[MBZ] Police start using 'black boxes' in car crash investigations

2013-07-23 Thread Gerry Archer
Nearly every car being manufactured right now comes with a little added bonus by way of a tiny recording device nestled under the center console. And if you're looking to keep your driving habits under wraps, you might want to start worrying. As many as 96 percent of the cars mass-produced in

Re: [MBZ] OT: Puppy Linux

2013-07-23 Thread Fmiser
Curt wrote: Whoops, I guess it is 5.5, I just checked. I was definitely on 5.3.3 though. This is Slacko and mine is the 4+GB one (as in its 64 bit and supports more than 4GB of RAM) although I don't think that matters a whole lot. There is a 32 bit Linux kernel that has some magic applied

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Running Wild

2013-07-23 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Yes it would help to know the make, did the original poster check the engine oil level after the engine went 'quiet'? Did he check to see if there was fuel left in the tank? My guess is that the fuel rack somehow jammed open onto full throttle and then it ran out of fuel. If it is engine oil

Re: [MBZ] Lister Mom duties

2013-07-23 Thread Hendrik and Fay
As long as there are duties allocated and boundaries set, for instance I have limited powers on ozbenz, the admins do the powerful stuff. Hendrik who is not power hungry On 23/07/13 14:57, Gerry Archer wrote: How many big decisions have to be made on the list? Kalebs let alone model has been

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Running Wild

2013-07-23 Thread Larry T
Hendrik -- Here's the full post -- maybe it will have some helpful info - how did the fuel become black? it went in clear. about hour 40 of a nice 80 hour bashing motorsail from zihuatenejo north to barra de navidad, which should have taken only 40 hours, we discovered there was a huge

Re: [MBZ] A Jaime green car is boring

2013-07-23 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Ugly is factual. English Red = ugly. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 10:00 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Ugly is in the eye of the beholder :-) On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:42 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: But it's not ugly:) -- OK Don 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg

Re: [MBZ] A Jaime green car is boring

2013-07-23 Thread Rich Thomas
Oh for the day when my car will be judged for the content of its mechanicals and not the color of its skin --R On 7/23/13 8:00 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Ugly is factual. English Red = ugly. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 10:00 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Ugly is in the eye of the

[MBZ] Asiana, etc.

2013-07-23 Thread WILTON
B-52 crews include at least four (sometimes, six, if you include instructor pilot and instructor navigator) highly-trained, reasonably well-paid individuals, pilot, co-pilot, navigator and radar-navigator/bombardier, whose duties include monitoring altitude and airspeed. I've flown many hours

Re: [MBZ] OT: Puppy Linux

2013-07-23 Thread Curt Raymond
Too late, you're a snob :) My theory was that a really really lightweight distro on pretty good hardware (core duo 2.something, 4GB RAM) would give excellent performance even running the OS off a USB drive. The original purpose for this was so I could have an OS to use on the road in hotels

[MBZ] drop dead gorgeous

2013-07-23 Thread mlh
This Ferrari is so beautiful it's hard to look at it and remain standing: https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7659942400/hE6EA3342/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go

Re: [MBZ] drop dead gorgeous

2013-07-23 Thread Rich Thomas
Is that a GTO? One Sunday morning many moons ago I was driving around Providence RI on whatever interstate that is, and heard this ear-splitting chainsaw sound coming up behind/beside me and it was a Ferrari GTO that looked pretty much like that, running at full bore going very fast. It was

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL

2013-07-23 Thread WILTON
Just took it on about an 8-mile drive; 'best I can tell, lost no coolant. We'll see what oil analysis says. USPS says kit'll be here today - we'll see. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com; rich Thomas

Re: [MBZ] drop dead gorgeous

2013-07-23 Thread Mitch Haley
Rich Thomas wrote: Is that a GTO? One Sunday morning many moons ago I was driving around Providence RI on whatever interstate that is, and heard this ear-splitting chainsaw sound coming up behind/beside me and it was a Ferrari GTO that looked pretty much like that, running at full bore going

