Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

Done. Bad time to have a dead block heater. On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 10:28 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Xackly! > > Mitch Haley via Mercedes >> January 3, 2018 at 9:20 AM >> >> I liked Curley's idea. >> Buy heater/cord assembly.

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

Xackly! Mitch Haley via Mercedes January 3, 2018 at 9:20 AM I liked Curley's idea. Buy heater/cord assembly. Plug cord into old heater, listen for sizzle. If no sizzle, take car and new heater to Indy. If sizzle, keep heater for spare. The money you saved on Indy

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

> On January 2, 2018 at 7:21 PM archer75--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > > What happened to his Indy? All he needs to do is get him to test it, and if > it's bad, put in a new one. If he can make an appointment to get it done, he > won't need to leave it and get a ride

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

> Gerry wrote: > Putting in a new one can be a messy and difficult job in icy > weather; even for a DIYer. One feature I really like about the OM61x engines is the effective and easy to get to block drain. Using a kinda long extension from the front starboard wheel well remove the block drain.

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

Indy is going to test the block heater this Friday, and replace the starter. On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 8:44 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > But then he wouldn't get his jollys (by being a troll) > > archer75--- via Mercedes >> January

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

But then he wouldn't get his jollys (by being a troll) archer75--- via Mercedes January 2, 2018 at 6:21 PM What happened to his Indy? All he needs to do is get him to test it, and if it's bad, put in a new one. If he can make an appointment to get it done, he

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

What happened to his Indy? All he needs to do is get him to test it, and if it's bad, put in a new one. If he can make an appointment to get it done, he won't need to leave it and get a ride home and then back the next day. Putting in a new one can be a messy and difficult job in icy weather;

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

Not in New England it isn't, either that or its so common they don't report it on the news which seems unlikely... -Curt On Tuesday, January 2, 2018, 3:26:10 PM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: And it is common to get mugged, held up or have your whole

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

> > Curt wrote: > > > > Being on the edge of the country seems to be an advantage, we > > don't have those super huge truckstops in New England. Maybe an advantage to non-drivers... > Mitch wrote: > > Being crowded causes that. It's hard for truckers to find > overnight parking in New England

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

And it is common to get mugged, held up or have your whole truck hijacked in NY/NJ/New England Mitch Haley via Mercedes January 2, 2018 at 1:23 PM Being crowded causes that. It's hard for truckers to find overnight parking in New England because there isn't

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

Yes, summer fuel has higher BTU/gal. That is why they put in the tank heaters and run summer fuel year round. ALL MB Diesels since 1986 have a fuel heater. (At least the USA models do) That is 32 years. But, it only works when the engine is warm. So in the trucking world, I'd guess the

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

> On January 2, 2018 at 2:19 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > > So the giant truck stops only serve long haul truckers? What do shorthaul > guys do? > Being on the edge of the country seems to be an advantage, we don't have > those super huge truckstops in

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

 So the giant truck stops only serve long haul truckers? What do shorthaul guys do? Being on the edge of the country seems to be an advantage, we don't have those super huge truckstops in New England. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 11:36 AM, Curley McLain via

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

You probably have the wrong fuel in them too. I'd guess true -10 or -20 winter dissel fuel in unobtanium in OK. You will have to mix your own. Put 50% #1 fuel or K1 in the tanks,mix well, circulate through the fuel filters and system. then try! Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

Trucks use summer fuel all year long. Road tractors have had tank heaters for a couple of decades now, so the only places that sell winter blend are the places that cater mainly to farmers and contractors with Dissel peekups. Truckstops have been selling summer fuel year round for about a

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

You've led a sheltered life, Herr S.! Used to be the oil jobbers started blending Diesel in October at about 25%, then in November went to 50%. In the iron head cars, MB specified that you could blend up to some percentage gasoline for winter starting and flowability. I forget , but I

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

NOPE!BZZT WRONG! Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes December 31, 2017 at 3:25 PM That is true I suppose ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

OK, the GFCI and cord both check out. Will try another hour on the block heater. On Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 7:23 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Howes makes a product to make gelled fuel flowable, but it is rarely > available. I'd trust it before any other bottled

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

Howes makes a product to make gelled fuel flowable, but it is rarely available. I'd trust it before any other bottled product, but I trust #1 fuel, or even gasoline more. Generally you see the Howes Diesel Treet, but not the other stuff. Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

10 above is a tropical heat wave. That is the temp where the Wisconsinites shed the winter coats. If you 've suffered through a week of -10 to -30, you will know what I mean! Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes January 1, 2018 at 4:21 PM Tomorrow will be the real

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

that was true up to about 20 years ago. But once the OTR trucks started running fuel heaters, and the truckstops started selling summer fuel all year long, the OPPOSITE is true. I used to ONLY buy fuel at large truckstops until I got a load of summer fuel at 20 below. After that, I tried

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

But, but, then he'd have to DO something! tyee165 via Mercedes January 1, 2018 at 9:57 PM But with only a cheap ohmmeter, you would know vey quickly if the cord was good and if the element was open or shorted. ___

