On 01/06/2012 1:56 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:
On Jun 1, 2012, at 12:32 PM, rdeaf...@aol.com wrote:
Even my bodyshop friend said that I saved over 2 grand
on the work I did .Strokes does many wonders !!
I'll pass on the stroke, thanks.
Rick
Who sometimes IS a stroke...
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On Jun 1, 2012, at 12:32 PM, rdeaf...@aol.com wrote:
> Even my bodyshop friend said that I saved over 2 grand
> on the work I did .Strokes does many wonders !!
I'll pass on the stroke, thanks.
Rick
Who sometimes IS a stroke...
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it still looks new. Even my bodyshop friend said that I saved over 2 grand
on the work I did .Strokes does many wonders !!
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At $308. each, that only accounts for 3 shop hours at a decent body shop. 3
hrs to repair, to paint standard, a rusty fender,
Try POR.
Randy
On 31/05/2012 6:34 PM, Allan Streib wrote:
If I had the time and motivation, I'd try removing the fenders, using
the electrolytic method to get rid of the rust, then repair or fill as
needed.
Wire brushing and topical rust "removers" do not approach what I've seen
the electroly
Behalf Of Dan Penoff
> > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:50 PM
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> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 fenders - replace or restore?
> >
> > 123 fenders used to be cheap as wine. Check with the Q.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > On May 31,
It those establishments were autobody shops then being reputable will not
change anything. Body shops have no idea how to correctly repair rust. It needs
to be taken to a high end restoration shop. Any other alternative besides doing
it yourself in a skilled manner will surely lead to disappoint
If I had the time and motivation, I'd try removing the fenders, using
the electrolytic method to get rid of the rust, then repair or fill as
needed.
Wire brushing and topical rust "removers" do not approach what I've seen
the electrolytic conversion do. Instructions are somewhere on Jim
Cathey's
Since I intend for my '84 300D to be my last car and last me the rest of my
days, I replaced the RF & LR fenders in '09 after finding rust that I was
convinced would spread. I've had rust "repaired" in the past by reputable
establishments only for rust to reappear a couple years later. Even i
strasfogel
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:06 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] 123 fenders - replace or restore?
We are thinking of repainting her 1985 300CD. It has some rust in
both front fenders, esp. the passenger side. Would it be less costly
to 1) buy and install (relatively)
How bad is the rust?
Big rust would require lots of shop time to fix, and sourcing fresh
fender might be less costly.
Second the new fender. I have not priced a fender for a 123 lately,
but give Q a chance. Last I knew 124 fenders and 126 fenders were
just a little over $100 each.
123 no
On Thu, 31 May 2012 14:37:02 -0700 (PDT) Dimitri Seretakis
wrote:
> If rust can be repaired properly without removing fender then I'd opt
> for that. Fender removal means removal of that undercoating stuff which
> is a job in itself.
MB stopped using the seam sealer somewhere around '82. Our '82
On Thu, 31 May 2012 17:33:20 -0400 Dan Penoff wrote:
> They use some nasty seam sealer on the top edge. You have to use a heat
> gun or a torch to soften it up.
They stopped using that somewhere around 1982 on W123s. Our '82 240D/3.0
was built without the seam sealer and the fenders are easy to
If rust can be repaired properly without removing fender then I'd opt for that.
Fender removal means removal of that undercoating stuff which is a job in
itself. That might also predispose to future rust if not prepped and re-
undercoated properly.
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On May 31, 2012, at 4:17
They use some nasty seam sealer on the top edge. You have to use a heat gun or
a torch to soften it up.
Dan
On May 31, 2012, at 5:32 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:
> Are these glued on? I seem to recall some reference to difficulties changing
> MB fenders because they are bolted and glued on.
>
>
pping is a bear.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
>> On Behalf Of Dan Penoff
>> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:50 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 fenders - replac
Are these glued on? I seem to recall some reference to difficulties
changing MB fenders because they are bolted and glued on.
Randy
On 31/05/2012 3:17 PM, clay monroe wrote:
How bad is the rust?
Big rust would require lots of shop time to fix, and sourcing fresh fender
might be less costly.
2012 4:50 PM
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 fenders - replace or restore?
>
> 123 fenders used to be cheap as wine. Check with the Q.
>
> Dan
>
> On May 31, 2012, at 4:06 PM, andrew strasfogel
> wrote:
>
>> We are thinking of repaint
They are $308.00 but shipping is a bear.
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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Dan Penoff
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:50 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 fenders - replace or restore?
123
123 fenders used to be cheap as wine. Check with the Q.
Dan
On May 31, 2012, at 4:06 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:
> We are thinking of repainting her 1985 300CD. It has some rust in
> both front fenders, esp. the passenger side. Would it be less costly
> to 1) buy and install (relatively) rus
How bad is the rust?
Big rust would require lots of shop time to fix, and sourcing fresh fender
might be less costly. PnP fender should be very inexpensive. Still lots of
shop time to prep for paint and mounting. Probably same a for a new made
fender. Maaco paint job with fix would be least
No, no, no --- This is where you get to justify buying the mig welder,
the air compressor etc. DIY!
Randy
On 31/05/2012 3:06 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:
We are thinking of repainting her 1985 300CD. It has some rust in
both front fenders, esp. the passenger side. Would it be less costly
to
We are thinking of repainting her 1985 300CD. It has some rust in
both front fenders, esp. the passenger side. Would it be less costly
to 1) buy and install (relatively) rust-free used fenders; or 2) have
the body shop repair the existing ones?
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