Re: [MBZ] drop dead gorgeous

2013-07-23 Thread Mitch Haley
Rich Thomas wrote: Is that a GTO? I was right, 250 GT, model year is 1957: http://www.autoblog.com/2011/11/15/alain-de-cadenet-makes-em-swoon-at-mille-miglia-na-in-vintage-f/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Police start using 'black boxes' in car crash investigations

2013-07-23 Thread Mitch Haley
In the Murray incident, the state owns the car, and I would assume, the data box. When I own the car, they'll need probable cause to get a search warrant for my data box. (unfortunately, a lot of judges don't even seem to read warrants before they sign them, so that's a minor formality)

Re: [MBZ] Asiana, etc.

2013-07-23 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
My college roommate is an expert on human factors and he agrees 100 percent that it was the excessive reliance on automated controls, plus a Korean cultural inclination to reinforce this reliance, that led to the crash. On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:31 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: B-52

Re: [MBZ] A Jaime green car is boring

2013-07-23 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
ROFLMAO and Touche. On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Oh for the day when my car will be judged for the content of its mechanicals and not the color of its skin --R On 7/23/13 8:00 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Ugly is factual.

Re: [MBZ] Police start using 'black boxes' in car crash investigations

2013-07-23 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
You should join the ACLU. They are all over this. On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: In the Murray incident, the state owns the car, and I would assume, the data box. When I own the car, they'll need probable cause to get a search warrant for my data box.

Re: [MBZ] Police start using 'black boxes' in car crash investigations

2013-07-23 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
That would be for a very limited market. On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 23/07/2013 1:51 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: In the Murray incident, the state owns the car, and I would assume, the data box. When I own the car, they'll need probable cause to

Re: [MBZ] Police start using 'black boxes' in car crash investigations

2013-07-23 Thread Rich Thomas
A hammer would do it, or any high-voltage source. --R On 7/23/13 4:04 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: One would think there will soon be devices available to re-program such a black box. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Police start using 'black boxes' in car crash investigations

2013-07-23 Thread Randy Bennell
On 23/07/2013 1:51 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: In the Murray incident, the state owns the car, and I would assume, the data box. When I own the car, they'll need probable cause to get a search warrant for my data box. (unfortunately, a lot of judges don't even seem to read warrants before they sign

Re: [MBZ] Police start using 'black boxes' in car crash investigations

2013-07-23 Thread Randy Bennell
You might be surprised at how big the market would be. Randy On 23/07/2013 3:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: That would be for a very limited market. On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 23/07/2013 1:51 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: In the Murray incident,

Re: [MBZ] Police start using 'black boxes' in car crash investigations

2013-07-23 Thread Randy Bennell
I was thinking more along the lines of an ability to program the box to tell the govt that all was well - the seat belts were fastened with care and the speed limits were being obeyed. Sort of like the aftermarket O2 sensors that tell the car computer all is within specs, often used on hot rod

Re: [MBZ] Police start using 'black boxes' in car crash investigations

2013-07-23 Thread Rolf
I wont own a car with one. -Rolf On 7/23/2013 4:28 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: You might be surprised at how big the market would be. Randy On 23/07/2013 3:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: That would be for a very limited market. On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Randy Bennell

Re: [MBZ] OT: Puppy Linux

2013-07-23 Thread Randy Bennell
Does the linux forum still exist? Randy On 23/07/2013 10:49 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Too late, you're a snob :) My theory was that a really really lightweight distro on pretty good hardware (core duo 2.something, 4GB RAM) would give excellent performance even running the OS off a USB drive.

Re: [MBZ] Police start using 'black boxes' in car crash investigations

2013-07-23 Thread Randy Bennell
However, if you have nothing to hide, it might well save you from allegations of wrong doing. Randy On 23/07/2013 3:33 PM, Rolf wrote: I wont own a car with one. -Rolf On 7/23/2013 4:28 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: You might be surprised at how big the market would be. Randy On 23/07/2013

Re: [MBZ] OT: Puppy Linux

2013-07-23 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I think that was subsumed within the Lucy forum On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Does the linux forum still exist? Randy On 23/07/2013 10:49 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Too late, you're a snob :) My theory was that a really really lightweight distro

Re: [MBZ] Police start using 'black boxes' in car crash investigations

2013-07-23 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
This is why my new car is from 1985. On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: However, if you have nothing to hide, it might well save you from allegations of wrong doing. Randy On 23/07/2013 3:33 PM, Rolf wrote: I wont own a car with one. -Rolf On

[MBZ] Totally OT - house painting

2013-07-23 Thread Randy Bennell
I am stuck with the task of painting the house. Not a huge job as most of it is stucco and not painted. Just trim to do and much of that - soffits, fascia, gable ends - was covered in aluminum a few years back so not terrible. The house has the boards in the stucco - faux tudor look and the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Puppy Linux

2013-07-23 Thread Randy Bennell
Seriously, was there not a linux forum along with this one and banned etc? Randy On 23/07/2013 3:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I think that was subsumed within the Lucy forum On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Does the linux forum still exist?

Re: [MBZ] Police start using 'black boxes' in car crash investigations

2013-07-23 Thread Allan Streib
If there were a way to ensure that the data were only made available in a crash investigation I would not really oppose it. There is something of a public good served in being able to show that a person was driving negligently and caused an accident, thus making him more likely to be held

Re: [MBZ] OT: Puppy Linux

2013-07-23 Thread Rich Thomas
Yes just send to Linux list (if you are signed up for it on okiebenz) --R On 7/23/13 5:01 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: Seriously, was there not a linux forum along with this one and banned etc? Randy On 23/07/2013 3:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I think that was subsumed within the Lucy

Re: [MBZ] Totally OT - house painting

2013-07-23 Thread Rich Thomas
You could do a solid stain instead of paint, once you get everything sanded and scraped. It tends to just fade rather than peel but you likely would need to redo it ever coupla-three years. --R On 7/23/13 5:00 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: I am stuck with the task of painting the house. Not a

Re: [MBZ] OT: Puppy Linux

2013-07-23 Thread Randy Bennell
I was at one time but that was a long while back. Have never used Linux, just have an interest in trying it out sometime. Randy On 23/07/2013 4:12 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Yes just send to Linux list (if you are signed up for it on okiebenz) --R On 7/23/13 5:01 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Asiana, etc.

2013-07-23 Thread Allan Streib
Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com writes: My college roommate is an expert on human factors and he agrees 100 percent that it was the excessive reliance on automated controls, plus a Korean cultural inclination to reinforce this reliance, that led to the crash. The speculation on the

Re: [MBZ] Totally OT - house painting

2013-07-23 Thread Randy Bennell
That was what it had to begin with, 32 years ago. We painted a few years later. I won't be scraping or sanding to bare wood in more than a few spots if I can help it. The wood is rough sawn and that would change the look. Randy On 23/07/2013 4:14 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: You could do a solid

Re: [MBZ] Asiana, etc.

2013-07-23 Thread Randy Bennell
On 23/07/2013 4:21 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com writes: My college roommate is an expert on human factors and he agrees 100 percent that it was the excessive reliance on automated controls, plus a Korean cultural inclination to reinforce this reliance, that

Re: [MBZ] OT - Asiana

2013-07-23 Thread Scott Ritchey
In a prior life as a student at the USAF Test Pilot School, we had a two-week field trip that included the TWA simulation center in Kansas City. I'll never forget what one of the TWA instructors told us. I'm not sure of his exact words but the gist was: You need to understand that these guys

Re: [MBZ] Asiana, etc.

2013-07-23 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Supposedly, Koreans will never question technology, even if it is plunging an aircraft into a sea wall. On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 23/07/2013 4:21 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com writes: My college roommate

[MBZ] CL angel from on high.....

