'bout 65. Probably bought a Pious to overcome latent guilt over driving an Electra 225 in his youth. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] Prius port holes

2010-07-07 Thread WILTON
Knowing that my electric scooter is too quiet, I try to warn people in front of me when shopping, Coming past you on the right/left, etc. 'Guess I could rig a playing card to rub against a tire tread. ;)) Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas

Re: [MBZ] Prius port holes

2010-07-07 Thread E M
Guy probably just retired, so he bought a Prius and if off to save the world (which doesn't need saving), along with Al Gore. Ed 300E On 7 July 2010 16:32, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Driver of the one with 4 port holes on each fender was little bald-headed guy 'bout 65. Wilton -

Re: [MBZ] Prius port holes

2010-07-07 Thread E M
I believe the proper warning is, zoom zoom, I'm coming through. hee hee. ;-) Ed 300E On 7 July 2010 16:39, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Knowing that my electric scooter is too quiet, I try to warn people in front of me when shopping, Coming past you on the right/left, etc. 'Guess I could

Re: [MBZ] Prius port holes

2010-07-07 Thread WILTON
Just this morning, I started to make right turn on red (legally, of course, after stopping and sure there was no cross traffic) cyclist whipped past me on the right and went through the red light; he oughta be damned glad I looked back and to the right as I started the turn and stopped in time.

Re: [MBZ] Prius port holes

2010-07-07 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 12:58 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: Like when a bunch of people used to put snows on the rears only, when FWD were making it onto the scene. A lot of tire shops will tell you htat if you're only replacing two tires on your car, regardless of whether it's FWD or

[MBZ] Renault

2010-07-07 Thread theprofil...@dwx.com
My first car was a '67 R-10. 46 hp. top speed of 83 (@ 5600 rpm--yikes!). Extremely simple, just a slightly larger and boxier dauphine. Nice ride and quite comfortable and roomy for its size, quirky handling (virtually no weight on the front end). Nice little free-revving 1100 cc

Re: [MBZ] Prius port holes

2010-07-07 Thread E M
I think the general thinking is, an understeering car is safer than an oversteering car, which it is, for the average driver. Putting the better tires on the rear, will just accentuate this, in most cases. However, 30 years ago, such wisdom didn't play into it, they were just dumb. hee hee.

Re: [MBZ] Prius port holes

2010-07-07 Thread Dieselhead
I like the idea of an automatically advancing card on the spokes. It is simple and some of us remember the cards on bike spokes, so it kind of deflates the pious owners pious ego to some extent. On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 14:36 -0400, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: BTW, elec vehicle makers

Re: [MBZ] Interpreting compression test results for W123turbodieselengine

2010-07-07 Thread R A Bennell
Sometimes it is just not a good connection. My wife's car wouldn't go a few years back and I went to jump it with my truck and a good quality set of cables that I made out of welding wire. First attempt was no good. Changed the ground cable to a different spot and got a good connection and it

Re: [MBZ] Prius port holes

2010-07-07 Thread Rich Thomas
Those guys are looking for their Darwin Award. I see them too, and if I could slap them around I would. I can assure you that my cycling colleagues and I are way past the age of being invulnerable (or thinking we are). We do not take up the road, though some cyclists seem to think they can

Re: [MBZ] Interpreting compression test results for W123turbodieselengine

2010-07-07 Thread andrew strasfogel
I'm not sure that this has any bearing on engine compression. The car in question starts easily in warm temperatures. We are debating whether a loose fitting on the compression tester OR a weak starter motor on the tested car could influence the gauge readings significantly in a lower direction.

Re: [MBZ] Interpreting compression test results forW123turbodieselengine

2010-07-07 Thread R A Bennell
You might debate it all day long but that will not really help you much. If you are concerned, then you need to test it again and make sure that you do not have a leak problem and that the starter is turning it fast enough. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Interpreting compression test results forW123turbodieselengine

2010-07-07 Thread andrew strasfogel
I would do that if the car weren't 175 miles from home! On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 6:40 PM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote: You might debate it all day long but that will not really help you much. If you are concerned, then you need to test it again and make sure that you do not have a leak

Re: [MBZ] MB Sales

2010-07-07 Thread LarryT
I know what you mean - my son now has the 78 240D I rebuilt 50K miles ago - he was moving it around the driveway to rep for washing and I was pleasantly surprised to hear it start before it even made 1 revolution! I barely heard the starter - then it fired and ran smoothly. At the time I

Re: [MBZ] 95 C250D, any good?

2010-07-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
While I am not saying I would want one, but why cant we get cars like that here? OK Don wrote: I haven't ever actually seen one that I was aware of, but I would not hesitate at the OM605. Doesn't the W202 have the front spring mounts that pop off at the top? On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 7:45 AM,

Re: [MBZ] AC Duracool as r-12 replacement

2010-07-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I would still like to figure out a way to get this plan going, my problem is getting it from the cans to the car. Jim Cathey wrote: Of course, the Cathey test mixture is probably the cheapest. Currently about $8 per car. -- Jim ___

Re: [MBZ] 95 C250D, any good?

