Re: [MBZ] 92 300E Eating Serpentine Belta?

2012-12-04 Thread Tim C
On Dec 3, 2012 1:29 PM, Dan Penoff dan d...@penoff.com@ d...@penoff.com penoff.com d...@penoff.com wrote: thinking that since everything the belt drives is attached to the engine in some fashion it wouldn't affect the belt. You've still got some extra side stress on the belt if the impact isn't

Re: [MBZ] 92 300E Eating Serpentine Belta?

2012-12-04 Thread Dieselhead
On Dec 3, 2012 1:29 PM, Dan Penoff dan d...@penoff.com@ d...@penoff.com penoff.com d...@penoff.com wrote: thinking that since everything the belt drives is attached to the engine in some fashion it wouldn't affect the belt. You've still got some extra side stress on the belt if the impact

Re: [MBZ] CL idiot of the week

2012-12-04 Thread andrew strasfogel
Nice color but very expensive to restore. Those peeling louvers are a real nightmare to get at, and what does it mean that an engine needs tlc? Is that code for a valve job? On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 9:47 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: Warning lights?

2012-12-04 Thread Jim Cathey
It still sounds like a bad ground. Parking brake, brake wear, and low fuel indicators are independent of the alternator and are directly powered by 12 volts. Not independent. The lamp-test function uses a diode and resistor to send current into the alternator for each of the lamps that don't

Re: [MBZ] CL idiot of the week

2012-12-04 Thread Rich Thomas
It is code that the guy is an idiot. Occam's razor. --R On 12/4/12 9:47 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Nice color but very expensive to restore. Those peeling louvers are a real nightmare to get at, and what does it mean that an engine needs tlc? Is that code for a valve job? On Mon, Dec 3,

Re: [MBZ] Beltless

2012-12-04 Thread Michael Canfield
Other than aircraft and stationary engines I can't think of any. Interesting question. Mike On Dec 3, 2012 7:57 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ..Hmm. There are of course plenty of cars out there with chain-driven cams, and a few with gear-driven ones... but was an engine ever made with no

Re: [MBZ] CL idiot of the week

2012-12-04 Thread Michael Canfield
Wow. Parts car is kinda harsh isn't it? Looks like a nice body that could be put back to a reasonable operating condition and enjoyed for many years. Maybe TLC just means that maintenance had been neglected and it just needs a good servicing. Used parts are all over all of our cars, I am not

Re: [MBZ] Beltless

2012-12-04 Thread Rich Thomas
I have seen fat guys with suspenders only because a belt slides down and does no good. Although interestingly that is called Dunlop's disease, cause their bellies dunlopped over their belts. Even a Dunlop belt would probably not work! Or maybe it would... --R On 12/4/12 10:08 AM, Michael

Re: [MBZ] 92 300E Eating Serpentine Belta?

2012-12-04 Thread Randy Bennell
On 03/12/2012 5:21 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: Check the fan pulley, it can be put on wrong way round (and the water pump pulley, if I remember correctly). The difference is just about 1 and one half ribs, so eventually the belt shreds on one side (the rear on my brother's car) and works fine

Re: [MBZ] 92 300E Eating Serpentine Belta?

2012-12-04 Thread Randy Bennell
On 03/12/2012 7:03 PM, Dieselhead wrote: What if said cheaper accessory seizes? When it's belt driven, it only breaks a belt I've seen this happen more than once with a/c and alternators. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (159,xxx mi) Uh.that is what shear pins or

Re: [MBZ] CL idiot of the week

2012-12-04 Thread Randy Bennell
On 03/12/2012 8:47 PM, clay monroe wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/3414876270.html The guy has not realistically thought out the future for this ride. This is a parts car and only a parts car from my point of view. $6k for a new engine or rebuild, full exhaust, interior and

[MBZ] Subject: Low cost w115

2012-12-04 Thread dblidd
Haha I think I looked at that car in 2009, head is in the trunk and it does not look like it has moved an inch since then. The owner's mother who was selling it was named Joelyn or something, would not take an offer below the $250 asking price! It was not too rusty at that time. I still have a

[MBZ] New E63

2012-12-04 Thread Rich Thomas
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/1212_2014_mercedes_benz_e63_amg_4matic_development_mule_first_look/ With 4WD, just the thing for blasting through those snow drifts --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To

[MBZ] New email client

2012-12-04 Thread Max Dillon
OP test Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] CL idiot of the week

2012-12-04 Thread clay monroe
There are so darn many of the R107 that the amount of cash required to make this one a viable driver is a multiple of the value of the car. Though fewer SLC were made, the model is not desirable for a collector or normal buyer. They rot out and are not cared for because they are a lesser

Re: [MBZ] CL idiot of the week

2012-12-04 Thread clay monroe
You still need access to fresh air and defog. Chrysler ACC II is garbage, but maybe you could transplant one from a w126 On Dec 4, 2012, at 9:18 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 03/12/2012 8:47 PM, clay monroe wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/3414876270.html The guy has not

Re: [MBZ] New email client

2012-12-04 Thread Dieselhead
OP test Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD '73 Balboa 20 Fail ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] New email client

2012-12-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
you failed On 12/4/2012 4:37 PM, Max Dillon wrote: OP test Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] New E63 e1usa9az

2012-12-04 Thread Chris James
Speaking of the refreshed '14 E-classit looks like 4matic will finally be available on the BlueTEC (diesel) model as well, if the preliminary ordering info that was recently shown is anything to go by! Chris J. ___

Re: [MBZ] Warning lights?