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

Actually I guess it was my 90 early on. That was back in ca. 2006. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Jan 1, 2018 12:39 PM, "Curt Raymond" wrote: > Is yours the one that had the leaking fuel thermostat or was it Sam's > other 124? > > > Curt > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

Education is never cheap. Happy New Year Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Jan 1, 2018 12:29 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" wrote: > Angie mostly. If I'd been by myself I'd have bought it, had new rear > shocks put in and been on my way. Would have figured out the lack of

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

0% regular gasoline >>> >>> >>> Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A >>> Original message From: Curley McLain via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2017-12-31 6:26 PM (GMT-06:00) To: >>> Mercedes Discussion List &l

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

t; > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2017-12-31  6:26 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: > > Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Curley McLain < > > 126die...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts > > The supplement is not in a bottle

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

OK, so next step would be a test of the block heater cord to make sure that is not the problem, and then replace the component that failed. - Max Charleston SC On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Well I repeated the drill

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

for my old car says up to 30% regular gasoline > > > > > > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A > > Original message From: Curley McLain via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2017-12-31 6:26 PM (GMT-06:00) To: > > Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

ar gasoline > > > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A > Original message From: Curley McLain via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2017-12-31 6:26 PM (GMT-06:00) To: > Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Curley McLain < > 126die.

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

Multiple glows never failed me on OM 616 or 602 Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Dec 31, 2017 7:57 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I tried the one glow+ method again today. Fired up after 20 seconds. > Block heater plugged in but unclear whether it really

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

Yes for sure. I don't recall if my 90 124 300D had fuel tank heater. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Jan 1, 2018 12:32 PM, "Curt Raymond" wrote: > Cheaper than the alternative... > > Curt > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

> On January 1, 2018 at 10:57 PM tyee165 via Mercedes > wrote: > > > But with only a cheap ohmmeter, you would know vey quickly if the cord was > good and if the element was open or shorted. Or, as suggested earlier, put your hand on the engine before attempting to

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

rcedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts Tomorrow will be the real challenge temperatures below 10 with a wind chill.  If I can get it started then there's no need to test. On Mon, J

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

s wrote: > >> Stop screwing around and test the dam*ed thing Sent from my Galaxy Tab® > A > >> Original message From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2017-12-31 6:57 PM (GMT-06:00) To: > Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.c

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

: Andrew Strasfogel >> <astrasfo...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts I >> tried the one glow+ method again today. Fired up after 20 seconds. >> Block heater plugged in but unclear whether it really works or not. >> On Sun, Dec 31

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

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Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

017-12-31 6:57 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts I tried the one glow+ method again today. Fired up after 20 seconds. Block heater plugged in but unclear

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

Is yours the one that had the leaking fuel thermostat or was it Sam's other 124? Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 12:34 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: Yes for sure. I don't recall if my 90 124 300D had fuel tank heater. Dwight Giles Jr.

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

Cheaper than the alternative... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 12:31 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: Education is never cheap. Happy New Year Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Jan 1, 2018 12:29 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes"

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

I think all 60x engines have that feature, my VWs do too. It's nice when the fuel is a little thick, gets things moving so you can get somewhere to do something about it. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 10:50 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

Angie mostly. If I'd been by myself I'd have bought it, had new rear shocks put in and been on my way. Would have figured out the lack of locks during the trip. She was unimpressed so instead I spent the next 3 years driving a rolling heap. Good place to learn about car repairs though, it also

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

Fuel tank heaters: Both my '87 124 wagon and my '95 124 sedan have fuel heaters, which use engine coolant to pre-heat the fuel from the tank supply before it goes into the injection pump. I've thought in the past the idea of this pre-heater was to provide fuel at a predetermined temperature for

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

Yes, then I ended up with it for a brief moment. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 1, 2018, at 9:29 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > >> On January 1, 2018 at 12:43 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >> I've never put gasoline

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

> On December 31, 2017 at 7:25 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Trucks have APUs. My guess is either they plug in the the truck and > that also powers the fuel heater(s) as well as the block heater; or the > heaters run off battery power and the APU

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

> On January 1, 2018 at 12:43 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > > I've never put gasoline in intentionally to dilute #2. Once, > unintentionally, and that was in the Quantum. I much prefer to mix #1 > if I can't find Winter Diesel blend to buy. Was that

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

Its currently 2 outside, maybe I should go try them now. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 1, 2018, at 9:21 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > Emulsifiers like Diesel 9-1-1 can help, temporarily, by mixing the water in > with the fuel and helping it get through the

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

Emulsifiers like Diesel 9-1-1 can help, temporarily, by mixing the water in with the fuel and helping it get through the filters so that it can slowly kill the common rail engines instead of stalling them with ice. > On December 31, 2017 at 7:26 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes >

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

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Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

I've never put gasoline in intentionally to dilute #2. Once, unintentionally, and that was in the Quantum. I much prefer to mix #1 if I can't find Winter Diesel blend to buy. clay monroe via Mercedes December 31, 2017 at 11:37 PM And that has been a great

