Re: [MBZ] OIL THREAD

2014-09-28 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Using M1 in the only OM617 I ever owned increased the oil consumption from a quart per 1500 miles to about 800 miles. No leaks though. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Sep 27, 2014 11:02 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dwight, If your 617 has very many miles, I'd

Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

2014-09-28 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
A new front brake disc is around $48 from the dealer. You can buy cheaper ones, but in a critical system why would you cut corners? Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 27, 2014, at 10:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: My 83 300TD. The car shudders in the rear when I brake. I

Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

2014-09-28 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 09:43:04 -0400 Gary Hurst via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: cause chinese garbage is fun! So which brands are not chinese garbage? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

2014-09-28 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 10:34:45 -0400 Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: zimmermann, balo and mercedes are not chinese. the rest all are. i usually sell the zimmermann or balo coated versions i don't see why one would prefer chinese blanks finished in china vs italian blanks finished in

Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

2014-09-28 Thread Gary Hurst via Mercedes
i can't say they are definitive bad products but when they went chinese without dropping the prices, well, i didn't feel any need to think about them anymore. if they are going to go chinese and not pass on any of the savings to the end user, then what kind of people are they? On Sun, Sep 28,

Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

2014-09-28 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
So, do have alternatives that you do think about now? On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: i can't say they are definitive bad products but when they went chinese without dropping the prices, well, i didn't feel any need to think about them

[MBZ] 1992 300E 2.6 Oil Leak

2014-09-28 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
This car has an oil leak somewhere on the front of the engine or in one of the driven elements. I can't find it, but it's pretty profuse in that it's losing maybe half a quart of oil every week. Definitely leaking, nothing coming out the tailpipe. I would swear that it's the air pump. Being

Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

2014-09-28 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 09:43:04 -0400 Gary Hurst via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: cause chinese garbage is fun! So which brands are not chinese garbage? I don't mind Chinese garbage, as long as I don't pay much more than $1/lb for it. But I'm with Gary, if

Re: [MBZ] Vise Grips: was Brake rotors

2014-09-28 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
FYI, the vise grips are made in non-slave labor Taiwan, not China. IME tools from Taiwan are usually much better than ones from China. Also, Irwin seems to have better quality control on their outsourced tools than some other companies. I have bought a couple of the Taiwan vise-grips (the micro

Re: [MBZ] OT: Having fun with malicious people

2014-09-28 Thread LarryT via Mercedes
When I was in High School there was a guy with the unfortunate name of Lynn Burger. Too bad his parents couldn't see how he would suffer from the obvious connection kids make with names.. LarryT On 9/27/2014 11:12 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 19:50:20 -0400 archer75---

Re: [MBZ] OIL THREAD

2014-09-28 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Marshall Booth researched the leaking seals/Mobil 1 problem and found that it was a significant defect when Mobil 1 first came on the market. Changes were made in the formula which solved the problem. Gerry Dwight Giles wrote: Thanks Roger, I used mobil 1 in both my OM616's; I put abot 7

Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

2014-09-28 Thread Gary Hurst via Mercedes
zimmermann and balo are still german as is mercedes. if you get the coated zim or balo, you are basically at the latest mercedes spec but they are not OEM as mercedes finishes their own rotors in house. those are probably the only 3 i sell anymore, with a slight bias for zimmermann but i don't

Re: [MBZ] OIL THREAD

2014-09-28 Thread Gary Hurst via Mercedes
i just wish to avoid an environment of hysteria where if someone drops a quart of mobil 1 by mistake, the he must now get it out ASAP. i personally don't know of mobil 1 causing any leak issues since back in the very early days On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 11:33 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes

[MBZ] Becker BE 1480 Cassette plays but the silence is deafening

2014-09-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I bought an as is Becker 1480 AM/FM cassette on ebay for my 1983 300TD. The unit is in pristine condition. AM and FM stations work perfectly and the cassette loads/ejects/switches tracks/fast forwards and reverses when a tape is inserted; however, there is NO SOUND when a tape is playing! (The

Re: [MBZ] Becker BE 1480 Cassette plays but the silence is deafening

2014-09-28 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Can you return it for a refund? Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Vise Grips: was Brake rotors

2014-09-28 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Very common in Taiwan. I used to visit Kaohsiung, Taiwan, a large industrial port city on the south end of the island, several times a year. We had a distributor there that sold our products, and they did very well. The were located in a large light industrial park, surrounded by smaller

Re: [MBZ] B-36 With Tank Treads??

2014-09-28 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
AT wrote: And in comparison to the B-36 and B-52, we now have the B-1B with an empty weight of 182,000 lb, maximum gross weight of 477,000 lb... I remember 18 years ago taking a ride on the new 777. The pilot was proud to compare his new 777 with the familiar B-52. B-52 had 8 engines and

Re: [MBZ] Becker BE 1480 Cassette plays but the silence is deafening

2014-09-28 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Call Eddie or Tom at Becker in the morning and they might be able to give you some direction. I was a little miffed at them recently, as I had bought a 1492 back in December as an advance exchange but never installed it as I had changed cars around that time. I went to put it in the S420 the

Re: [MBZ] B-36 With Tank Treads??