2013-07-23 Thread Rolf
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3953346747.html PWWTTTYYY as my 2yr old would say. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] OT: Puppy Linux

2013-07-23 Thread Craig
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 15:52:37 -0500 Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Does the linux forum still exist? Yes, although the traffic has been very low. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] OT: Puppy Linux

2013-07-23 Thread Randy Bennell
On 23/07/2013 4:53 PM, Craig wrote: On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 15:52:37 -0500 Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Does the linux forum still exist? Yes, although the traffic has been very low. Craig ___ It generally was. Randy

Re: [MBZ] Asiana, etc.

2013-07-23 Thread WILTON
I've never had any problem calling it out, not only saving my behind but several others, as well. 'Part of our crew training - A crew is a team; lives, sleeps, eats, fights as a team. 'Reminds me of something Patton said about a team and the bilious bastards who wrote that stuff about

Re: [MBZ] Asiana, etc.

2013-07-23 Thread WILTON
'Think I rather save your behind and mine first and discuss face-saving later if necessary. Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Asiana,

Re: [MBZ] OT: Puppy Linux

2013-07-23 Thread Fmiser
Randy Bennell wrote: Does the linux forum still exist? Craig wrote: Yes, although the traffic has been very low. Last post I see: Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2012 12:38:54 -0400 -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] OT - Asiana

2013-07-23 Thread Craig
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 17:29:13 -0400 Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: In a prior life as a student at the USAF Test Pilot School, we had a two-week field trip that included the TWA simulation center in Kansas City. I'll never forget what one of the TWA instructors told us. I'm not

Re: [MBZ] CL angel from on high.....

2013-07-23 Thread Craig
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 17:48:47 -0400 Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3953346747.html PWWTTTYYY as my 2yr old would say. Yes, it is mighty pretty. I cannot afford the $25k price tag, though. Craig

Re: [MBZ] Totally OT - house painting

2013-07-23 Thread WILTON
Welcome aboard! Mine's (2-story Georgian colonial revival; all wood clapboard siding with slate roof, painted sheet steel on widow's walk and hidden gutters) badly in need of such again. Need some roof repairs first, especially to roof on widow's walk and gutters, then repairs to soffits,

Re: [MBZ] CL angel from on high.....

2013-07-23 Thread Jon Agne
If I had the 25k, I'd think about it. On Jul 23, 2013, at 6:42 PM, Craig wrote: On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 17:48:47 -0400 Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/3953346747.html PWWTTTYYY as my 2yr old would say. Yes, it is

Re: [MBZ] Asiana, etc.

2013-07-23 Thread Fmiser
WILTON wrote: 'Think I rather save your behind and mine first and discuss face-saving later if necessary. But you aren't Asian. For may of them, they would rather be dead than loose face. Face - or respectability - is more valuable than life. Look at WWII, or Vietnam war, or Korean war.

Re: [MBZ] drop dead gorgeous

2013-07-23 Thread MG
It's a 250 MM. Manfred Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 14:45:40 -0400 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net Definitely not a 250 GTO, but it could be a different 250 GT. This is a GTO:

Re: [MBZ] Asiana, etc.

2013-07-23 Thread Rich Thomas
They could get face lifts --R On 7/23/13 6:57 PM, Fmiser wrote: WILTON wrote: 'Think I rather save your behind and mine first and discuss face-saving later if necessary. But you aren't Asian. For may of them, they would rather be dead than loose face. Face - or respectability - is more

Re: [MBZ] Asiana, etc.

2013-07-23 Thread Allan Streib
WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes: 'Think I rather save your behind and mine first and discuss face-saving later if necessary. That's the thing... you and I would. The asian culture of saving face leads to junior officers keeping their mouths shut while the senior pilot flies them into a

Re: [MBZ] Asiana, etc.

