Re: [MBZ] single payer health insurance

1: First, old people starved to death if they ran out of money and their children couldn't help them. Documentation please? So now with all this goobermnt largess, nobody ever starves to death, or freezes for lack of heating, or receives less than ideal medical car due to obamacare? I'd

Re: [MBZ] single payer health insurance

Question: If your health care is too expensive for you to pay for it, why is it OK to force others pay for it? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] single payer health insurance

i am a capitalist but do believe in sharing the wealth in many ways thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins Most of us believe in sharing the wealth; But we don't believe in being forced to "share" at gunpoint. Nor is forcing people to "share" one of the legitimate powers of the federal

Re: [MBZ] Cellulosic ethanol

> On October 31, 2015 at 1:58 PM fmiser via Mercedes wrote: Where in the federal consti tution does it indicate the national government is responsible for paying the medical bills of the citizens? And where is there con stitutional authority for collecting and

Re: [MBZ] single payer health insurance

OK Don wrote: It makes the point that security is the primary reason seniors like their Medicare. Security is fear. Can't we live without welfare medical Medicare? We did 80 years ago. I suspect if we cancelled our fear, we could do many things as people. Is it possible that Medicare

Re: [MBZ] OT - How the Mighty Have Fallen

I loved KEH for their conservative grading system. I can recall once buying a cheap BGN zoom for a 35mm SLR I had. I was amazed when I got it, as it was really pretty nice. They don’t seem to have nearly as much product as they used to. Prices on odd stuff like wide field cameras still seem

Re: [MBZ] Cellulosic ethanol

Curt, you are repeating someone elses sound bites. The Republicans have put forth many plans and ideas to replace Obamacare, and you can see some of them in the platforms of the current GOP candidates. I think Ben Carson has some of the best ideas (tax privileged Health Savings accounts, funded

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Way OT: Where does my dryer vent?

Baby, go git me mah Camels! --R On 10/31/15 11:07 AM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: Yep, I considered pneumoconiosis, but didn't feel confident enough to suggest it. ;<) Anyway, a potentially serious lung problem. 'Point is it's not good to suck heavily lint-laden air into your lungs for most

Re: [MBZ] Cellulosic ethanol

<<... take all the InsCos out of the middle and let the consumers work directly with the docs: in other words, More Liberty and Less Government>> Yes, But insurance for catastrophic events makes sense. Having insurance pay for normal everyday medical costs would be like buying auto insurance to

Re: [MBZ] Cellulosic ethanol

> > Curt wrote: > > > > The Republicans all like to shout how bad Obamacare is > > but the alternative is nothing, That is bad? Where in the federal consti tution does it indicate the national government is responsible for paying the medical bills of the citizens? And where is there con

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Way OT: Where does my dryer vent?

Yep, that, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" To: Cc: "Rich Thomas" Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: Way OT: Where does my dryer vent?

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Way OT: Where does my dryer vent?

Any part of the country where swamp coolers are effective is probably a place where venting the dryer into the house, suitably filtered, would probably be a good idea. Our house has a water boiler in the heating duct for humidification, and when it was working it basically couldn't do enough

Re: [MBZ] single payer health insurance

In my personal experience living in "Socialist" Canada, the very best thing about living there was the knowledge that I didn't have to worry about being bankrupted by getting sick. Unlike here were I have shelled out about 4k in medical expenses this year AFTER my insurance paid. My

Re: [MBZ] single payer health insurance

I lived in Canada for 5 years and was covered by BC Med. But I also maintained Blue Cross because I knew that the Canadian system has some serious shortcomings. Some of my neighbors in Canada were on long waiting lists for medical procedures, sometimes having appointments cancelled on short notice

Re: [MBZ] ? SD engine mounts

I only do this on new to me cars, once I've been driving one for six months my cars don't need it. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From:"Karl Wittnebel" Date:Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 1:04 PM Subject:Re: [MBZ] ? SD engine mounts I've never used purge or felt the need.

Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES-POOL, COOLERS, BARRIERS & MORE LEAKS

On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 14:58:53 -0400 WILTON via Mercedes wrote: > Yep, 'nother one. > > GEORGE - POOL, COOLERS, BARRIERS & MORE LEAKS > By Wilton Strickland, LtCol, USAF (Ret) Thank you, Wilton, for all of your tales. Thank you also for all of your work to keep Uncle Sam's

[MBZ] single payer health insurance

here's a good liberal article that says why we should have single payer health insurance http://www.salon.com/2015/06/26/americas_health_care_system_is_still_broken_why_single_payer_is_the_only_thing_that_will_ever_fix_it/ most western countries can manage it Canada, UK, France, Portugal,

[MBZ] Who wants a $25k W140..Jaime? Jon?

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Re: [MBZ] Poly-ticks

Rand's plan, if you could call it that, to derail the budget is one which will assure a democrat willing in 2016. If the Republicans shut down the government while they are in the majority they will be punished severely... -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes To:

Re: [MBZ] Cellulosic ethanol

A plan to keep poor people poor and rich people rich you mean? They've never put forward any kind of comprehensive plan. Ben Carson couldn't economy his way out of a paper bag. His plan doesn't make any sense and the numbers don't add up. He intends to tax poor people more and rich people less,

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Way OT: Where does my dryer vent?