2010-07-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: While I am not saying I would want one, but why cant we get cars like that here? No kidding. Were any variants of the OM604 or OM605 ever sold by MBUSA? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] AC Duracool as r-12 replacement

2010-07-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
now see, that brings up a point I was talking about a year or so ago. The 92 and up 124's have factory R134. The evap and condenser all have the same part number for R12 or R134. So why does the factory 134 seem to cool better than a converted car? Dillon, Meade M CIV

Re: [MBZ] AC Duracool as r-12 replacement

2010-07-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I bought it in the gallon jug Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: My neighbor gets AC flush at FLAPS. He told me that when he replaced a compressor on his jeep, the warranty required that the system be flushed and new rcvr/drier installed as well as correct amount of oil.

Re: [MBZ] Interpreting compression test results for W123 turbodiesel engine

2010-07-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Bypass the starter? for what? Thats about like saying bypass the engine to make the car go. andrew strasfogel wrote: Does everyone agree with this? If true, is there any practical way to bypass the starter?? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92

Re: [MBZ] Interpreting compression test results for W123turbodiesel engine

2010-07-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
the dude does not know what he is doing it does not sound like. andrew strasfogel wrote: The dude performed the test by jumpstarting the car and bypassing his weak battery. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89

Re: [MBZ] Interpreting compression test results for W123turbodieselengine

2010-07-07 Thread Curt Raymond
It all boils down to those numbers being useless. He needs a better compression tester and a proper battery. Jumping a battery is unacceptable, a leaking compression tester is likewise unacceptable. -Curt Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 18:18:46 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To:

Re: [MBZ] AC Duracool as r-12 replacement

2010-07-07 Thread Frederick W Moir
Kaleb, Max, et al. The expansion valve is different for R12 R134a. What I found was that a clean and tight system with the 134 valve works OK, but not brilliantly. YMMV Fred Moir Lynn MA On 7/7/2010 7:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: now see, that brings up a point I was talking about a year

[MBZ] 1968 MB 250 with parts for sale

2010-07-07 Thread Burt Anderson
I think it is ok to list this for sale. 1968 250 sedan--for sale, 105K miles, in primer, was in total restoration but I got old and sick. Body is solid with no rust. Newer Webers, 4 older orig carbs, extra set of window, door, fender and rocker trim, extra generator, starter, water pump,

Re: [MBZ] AC Duracool as r-12 replacement

2010-07-07 Thread Allan Streib
Expansion valve? On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 18:14 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: now see, that brings up a point I was talking about a year or so ago. The 92 and up 124's have factory R134. The evap and condenser all have the same part number for R12 or R134. So why does the

Re: [MBZ] W202 smoker?

2010-07-07 Thread RELNGSON
.I haven't ever actually seen one that I was aware of, but I would not hesitate at the OM605. Doesn't the W202 have the front spring mounts that pop off at the top?.. W202 diesels were not sold in the US. And it's the W210 that rusts apart. My W202 never showed any rust and it's M104

Re: [MBZ] WHo SHould I DOnate the broke W123 to?

2010-07-07 Thread Bob Rentfro
I'll look to see if I have those things that are of of the car. Haven't decided to go all Kaleb on it yet... Bob R On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: Volvo 940 went to NPR. Moderately easy but the pickup folks were a bit of a pain, had to leave number/callback,

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: AC Duracool as r-12 replacement

2010-07-07 Thread Jim Cathey
The evap and condenser all have the same part number for R12 or R134. So why does the factory 134 seem to cool better than a converted car? They have the same part number _now_, but did they always? A larger-for-R134a finned beast could supersede an R12-only unit in the parts callouts. Or,

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: AC Duracool as r-12 replacement

2010-07-07 Thread Jim Cathey
I would still like to figure out a way to get this plan going, my problem is getting it from the cans to the car. Side-tapper. I used coat hanger wire and two pair of vise grips, and an R12 can tap. For the R290 I just used a propane torch fitting with a hose clamped on it, and a fitting from

Re: [MBZ] 95 C250D, any good?

2010-07-07 Thread Hendrik Fay
While I am saying I want one, why did Oz never get a turbo Diesel engine in the 123/4, 201, 126. Hendrik with no turbos Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: While I am not saying I would want one, but why cant we get cars like that here? OK Don wrote: I haven't ever actually seen one that I was aware

Re: [MBZ] W202 smoker?

2010-07-07 Thread Hendrik Fay
In the 202 chassis a 104 motor would be my next choice, the M111 just seems a bit weak but lots available in 1.8 liter format :'( with the crappiest looking interior MB ever came up with, makes the cheap C look very cheap. That's why the upper speced 202 are better with tex or leather.

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: AC Duracool as r-12 replacement

2010-07-07 Thread Peter Frederick
The expansion valve is different, the other parts all have always had the same part number (it's from before the switch). I've discovered a couple things -- one, you really do need to get rid of the mineral oil, it coats the condenser (along with all the crud that has collected) and

[MBZ] List malfunction?

2010-07-07 Thread Rich Thomas
I have just now been getting mails from earlier today, sent a couple earlier that have not arrived, though some others did. I did hear a helicopter hovering earlier, but I put on my AFDB and it went away. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used

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