2012-12-04 Thread Curt Raymond
I had time tonight to go out and pull the cluster from my '84 190D that isn't charging (parking brake, brake warning and low fuel indicators on). Pulling the cluster from a 201 is a lot harder than a 123. The steering wheel must come out, normal tools don't seem to work and you can't push it out

[MBZ] OT Oz Porch

2012-12-04 Thread Hendrik Fay
I am sure the purists will make the usual noises. http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/semaphore/cars-vans-utes/1977-porsche-924-coupe/1009536457 Hendrik who is half tempted to buy that for daughter to drive but has no room ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and

Re: [MBZ] CL SLC

2012-12-04 Thread RELNGSON
...This is a parts car and only a parts car from my point of view.  $6k for a new engine or rebuild, full exhaust, interior and center console controls are going to need expensive attention... Right on. I remember reading about somebody's restoration of those silly window slats years ago

Re: [MBZ] OT Oz Porch

2012-12-04 Thread Rich Thomas
Funny enough the pics are upside down. I guess it won't work here in the north american colonies. --R On 12/4/12 10:32 PM, Hendrik Fay wrote: I am sure the purists will make the usual noises. http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/semaphore/cars-vans-utes/1977-porsche-924-coupe/1009536457

Re: [MBZ] Beltless

2012-12-04 Thread RELNGSON
...Other than aircraft and stationary engines I can't think of any. Interesting question... It's the coming thing and whether it's going to be limited to high end cars is the question. The new Porsche direct injection 3.8 L 400 hp water cooled flat six in the 991 has only one belt which

Re: [MBZ] OT Oz Porch

2012-12-04 Thread WILTON
Vertigo! Vertigo! Wilton - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 10:32 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT Oz Porch I am sure the purists will make the usual noises.

Re: [MBZ] CL idiot of the week

2012-12-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Looking to the future 10 years out, a concours condition, unrusted original low miles and documented late model SL C will be worth a ton of money due to its sheer rarity.. On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 6:03 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: You still need access to fresh air and defog.

Re: [MBZ] OT Oz Porch

2012-12-04 Thread Max Dillon
If we crossed the equator, pix would appear right side up on our 'puters. Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD '73 Balboa 20 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Funny enough the pics are upside down. I guess it won't work here in the north american colonies. --R

Re: [MBZ] OT Oz Porch

2012-12-04 Thread Rich Thomas
You know what is really funny, is that when I saw the link, I thought, I wonder if the pictures are upside down? Then I opened the link, and sho nuff... --R On 12/4/12 11:24 PM, Max Dillon wrote: If we crossed the equator, pix would appear right side up on our 'puters. Max Dillon

Re: [MBZ] Beltless

2012-12-04 Thread tom savage
On Dec 4, 2012 10:07 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Other than aircraft and stationary engines I can't think of any. Interesting question... It's the coming thing and whether it's going to be limited to high end cars is the question. Isn't the Prius beltless? I think the alternator is

Re: [MBZ] OT Oz Porch

2012-12-04 Thread Dieselhead
You know what is really funny, is that when I saw the link, I thought, I wonder if the pictures are upside down? Then I opened the link, and sho nuff... --R Well, of course! It is down under, so it is upside down! The whole time the Henifay crew wuz here, they kept walking on their

Re: [MBZ] Beltless

2012-12-04 Thread Max Dillon
So, let me get this straight. One belt drives the alternator. That alternator provides the electricity to run the electric motors, which turn the oil pump, water pump, compressor and power steering pump. And this saves horse power, converting torque into electricity and then back into torque

Re: [MBZ] New E63

2012-12-04 Thread Hendrik Fay
Ahh well, till it comes out you could practise with this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OUv2yFGw9E Hendrik who will not be dashing through the snow this year On 05/12/12 06:09, Rich Thomas wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Warning lights? y5y4u3an

2012-12-04 Thread Chris James
Curt, Never owned a W123 to compare the two, but I know I didn't have to take the steering wheel off of my '85 190D when I took the cluster out. If you take out the drivers side vent duct hose once you've removed the bottom panel unscrewed the speedo cable, you can reach around push out

Re: [MBZ] OT Oz Porch

2012-12-04 Thread Hendrik Fay
Yeah well, that's why you drove trucks in the sky and not sports planes. Hendrik who gets vertigo now and then, especially in high places On 05/12/12 14:38, WILTON wrote: Vertigo! Vertigo! Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 85, Issue 13

2012-12-04 Thread RELNGSON
...Speaking of the refreshed '14 E-classit looks like 4matic will finally be available on the BlueTEC (diesel) model as well, if the preliminary ordering info that was recently shown is anything to go by!.. The undisguised production model is shown in the 11/29 Auto motor und Sport. I

Re: [MBZ] Inverted 924

2012-12-04 Thread RELNGSON
..I am sure the purists will make the usual noises... Avoid 924s. All of them. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options

Re: [MBZ] Inverted 924

2012-12-04 Thread Hendrik Fay
OK will save up money to buy poorly balanced rear engine version. Hendrik who spends his days checking the cars at U pull it for loose change On 05/12/12 16:03, relng...@aol.com wrote: ..I am sure the purists will make the usual noises... Avoid 924s. All of them. RLE

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: Beltless

2012-12-04 Thread Jim Cathey
And this saves horse power, converting torque into electricity and then back into torque again? ...I don't see how this increases fuel economy. Obviously because the _average_ load is much lower than the peak supply that the mechanical-only is capable of supplying. Enough so that it more than