> Lungs getting clogged with fibers much like asbestosis or silicosis - 'can't > remember what it's called. Fibrosis? > Wilton Closest would be pneumoconiosis which is any disease caused by the inhalation of dust. Asbestosis is the commonest disease caused by the inhalation of fibers.

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Way OT: Where does my dryer vent?

Yep, I considered pneumoconiosis, but didn't feel confident enough to suggest it. ;<) Anyway, a potentially serious lung problem. 'Point is it's not good to suck heavily lint-laden air into your lungs for most of the day every day. Wilton - Original Message - From: "archer75--- via

Re: [MBZ] ? SD engine mounts

I've never used purge or felt the need. Perhaps because I drive around in gears 1-2 a lot at 4000+ rpm. I get dirty looks but 1st at 4500rpm is still under 30mph. Even got inadvertantly raced by a maserati yesterday. Pathetic. Money apparently cannot buy self esteem - who knew? On Oct 30, 2015

Re: [MBZ] Kid blows up car

Curly wrote: > ...until he fixes car or sweeps enough floors, bags enough groceries... Only in the world of your memories, old guy. It ain't like that today. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] more letterpress hauler

Grant wrote: > The "RailGate" stays flat and travels parallel to the truck floor... That truck had a folding lift gate of some sort, didn't it? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] single payer health insurance

xx rick wrote: > most western countries can manage it Remove fear from the aspect of health that sells insurance and costs can be much lower. What, Me worry? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] single payer health insurance

A good article on one successful single payer system: http://www.theweek.com/articles/585955/why-republicans-are-hellbent-destroying-medicare It makes the point that security is the primary reason seniors like their Medicare. On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 7:46 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <

Re: [MBZ] single payer health insurance

OK Don wrote: > It makes the point that security is the primary reason seniors like their > Medicare. Security is fear. Can't we live without welfare medical Medicare? We did 80 years ago. I suspect if we cancelled our fear, we could do many things as people. Is it possible that Medicare social

Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - DESKS, GREMLINS AND BARRICADES

Curt wrote: > You need a Kill-a-watt meter... Okay - I think the library loans that device out. > ...devices that are on even when they're off. Meter stops spinning when all circuits are turned off. That doesn't eliminate the problem but comes close? Thanks. mao

Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - DESKS, GREMLINS AND BARRICADES

WILTON wrote: > Never had another problem with it after we replaced all > of the underground system. That can happen easily, I suppose. It's only 20 between the meter and the house. Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] single payer health insurance

On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 7:59 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Is it possible that Medicare social welfare > can contribute to national decline and eventual failure? > In a word, no. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US

Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - DESKS, GREMLINS AND BARRICADES

Andrew wrote: > I wish I could turn back my Pepco meter the way an odometer can be > rewound. My electric bills are ridiculous. How much $/kwh are you paying? I pay $0.059/kwh and then other addons. I dislike the various calls to switch to different supplier. Those guys gotta know they are

Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - DESKS, GREMLINS AND BARRICADES

Mao sez: >‎I pay $0.059/kwh  Well that's a bargain.  Rick  Sent from my BlackBerry Z10‎ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Cellulosic ethanol

Curt wrote: > In fact if I were Obama I'd drop the affordable care act and say it was all a > mistake and I now sided with the Republicans. The Republicans for their part > would then FORCE Obama to run the law as written just because they want to be > against anything he's for. > Nice plan!!

Re: [MBZ] Cellulosic ethanol

Curt wrote: > Ben Carson couldn't economy his way out of a paper bag. It seems like you think that is a negative? That is the biggest plus I see in Dr. Ben Carson. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] Cellulosic ethanol

fmiser wrote: > Where in the federal consti tution does it indicate the > national government is responsible for paying the medical > bills of the citizens? And where is there con stitutional > authority for collecting and dispersing money for such uses? Read this:

Re: [MBZ] Cellulosic ethanol

Greg wrote: > Give the individual the bargaining power now held by the inscos. Inscos see the big basket of $$ and take. People give, with love, sincerity, heart. Inscos only take, for their CEO. There are places that don't do insco and people live well. mao

Re: [MBZ] Cellulosic ethanol

> On October 31, 2015 at 9:59 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > His plan doesn't make any sense and the numbers don't add up. He intends to > tax poor people more and rich people less, thats not gonna work and he's never > ever going to get it past congress if he

Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - DESKS, GREMLINS AND BARRICADES

> On October 31, 2015 at 9:17 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Mao sez: > > >‎I pay $0.059/kwh  > > Well that's a bargain.  Mine's about 0.144 including taxes but not including the $7.50 monthly fee. Mitch. ___

Re: [MBZ] Cellulosic ethanol

Mitch wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoEJ-D2bgc0 > > http://www.constitutionparty.com/assets/Brochure-Not-Yours-To-Give-Generic2.pdf Not even 50 years later from the writing of Bastiat. Very nice, Davey Crockett. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] ? SD engine mounts

CO\ome to think of it, I haven't "purged" in years either. I guess I have no symptoms. On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I only do this on new to me cars, once I've been driving one for six > months my cars don't need it. > > > Curt > >

Re: [MBZ] Poly-ticks

Maybe, but they will have made their point! On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Rand's plan, if you could call it that, to derail the budget is one which > will assure a democrat willing in 2016. If the Republicans shut down the >

Re: [MBZ] Who wants a $25k W140..Jaime? Jon?