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

nz.com> Cc: Curley McLain > <126die...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts > The supplement is not in a bottle, it is #1 fuel, or K1 at at least 50%. > >> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> December 31, 2017 at 5:2

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

Who's Andy? On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > On December 31, 2017 at 4:11 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > Doubt it unless you're getting winter fuel all year, otherwise truckers > wouldn't

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

> On December 31, 2017 at 4:11 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Doubt it unless you're getting winter fuel all year, otherwise truckers > wouldn't be able to go north... I've seen claims that you need to buy diesel from truck stops if you want to take a

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

Ok, thanks! I couldn't remember the number. tyee165 via Mercedes December 31, 2017 at 7:24 PM The manual for my old car says up to 30% regular gasoline ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

Andy doesn't want it right. He just likes to complain here and ignore the advice given. tyee165 via Mercedes December 31, 2017 at 7:00 PM Stop screwing around and test the dam*ed thing ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

It is so easy to check if the block heater works. Plug it in overnight. In the morning lift the nood and stick you bare hand on the head or block. If it is warmer than ambient, ut is working. If you feel metal the same temp as the fender, replace the cord and try again. Andrew

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

l <astrasfo...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts I tried the one glow+ method again today.  Fired up after 20 seconds. Block heater plugged in but unclear whether it really works or not. On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 7:26 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercede

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

Trucks have APUs. My guess is either they plug in the the truck and that also powers the fuel heater(s) as well as the block heater; or the heaters run off battery power and the APU starts up every so often to recharge the batteries. Dunno, I've never been that close to them. The other

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

t; 126die...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts > The supplement is not in a bottle, it is #1 fuel, or K1 at at least 50%. > > > Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > December 31, 2017 at 5:24 PM > >

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

Lain <126die...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts The supplement is not in a bottle, it is #1 fuel, or K1 at at least 50%. > Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> > December 31, 2017 at 5:24 PM > Well we hardly ever get thi

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

I tried the one glow+ method again today. Fired up after 20 seconds. Block heater plugged in but unclear whether it really works or not. On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 7:26 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The supplement is not in a bottle, it is #1 fuel, or K1 at at

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

The supplement is not in a bottle, it is #1 fuel, or K1 at at least 50%. Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes December 31, 2017 at 5:24 PM Well we hardly ever get this cold, but I suppose I could use a supplement. ___

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

Not way less, 10% or so. I can tell when they switch in the fall. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 6:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Winter blend gets way less mpg doesnt it?  I would think that would be a big problem for

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

Winter blend gets way less mpg doesnt it?  I would think that would be a big problem for large trucking companies.  I have never seen or heard of any different diesel being used in the winter here. On 12/31/2017 5:05 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: How does that work when they shut

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

Well we hardly ever get this cold, but I suppose I could use a supplement. On 12/31/2017 4:30 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: That's my point!   Works great when it is 114 outside not well at all at 13ºF!   You need to mix your own fuel before you condemn car or batteries. Kaleb

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

How does that work when they shut down? Have to run the heater awhile before it will start?Back when I first got out of high school I did some work on the railroad, they were running bunker fuel and it was a big deal to get one started if it got shut down in winter... Curt Sent from Yahoo

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

That's my point! Works great when it is 114 outside not well at all at 13ºF! You need to mix your own fuel before you condemn car or batteries. Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes December 31, 2017 at 2:44 PM I am pretty sure we have the same fuel all year

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

That is true I suppose Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 31, 2017, at 3:11 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > Doubt it unless you're getting winter fuel all year, otherwise truckers > wouldn't be able to go north... > > Curt > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Sun, Dec

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

Doubt it unless you're getting winter fuel all year, otherwise truckers wouldn't be able to go north... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 3:45 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: I am pretty sure we have the same fuel all year long

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

I am pretty sure we have the same fuel all year long here. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 31, 2017, at 1:22 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > ok, but WHAT is in the fuel tank? I'm still betting on summer fuel for 100 > to 120ºF. > > > >> Kaleb C. Striplin

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

Exactly my problem in the 83 300TD. I guess a working block heater would help. On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 11:36 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > So it is currently 13 outside and i decided I wanted to see if a few cars > would start. I did not mess with

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

ok, but WHAT is in the fuel tank? I'm still betting on summer fuel for 100 to 120ºF. Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes December 31, 2017 at 12:35 PM I forgot to mention all of the cars have Delvac 1300 15w40 Dino in them.

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

Well it’s now up to 17, I went out and checked the charger on the sdl and it said fully charger. I glowed it until the relay clicked off, cycled the key again then started cranking. A couple starting hitting, then more, and it fired to life with a huge cloud of smoke. Sent from my iPhone >

Re: [MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

I forgot to mention all of the cars have Delvac 1300 15w40 Dino in them. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 31, 2017, at 12:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > Exactly my problem in the 83 300TD. I guess a working block heater would > help. > >> On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at

[MBZ] 13 degree failed diesel starts

So it is currently 13 outside and i decided I wanted to see if a few cars would start.  I did not mess with starting the 606 vehicles as I know they will start.  So first up was the 83 240D I have been working on that I picked up non running.  It has had all new filters, oil change, valves