2013-07-23 Thread Allan Streib
Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com writes: Supposedly, Koreans will never question technology, even if it is plunging an aircraft into a sea wall. I have not heard that about technology. I have heard that they will not be inclined to point out a mistake by the pilot in command. This was

Re: [MBZ] OT: Puppy Linux

2013-07-23 Thread Allan Streib
Craig diese...@pisquared.net writes: On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 15:52:37 -0500 Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Does the linux forum still exist? Yes, although the traffic has been very low. As I recall, it got created when Lt. Don (aka wonko) got interested in Linux. Since he's not

Re: [MBZ] Totally OT - house painting

2013-07-23 Thread Craig
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 18:44:40 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Not able to do it now, though; 'been waiting 2 weeks now for roofers and carpenters to come and talk to me about doing some repairs. They promise to come but don't show up and never call to 'splain anything. Doesn't that

Re: [MBZ] Totally OT - house painting

2013-07-23 Thread dseretakis
Plastic replacement windows are garbage. They break in 7-20 years and they look ugly. The original wooden ones have a life span of 80-300+ years and look great. Vinyl siding, while low maintenance is not exactly pretty to look at! Sent from my iPhone On Jul 23, 2013, at 5:00 PM, Randy Bennell

Re: [MBZ] Totally OT - house painting

2013-07-23 Thread Rich Thomas
The good ones have stayed busy through the downturn, now things are picking up a bit and they are probably more busy. You need to get in the queue, and even then more lucrative projects take precedence. I have been trying for a month to get my local AC guy over, he has been slammed with new

[MBZ] Trivia question

2013-07-23 Thread Rich Thomas
The 1955 300 SLR spotted at the 2011 Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance. Trivia question: At the 1955 Mille Miglia, what did the number 722 mean for driver Stirling Moss? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] Totally OT - house painting

2013-07-23 Thread Craig
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 19:24:39 -0400 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Plastic replacement windows are garbage. They break in 7-20 years and they look ugly. It depends upon what you mean by plastic replacement windows. If you mean the ones that are truly made out of plastic (PVC or whatever), I can

Re: [MBZ] Trivia question

2013-07-23 Thread Craig
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 19:30:05 -0400 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: The 1955 300 SLR spotted at the 2011 Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance. Trivia question: At the 1955 Mille Miglia, what did the number 722 mean for driver

[MBZ] Who wins in U.S. vs Europe contest?

2013-07-23 Thread Gerry Archer
Gerry wrote: This was posted on another group. Any truth to it? . In these days of renewed gloom about the future of Europe, a quick test is in order. Who has the world’s biggest economy? A) The United States B) China/Asia C) Europe? Who has the

Re: [MBZ] Totally OT - house painting

2013-07-23 Thread WILTON
'Zackly. Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Totally OT - house painting On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 18:44:40 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Not

Re: [MBZ] OT: Puppy Linux

2013-07-23 Thread clay
I think prior to Okie list, there was a Linux list. LT. Wonko used it clay On Jul 23, 2013, at 2:01 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: Seriously, was there not a linux forum along with this one and banned etc? Randy On 23/07/2013 3:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I think that was subsumed

Re: [MBZ] drop dead gorgeous

2013-07-23 Thread Benz Hogs
Also funny how the model on the right lands on her butt (lack of body awareness coordination) and the guy on the left twists and lands in a plank (the exact opposite). Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (168,xxx mi) On 7/23/2013 1:45 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Funny how the driver

Re: [MBZ] OT: Puppy Linux

2013-07-23 Thread Curt Raymond
Oh sure. It has almost zero traffic, usually the only thing on there is when I'm on the road and have some linux trial or tribulation... I put my message on this list in case somebody was thinking they needed an emergency OS. Puppy seems to work great for that. -Curt Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013

Re: [MBZ] OT - Asiana

2013-07-23 Thread Mountain Man
Scott wrote: I'll never forget what one of the TWA instructors told us. I'm not sure of his exact words but the gist was: You need to understand that these guys aren't really professional aviators like us. That is changing perhaps with the children of magenta. My son has similar experiences

Re: [MBZ] Asiana, etc.

2013-07-23 Thread Mountain Man
WILTON wrote: 'Part of our crew training - A crew is a team; lives, sleeps, eats, fights as a team. My son sounds like you were his instructor. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] Asiana, etc.

2013-07-23 Thread Mountain Man
Philip wrote: But you aren't Asian. For may of them, they would rather be dead than loose face. Face - or respectability - is more valuable than life. Much of that attitude is in our culture today - listen to hear it. Well, I may be wrong, but it seems to me that it is here in many areas of

Re: [MBZ] Trivia Question

2013-07-23 Thread toms cat1
722 was Stirling Moss' start time in the 1955 Mille Miglia: 7:22am, on April 30, 1955. Tom Message: 2 Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 19:30:05 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Trivia question

Re: [MBZ] A Jaime green car is boring

2013-07-23 Thread OK Don
Definately one for the quotes page !!! On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Oh for the day when my car will be judged for the content of its mechanicals and not the color of its skin --R On 7/23/13 8:00 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Re: [MBZ] CL angel from on high.....

2013-07-23 Thread OK Don
Awesome car, even if it is green --- On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: If I had the 25k, I'd think about it. On Jul 23, 2013, at 6:42 PM, Craig wrote: On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 17:48:47 -0400 Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote:

Re: [MBZ] OT - Asiana

2013-07-23 Thread Scott Ritchey
Specifics: The year was 1977. The TWA instructor was speaking to members of my TPS class: mostly USAF officers but also a Naval aviator, a Marine, a couple of Canadians, an Italian, and an Israeli (all military). The comment was made after one of my class members asked about the cockpit

Re: [MBZ] OT: Puppy Linux

2013-07-23 Thread Dieselhead
That WOULD be slow. Randy Bennell wrote: Does the linux forum still exist? Craig wrote: Yes, although the traffic has been very low. Last post I see: Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2012 12:38:54 -0400 -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] Police start using 'black boxes' in car crash investigations

2013-07-23 Thread Rick Knoble
If you own a car made in this century, you probably already own a car with a black box. They have been around a while. http://www.crashdataservices.net/Vehicles.html http://www.crashforensics.com/files/CDRVehicleList.pdf It is interesting that GM was one of the first to use CDR devices and

Re: [MBZ] Asiana, etc.

2013-07-23 Thread Scott Ritchey
Reanimation of event: http://theaviationist.com/2013/07/15/animation-asiana-air-214/#.Ue8putIzyUY ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Slow day OT -- Saturn V

2013-07-23 Thread Scott Ritchey
Hey Larry, NASA was very memorable despite the fact I drank a lot more back then. But in retrospect, every job I ever had was memorable and rewarding to me but few are as well known by the general public. Scott Larry T wrote on July 22, 2013 7:01 AM Hey Scott, we

Re: [MBZ] Totally OT - house painting

2013-07-23 Thread Mitch Haley
Randy Bennell wrote: My point in posting this, is that last evening I was working on it and wondering how many of you folks have the same issues to deal with vs how many have gone to some more modern low maintenance situation. I bought a foreclosed house last year. Should have had all those

Re: [MBZ] A Jaime green car is boring

2013-07-23 Thread Mitch Haley
Seconded. Mitch. OK Don wrote: Definately one for the quotes page !!! On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Oh for the day when my car will be judged for the content of its mechanicals and not the color of its skin

Re: [MBZ] Who wins in U.S. vs Europe contest?

2013-07-23 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Gerry, very impressive, but we own WAY more guns, which compensates for virtually everything else on the list. On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: Gerry wrote: This was posted on another group. Any truth to it?

Re: [MBZ] OT: Puppy Linux

2013-07-23 Thread Dieselhead
Oh sure. It has almost zero traffic, usually the only thing on there is when I'm on the road and have some linux trial or tribulation... I put my message on this list in case somebody was thinking they needed an emergency OS. Puppy seems to work great for that. -Curt I am delighted to hear

Re: [MBZ] A Jaime green car is boring

2013-07-23 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Rich may be funnier but my observation was truthfuller. On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Seconded. Mitch. OK Don wrote: Definately one for the quotes page !!! On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Rich Thomas

Re: [MBZ] Asiana, etc.