There's quite a gap between the starting bid and BIN price. I bet that the first person to bid $25K "owns" the car when the seller decides to lower his reserve to $24,999. Still, nice looking vehicle. On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 5:01 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >

Re: [MBZ] Who wants a $25k W140..Jaime? Jon?

Yeah, this came up in a discussion on BW earlier in the week. Pretty stupid, but, some people just have to learn. Some guy just put a 1987 560SL with fairly low miles (50k) on BW earlier today for what I thought was an outrageous price, but then again, there are people out there who might pay

Re: [MBZ] Who wants a $25k W140..Jaime? Jon?

Yup. Crackheads abound. Here's a car for those in the PNW. ‎https://mercedessource.com/store/kents-1968-280sel-sale-now-w-4-speed-manual-and-45-rearend Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 Original Message From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 6:20 PM To: Mercedes List

Re: [MBZ] Who wants a $25k W140..Jaime? Jon?

Not a bad car. Doing a head gasket on these engines is pretty simple. No AC, but a decent looking car. His price is a little high I think, but considering that it’s a stick it might not be that far out of the ballpark. Dan > On Oct 31, 2015, at 7:36 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - DESKS, GREMLINS AND BARRICADES

> On October 31, 2015 at 5:56 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > > I wish I could turn back my Pepco meter the way an odometer can be > rewound. My electric bills are ridiculous. I know what you mean. Consumers billed me $56 this month. (and I paid my

Re: [MBZ] Cellulosic ethanol

> On October 31, 2015 at 2:26 PM Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes > wrote: > > Also, although I generally think the less regulations the better, I would > require all providers to prominently post the costs of common procedures in > order to encourage competition. Give the

Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - DESKS, GREMLINS AND BARRICADES

I wish I could turn back my Pepco meter the way an odometer can be rewound. My electric bills are ridiculous. On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 3:57 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: > Does the meter absolutely STOP with "all electric off," or does it > continue creep indicating some

Re: [MBZ] single payer health insurance

Canadian health care is run by the Provinces, not the National Government. I lived in Ontario, very few complaints there other than some of the supiditiies in the law due to it being last updated properly in the mid 1950s. Not covering hip replacements after age 65, and putting people

Re: [MBZ] Poly-ticks

If the Rs pass their own budget instead of rubber stamping the administration's budget (and there are some doozies in the administration proposal that should not be passed) and the POTUS vetoes it, just who is 'shutting down the government'? I can give you one guess as to who the media, and those

Re: [MBZ] Who wants a $25k W140..Jaime? Jon?

Anwar82 will ship to the US. Unh huh. --R On 10/31/15 5:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: There's quite a gap between the starting bid and BIN price. I bet that the first person to bid $25K "owns" the car when the seller decides to lower his reserve to $24,999. Still, nice looking

Re: [MBZ] Who wants a $25k W140..Jaime? Jon?

Just watched the second video that covers the flaws. He’s on crack or he’s been sniffing starter fluid. Dan > On Oct 31, 2015, at 7:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Not a bad car. Doing a head gasket on these engines is pretty simple. No > AC, but a

Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - DESKS, GREMLINS AND BARRICADES

On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 15:57:09 -0400 WILTON via Mercedes wrote: > 'Spose the magnetic field so near the transformer was causing the meter > to run a bit backward when I was using no power? It's entirely possible, since the meter turns by magnetic fields. Craig

Re: [MBZ] Cellulosic ethanol

> On October 31, 2015 at 1:58 PM fmiser via Mercedes > wrote: > > Where in the federal consti tution does it indicate the > national government is responsible for paying the medical > bills of the citizens? And where is there con stitutional > authority for collecting

Re: [MBZ] OT - GEORGE TALES - DESKS, GREMLINS AND BARRICADES

Mitch wrote: > Mine's about 0.144 including taxes but not including the $7.50 monthly fee. Give the rate not including taxes. I did not include taxes and fees. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] single payer health insurance

OK Don wrote: > In a word, no. Listen to Davey Crockett. Read The Law. I agree with you. The issue is this, perhaps. One stray step away from Liberty to care for the old-folks (me) via Medicare and we begin the slide that the founders knew and wanted to establish AGAINST - tyranny. I take my

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Way OT: Where does my dryer vent?

Byssinosis? Brown lung? Monday cough? >From spinning mills before OSHA. From: Mercedes on behalf of WILTON via Mercedes Sent: 31 October 2015 15:07 To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: WILTON Subject:

Re: [MBZ] single payer health insurance

Two things to consider about lack of social security and medicare 80 years ago. First, old people starved to death if they ran out of money and their children couldn't help them. Poverty once people were unable to work six days a week was the norm, and since people made even less in wages