2014-09-28 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
AT wrote: And in comparison to the B-36 and B-52, we now have the B-1B with an empty weight of 182,000 lb, maximum gross weight of 477,000 lb... I remember 18 years ago taking a ride on the new 777. The pilot was proud to compare his new 777 with the familiar B-52. B-52 had 8 engines and

Re: [MBZ] Becker BE 1480 Cassette plays but the silence is deafening

2014-09-28 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes
On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: buttons but they have no effect. Any ideas what might be the cause of this problem? Is the head engaging when the cassette goes down? Maybe it got forced back when someone tried to recover a stuck

Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

2014-09-28 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Gary wrote: if they are going to go chinese and not pass on any of the savings to the end user, then what kind of people are they? What kind of people are they? They are just another Mitt Romney or Bruce Rouner. Astounding that we continue to laud and honor and desire these type of people. We

Re: [MBZ] B-36 With Tank Treads??

2014-09-28 Thread Addison Thompson via Mercedes
The 777 is an awesome airliner. On Sep 28, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: AT wrote: And in comparison to the B-36 and B-52, we now have the B-1B with an empty weight of 182,000 lb, maximum gross weight of 477,000 lb... I remember 18 years ago taking a ride

Re: [MBZ] OT: Having fun with malicious people

2014-09-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I don't get it. On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 2:50 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: When I was in High School there was a guy with the unfortunate name of Lynn Burger. Too bad his parents couldn't see how he would suffer from the obvious connection kids make with names..

Re: [MBZ] OT: Having fun with malicious people

2014-09-28 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Andrew wrote: I don't get it. Ya gotta think like a kid. You can do it. Get it? ma Larry wrote: When I was in High School there was a guy with the unfortunate name of Lynn Burger. ...limburger... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] B-36 With Tank Treads??

2014-09-28 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Yep, the 1960-era TF-33 engines on the B-52H produce only 17,000 lbs thrust each, efficient and powerful for 1960, but way behind modern engines. Several years ago, Boeing tried to get USAF to replace the eight engines with four much newer and more efficient engines that were already airliner

Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

2014-09-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
How could Bosch be Chinese? On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Gary wrote: if they are going to go chinese and not pass on any of the savings to the end user, then what kind of people are they? What kind of people are they? They are

Re: [MBZ] Vise Grips: was Brake rotors

2014-09-28 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Dan wrote: ...they had the new mill assembled and painted, sitting next to the original, having been reassembled. You couldn't tell the difference. This corroborates what I have heard for years - the oriental way is to copy and make exact copies for less cost. Somehow that seems a bit over

Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

2014-09-28 Thread Gary Hurst via Mercedes
it's a box. do you imagine there is a bosch brake rotor factory in teh black forest? On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: How could Bosch be Chinese? On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] B-36 With Tank Treads??

2014-09-28 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
WILTON wrote: Several years ago, Boeing tried to get USAF to replace the eight engines with four much newer and more efficient engines that were already airliner surplus at the time and producing about 40,000 lbs each. Air Force refused - didn't want a private company to have control of its

Re: [MBZ] Becker BE 1480 Cassette plays but the silence is deafening

2014-09-28 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes
On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: If a tape had previously jammed I doubt the cassette would engage/eject, play in fw/reverse, and FF and RW to memory. Peraps I just need to run a cassette head cleaner? Hard to say, usually the head doesn't

Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

2014-09-28 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Gary wrote: it's a box. do you imagine there is a bosch brake rotor factory in teh black forest? It is the same in every sector of our economy and all economies of the planet. Medicine, manufacturing, consulting, design - it is all sourced to chink/India and is generally poor quality. Poorer

Re: [MBZ] Becker BE 1480 Cassette plays but the silence is deafening

2014-09-28 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
-Tim wrote: For a few dollars on eBay, you could buy... There we go. That is the kwality argument of markets - NOT!! Some schmuck like Romney/Rounder/Gates/Jobs makes the millions sourcing chink products we want and pay pennies - they reap profits. I'm afraid my only use for ebay is vintage

Re: [MBZ] OT: Having fun with malicious people

2014-09-28 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Andrew wrote: That would not work in the east. Nobody eats or has even heard of Limburger around here... (DC - mid Atlantic) Say it ain't so. ma ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] Becker BE 1480 Cassette plays but the silence is deafening

2014-09-28 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes
On Sep 28, 2014 6:36 PM, MountainMan via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Some schmuck like Romney/Rounder/Gates/Jobs makes the millions sourcing chink products we want and pay pennies - they reap profits. You know, on eBay you can source directly from China/Taiwan/Korea. I'm afraid my

Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

2014-09-28 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Gary wrote: zimmermann and balo are still german as is mercedes. ... those are probably the only 3 i sell anymore... Excellent parts supplier info - thank you Gary!! ma ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] OT: Having fun with malicious people

2014-09-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I've eaten it once in my longish life. On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 6:39 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew wrote: That would not work in the east. Nobody eats or has even heard of Limburger around here... (DC - mid Atlantic) Say it ain't so. ma

Re: [MBZ] OIL THREAD

2014-09-28 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
My seals leak no matter what oil I put in. So I run the good stuff. I did put some regular DINO in last change, but it made no difference. Leaky seals are leaky seals. Oil type makes no difference. I think in the past seals were made of leather and various other porous materials that could react

Re: [MBZ] Becker BE 1480 Cassette plays but the silence is deafening

2014-09-28 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Tim wrote: I'm not trying to start a war on the concept of international trade, just trying to help out with a situation I've been through. It's not against the okiebenz rules to delve in to international trade. So, from time to time we bash PRC stuff. My effort to purchase USA is to make a

Re: [MBZ] 1992 300E 2.6 Oil Leak

2014-09-28 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
More likely the upper timing chain cover. Oil leaks out the corner on the right side and runs down the engine block, worse while at speed that idling so you don't see it much. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

[MBZ] OT FM

2014-09-28 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
FM modulator. Is that similar to a hot water heater? Sorry, I'll shut up now... ;) Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: