Re: [MBZ] 124 central locking system fun

2020-03-12 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
That's good to know Dan, maybe I can fix this pump then. - Max Charleston SC On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 1:34 PM dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > Yeah, that’s one of the “smart” pumps. They can be opened and serviced. No > electronics to speak of if they like the W140 and W210 versions, but

Re: [MBZ] 124 central locking system fun

2020-03-12 Thread dan--- via Mercedes
Yeah, that’s one of the “smart” pumps. They can be opened and serviced. No electronics to speak of if they like the W140 and W210 versions, but some contacts that can be adjusted to control state change (pressure/vacuum) and high/low pressure/vacuum thresholds. Lots of info on BW on these as I

Re: [MBZ] 124 central locking system fun

2020-03-12 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Looks like this pump was common to all the 124 cars as well as others. https://www.programainc.com/item_detail.aspx?idproduct=107&idcategory=0&sf=124%20800%2021%2048 I've got the pump from Wilton's sedan, should be able to swap that in and have an answer. - Max Charleston SC On Thu,

Re: [MBZ] 124 central locking system fun

2020-03-12 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
There was an early Hella 126 pump that was quite stupid, but I've only ever seen one of those. As one might expect, the diaphragm on the snap switch failed. The later pumps are bidirectional motor/pumps, with electronics. Far fewer moving parts. -- Jim ___

Re: [MBZ] 124 central locking system fun

2020-03-12 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Don't know the answer to that, I'm speculating now. I've got some research to do about which pumps are shared and which are unique. - Max Charleston SC On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:09 AM dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > Are the pumps on the late W124s a separate unit like PSE pumps on la

Re: [MBZ] 124 central locking system fun

2020-03-12 Thread dan--- via Mercedes
Are the pumps on the late W124s a separate unit like PSE pumps on later models, or the “dumb” kind like the “football” found in W126 models? I ask because the “dumb” pumps don’t have any logic, just a pressure actuated snap switch that reverses rotation, changing from vacuum to pressure and vic

Re: [MBZ] 124 central locking system fun

2020-03-12 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> ...the CLS control circuit, which ... is integral to the pump, is the faulty > component. Yes, if the signal from the door lock is indeed correct, it is. At this point diving into the pump can't hurt. My first suspicion would be bad solder joints, but re-capping too while you're there could

[MBZ] 124 central locking system fun

2020-03-12 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Last night I had some time to diagnose the central locking system (CLS) on the '94 E320 wagon that Floyd helped me "rescue" a couple months ago. The LF door lock, when turned with the key to lock or unlock, would physically lock that door, but no activation of the CLS. The RF door, upon locking,