2013-07-23 Thread Mitch Haley
Randy Bennell wrote: One would think, that when one is about to crash, one would speak up and apologize later if need be. When your own life is on the line, it should be a bit easier to overcome the reluctance to interfere. I guess it depends on whether life means much more than face. You've

Re: [MBZ] Who wins in U.S. vs Europe contest?

2013-07-23 Thread Gerry Archer
Gerry wrote: Here's a refutation of the previous article by another (a Harvard B School grad) on the same group: Some of it is utter nonsense. If you group enough countries together, you can make a super country that's bigger than any other country. So what? If we add all the people in

Re: [MBZ] Who wins in U.S. vs Europe contest?

2013-07-23 Thread Dieselhead
Gerry, very impressive, but we own WAY more guns, which compensates for virtually everything else on the list. Hear Hear! Three Huzzahs for Andrew! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] Who wins in U.S. vs Europe contest?

2013-07-23 Thread Dieselhead
Gerry wrote: Here's a refutation of the previous article by another (a Harvard B School grad) on the same group: Some of it is utter nonsense. If you group enough countries together, you can make a super country that's bigger than any other country. So what? If we add all the people in

Re: [MBZ] Totally OT - house painting

2013-07-23 Thread Dieselhead
Randy Bennell wrote: My point in posting this, is that last evening I was working on it and wondering how many of you folks have the same issues to deal with vs how many have gone to some more modern low maintenance situation. I bought a foreclosed house last year. Should have had all those

Re: [MBZ] CL angel from on high.....

2013-07-23 Thread Rolf
Think about it like this. Its the cheapest new Mercedes you can buy today! Sent from my ASUS Pad Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: If I had the 25k, I'd think about it. On Jul 23, 2013, at 6:42 PM, Craig wrote: On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 17:48:47 -0400 Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Who wins in U.S. vs Europe contest?

2013-07-23 Thread Fmiser
Gerry wrote: This was posted on another group. Any truth to it? Europe’s Promise. Why the European Way Is the Best Hope in an Insecure Future. It marshals an impressive army of facts and comparative statistics to show that the United States is behind Europe in nearly every

Re: [MBZ] OT - Asiana

2013-07-23 Thread Craig
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 21:43:18 -0400 Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Specifics: The year was 1977. The TWA instructor was speaking to members of my TPS class: mostly USAF officers but also a Naval aviator, a Marine, a couple of Canadians, an Italian, and an Israeli (all military).

Re: [MBZ] OT: Puppy Linux

2013-07-23 Thread Fmiser
Curt wrote: I put my message on this list in case somebody was thinking they needed an emergency OS. Puppy seems to work great for that. It should do well for that. When I need something like that I usually reach for GRML http://grml.org/ or SystemRescueCD

Re: [MBZ] OT: Puppy Linux

2013-07-23 Thread Craig
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 22:40:56 -0500 Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Curt wrote: I put my message on this list in case somebody was thinking they needed an emergency OS. Puppy seems to work great for that. It should do well for that. When I need something like that I usually reach for

Re: [MBZ] CL angel from on high.....

2013-07-23 Thread Craig
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 23:31:45 -0400 Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: Think about it like this. Its the cheapest new Mercedes you can buy today! Well, yes, that's true. I really do like the looks of the 170. Craig Sent from my ASUS Pad Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: If I had the 25k,

Re: [MBZ] Who wins in U.S. vs Europe contest?

2013-07-23 Thread Rich Thomas
Well Yurp has the banana police, they don't get bendy bananas like we get in the YooEss. Yurp is much better! --R On 7/23/13 11:32 PM, Fmiser wrote: Gerry wrote: This was posted on another group. Any truth to it? Europe’s Promise. Why the European Way Is the Best Hope in an Insecure

[MBZ] Mercedes Golf Cart

2013-07-23 Thread Gerry Archer
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1713294-the-new-mercedes-benz-golf-cart-concept-takes-luxury-to-a-whole-new-level?utm_source=cnn.comutm_medium=referralutm_campaign=editorialhpt=hp_t5 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives