Besides the fact that the persons most likely to give up that information
already work for the car makers...
-Curt
On Friday, October 2, 2020, 12:32:42 AM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes
wrote:
Obscurity is not security.
If the car can be "stolen" by "hackers" the manufacturer needs
Obscurity is not security.
If the car can be "stolen" by "hackers" the manufacturer needs to fix
the insecurities that make that possible.
Allan
Curt Raymond via Mercedes writes:
> MA has a big "right to repair" bill in the next voting cycle. The
> automakers are using major scare tactics
Well the problem has started to return -- so if the fluid is magic it
was used quickly.
I guess there is an inline filter in the line to the cooler. I was told the
filter was internal to the transmission and not replacable without
disassembly.
MA has a big "right to repair" bill in the next voting cycle. The automakers
are using major scare tactics "This bill will give hackers all the information
on your car, they'll steal everything!"
-Curt
On Thursday, October 1, 2020, 9:20:38 PM EDT, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
wrote:
And smoke...
-Curt
On Thursday, October 1, 2020, 8:30:39 PM EDT, Jim Cathey via Mercedes
wrote:
> How easy is it to reprocess LiOn?
Apparently very easy to turn them into heat and light.
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Mitch Haley via Mercedes writes:
> Every proposal I saw for per mile taxes involved installing a GPS
> tracker in the car.
> They probably want the tracking more than they want the road tax money.
Yep. Think automatic speeding tickets based on GPS speed.
Allan
All we need is a scientific breakthrough that overcomes both the laws of
physics and reality... concurrently..
Then,,, it will work and be free..
Have to run.. I'm late for my daily Unicorn ride..
On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 3:22 PM Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
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> The
For a newer car where the computer can reveal interesting information, I
might agree. For an older car, they aren't going to tell you anything
you can't see for yourself with a visual inspection. You can tell a lot
by just looking closely. There are some good clues that the car had
proper care,
It IS possible to find a diamond on the rough with no provenance/records,
but you have to get a PPI.
On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 8:04 PM Clay via Mercedes
wrote:
> The only Benz I bought with records were from the early 1970’s. W115 had
> sparse file but lots of support manuals and receipts of
Raspberry sorbet. Delish color.
On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 4:50 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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> Looks halfway nice to me.
>
>
> https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/louisville-2000-mercedes-ml320-awd-167k/7205453943.html
>
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On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 1:37 PM OK Don via Mercedes
wrote:
> You can be sure that some of the magic smoke in the controllers, actuators,
> and computers will escape, thus requiring replacement at what I'd assume
> will be a rather high cost,
Yeah. But to revisit a recent theme, they are designing products mainly
around people who live in cities, so they can sell a few million, rather
than 4.
I am looking at my foray into om648 ECU CAN hacking as a potentially
important set of skills for ag equipment, though. It is all about who owns
Very toxic extraction process. But that is ok, as the mines are in Chile.
Probably akin to living on the sludge of the Salton Sea for health outcomes.
I have no data on reprocessing. I was forced to hand over the dead cells
(powertool, laptop, toy) on penalty of death or assault by rainbow
Until I return to a civilized city, electric cars are out of the picture. I
found the closest charging station to me is the local power plant, about four
miles away. There are four within drive range of the cars. The next is 50
miles down the road, the next another 100 beyond that, and
> How easy is it to reprocess LiOn?
Apparently very easy to turn them into heat and light.
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How much pollution is created from making the batteries and disposing of them
when they are dead?
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> On Oct 1, 2020, at 7:24 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote:
>
> I got sucked down the youtube hole last night with How Its Made. The
> episode with LiOn car batteries was dated,
Every proposal I saw for per mile taxes involved installing a GPS
tracker in the car.
They probably want the tracking more than they want the road tax money.
Mitch.
On 2020-10-01 20:17, Clay via Mercedes wrote:
Seattle and socialist Washington State just recently bumped up the
registration
I got sucked down the youtube hole last night with How Its Made. The episode
with LiOn car batteries was dated, but mentions something like a 70k mile life
in auto usage. Maybe the things are better now. Short drives of under a few
hundred miles would get you a decade or so of useable life.
Get ready.
Forbes: Tesla’s $25,000 Electric Car Means Game Over For Gas And Oil.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesmorris/2020/09/26/teslas-25000-electric-car-means-game-over-for-gas-and-oil/
On Thu, Oct 1, 2020, 5:18 PM Clay via Mercedes
wrote:
> Seattle and socialist Washington State just
Seattle and socialist Washington State just recently bumped up the registration
fee on EV and hybrids due to the lack of revenue from emission testing and gas
taxes. One favored solution is to tax per mile driven. I can picture
odometers being spun backward wholesale. Somebody will figure
The only Benz I bought with records were from the early 1970’s. W115 had
sparse file but lots of support manuals and receipts of recent work. The R107
had all records from second owner (1987 on). The rest were devoid or paperwork.
clay
1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green
2014 ‘yota
Coleman brand mantles haven't been thoriated since the '90s I think. The
Peerless mantles I use all have thorium although I guess they changed their
formula in the last year or two. I bought a bunch a few years ago and go
through them fairly slowly.
Off brand are a mixed bag, you can tell when
>But, does it use thorium???
>From what I can glean from the article, sadly no.
A couple more articles.
https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Energy/Mini-nuclear-reactors-with-key-South-Korean-parts-cleared-by-US
https://www.energy.gov/ne/nuclear-reactor-technologies/small-modular-nuclear-reactors
The high temperature superconductivity is the key to the smaller reactor, which
kind of obsoletes the ITER technology. Perhaps the time projections are
approaching reality as we overcome technological obstacles. It would be nice :-)
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Fusion is coming in the next decade (as it has been since 1955)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sJ4iCVCgA8
Craig via Mercedes writes:
> On Thu, 1 Oct 2020 20:55:26 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
>> And will the use of Thorium in reactors cause the cost of thoriated
>>
But, as they say in the investment world, past performance is not a
prediction of future performance.
Myself, I'd never dream of paying 89% of new for a used EV, especially
one that's still on the market.
Mitch.
On 2020-10-01 17:27, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
And then there is this
And then there is this to consider:
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a33935142/tesla-model-3-depreciate-electric-car/
On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 2:05 PM Karl Wittnebel wrote:
> And more directly here:
>
>
>
And more directly here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1HqBIOtNsYPalG51nAw_nubgskv4TQPGx8WhPZO4a_U8/htmlview
On Thu, Oct 1, 2020, 2:04 PM Karl Wittnebel wrote:
> Oh the maintenance stuff for the S can be found in this Video, if I recall
> correctly:
>
> https://youtu.be/rhbD44jXffY
Oh the maintenance stuff for the S can be found in this Video, if I recall
correctly:
https://youtu.be/rhbD44jXffY
On Thu, Oct 1, 2020, 1:58 PM Karl Wittnebel wrote:
> Teslas dont use brakes. They have progressive motor braking that you can
> adjust. So as you lift off the accelerator, the car
On Thu, 1 Oct 2020 20:55:26 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
wrote:
> And will the use of Thorium in reactors cause the cost of thoriated
> lantern mantles to go up?
Are they even available now? I recall hearing comments about the new
mantles being less bright because they did not have
Teslas dont use brakes. They have progressive motor braking that you can
adjust. So as you lift off the accelerator, the car slows down immediately.
No brake pedal required unless you want to stop from walking speed. The
dealer here said they have cars with over 300k miles on the original brake
And will the use of Thorium in reactors cause the cost of thoriated lantern
mantles to go up?
Curt
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On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 4:40 PM, OK Don via Mercedes
wrote: But, does it use thorium???
On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 3:37 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
Looks halfway nice to me.
https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/louisville-2000-mercedes-ml320-awd-167k/7205453943.html
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On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 3:37 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
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> Quite fancy.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 1, 2020, at 8:20 AM, Craig via Mercedes
> wrote:
> >
> >
>
I was thinking of more AV gas
On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 1:04 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> One last thought: Electric cars are good for those of us who are
> fans of ICE vehicles, more gasoline/diesel fuel for us...
> -Curt
>
>
--
OK Don
"Whenever you find
Quite fancy.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 1, 2020, at 8:20 AM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
>
> https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/south-korean-made-mini-nuclear-reactors-wont-melt-down-approved-us
>
>
> South Korean-Built Mini Nuclear Reactors That "Won't Melt Down" Approved
> For US
You can be sure that some of the magic smoke in the controllers, actuators,
and computers will escape, thus requiring replacement at what I'd assume
will be a rather high cost, like an AUM or two or three. (AUM = aviation
unit of money = $1,000)
On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 1:06 PM Curt Raymond via
My annual fuel costs for a household with two drivers is only about $1000 to
$1500. Either the price of California fuel is 5x the price here in SC, or Karl
drives far more than I. Under the Wuhan Red Death shutdown, we're probably
only spending $500 a year or less.
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBScTIDzK0I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_yGJzHOpdg
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> Karl may be able to give more accurate figures, but assuming 0.30/kWh
Here in the wilds of Washington I believe it's still $0.055/kWH, thank you BPA.
I'm sure that'll change soon, if it hasn't already, and the whole
fees/taxes/plates
thing will be along soon, if it isn't already. What was
Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes writes:
> They love their Bolts. They are on their second set of Bolts I think. Pay
> the 250/mo lease and turn it in for a new one in a few years. No
> maintenance and no fuel. Hard to get much cheaper driving than that in a
> new vehicle.
So charging them is free
A Cruze is a much bigger/more useful car than a Spark. An extra $0.02/mi is
almost certainly worth it...
-Curt
On Thursday, October 1, 2020, 2:09:37 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
wrote:
On 2020-10-01 13:57, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes writes:
>
On 2020-10-01 14:06, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
"No maintenance" is some of the hype I mentioned in my last message.
There are still brakes, they last longer than an ICE car but they will
still need replacement. Tires too.
Karl's neighbor leases, ignores maintenance (easily done for 2-3
On 2020-10-01 13:57, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes writes:
Here you can still get some sort of federal and state rebates on a
bolt and
you also save the 5k/yr in fuel, so dont forget to include that in the
calculation
Yes, but how much more do you pay in
"No maintenance" is some of the hype I mentioned in my last message. There are
still brakes, they last longer than an ICE car but they will still need
replacement. Tires too. In a Tesla Model S I could see me needing tires more
often, with that much power on tap it would be hard to stay out of
Something I just thought of: LiON batteries have a limited number of
charge/discharge cycles. I wonder if using them as surge power for the grid
would limit the lifespan.Presumably not draining them significantly would
minimize the problem but I certainly wouldn't be down for having my car's
Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes writes:
> Here you can still get some sort of federal and state rebates on a bolt and
> you also save the 5k/yr in fuel, so dont forget to include that in the
> calculation
Yes, but how much more do you pay in electricity, assuming you charge at
home using utility
My ML had lots of service records from dealers listed in the carfax Kaleb sent
me. That was a big help to pull the trigger.
Greg
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And the dealer-serviced, high mileage 2014 GLK 250 for which I paid $1500
less than comparable examples.
On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 12:51 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Good example is the E320 CDI I sold Kaleb. Dealer maintained from 0 to
> 317k, I got it with 327k.
>
Good example is the E320 CDI I sold Kaleb. Dealer maintained from 0 to 317k, I
got it with 327k.
-D
> On Oct 1, 2020, at 12:44 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> With a little effort you can find an old Benz that does have service
> records which coupled with high mileage,
With a little effort you can find an old Benz that does have service
records which coupled with high mileage, could be a bargain.
On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 12:30 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> You really don't know this group do you?
> How many cars do you think
You really don't know this group do you?
How many cars do you think have been purchased by folks on this forum in
the past 10 years that had any significant history of service?
Most of what these folks appear to be looking for is a cheap car that
might be repairable.
RB
On 01/10/2020 11:17
Never buy a Mercedes that has no service history.
On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 10:22 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Bought some overpriced POSs sight unseen
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqJVIin8kN4
>
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Apparently it's not over for
Bought some overpriced POSs sight unseen
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On 10/1/20 8:43 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
This car might be a good deal, would be a nice road trip, hmmm...
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
Sep 30, 2020 3:23:24 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes :
Nobody bought the car
This car might be a good deal, would be a nice road trip, hmmm...
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
Sep 30, 2020 3:23:24 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes :
> Nobody bought the car (because I won't let anybody look at it).
> Therefore I should lower the price (and continue to not let anybody look at
> it?).
>
Well, I did
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> On Oct 1, 2020, at 4:24 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> On 2020-09-30 23:00, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>> Transmission Control Module. Electronic nanny under the dash below the
>> steering wheel. Not supposed to have tranny fluid in
On 2020-09-30 23:00, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
Transmission Control Module. Electronic nanny under the dash below the
steering wheel. Not supposed to have tranny fluid in it!
But have you checked to see if there is tranny fluid in it?
MBZ tranny wiring is great at wicking thin oil
On 2020-10-01 02:05, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
The inverter does not need to be in the car any more than the inverter
needs to be in the solar panel. Inverters are cheap.
So we're back to what I suggested originally, using the high voltage DC
(level 3) port?
Considering the track record, California will look like Cuba or Mexico with
folks driving old (pre 2015) cars that are grandfathered. Political
aristocracy excepted.
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Allan Streib via Mercedes
>
They love their Bolts. They are on their second set of Bolts I think. Pay
the 250/mo lease and turn it in for a new one in a few years. No
maintenance and no fuel. Hard to get much cheaper driving than that in a
new vehicle.
On Wed, Sep 30, 2020, 5:35 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
The inverter does not need to be in the car any more than the inverter
needs to be in the solar panel. Inverters are cheap.
I am sure there are considerable technical hurdles to overcome with the
program, but none of them look insurmountable. Except perhaps the
regulatory environment.
I think
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