Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-16 Thread Donald Snook
Andrew wrote: I think patina is overrated. One man's patina is another's stinky old car smell. I agree - to a point. There are certain cars, especially those that are exceptionally old, that I would prefer were original including all of the patina rather than restored or new. I am thinking

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-16 Thread andrew strasfogel
Some of those restored cars are not sloppy enouigh to match the factory originality. The Speed TV reports proudly point out the correct overspray and hastily applied undercoating in a faithful restoration. Paint finishes are typically better than new. On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Donald

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-16 Thread Mitch Haley
Donald Snook wrote: By the way, did anyone see the Scottsdale Auction? They had a few Oldsmobile 442's that were just amazing. A friend of mine owned one from new, It was originally 425/4sp IIRC. I think he kept the 425, heavily modified, but switched to a THM400 when he started drag

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-16 Thread Donald Snook
Andrew wrote: Some of those restored cars are not sloppy enouigh to match the factory originality. The Speed TV reports proudly point out the correct overspray and hastily applied undercoating in a faithful restoration. Paint finishes are typically better than new. Yea, I know what you are

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-16 Thread Donald Snook
Mitch wrote: A friend of mine owned one from new, It was originally 425/4sp IIRC. I think he kept the 425, heavily modified, but switched to a THM400 when he started drag racing. Then I forget what happened to the drivetrain, he left the body outside until it got rusty, then crushed it. If he'd

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-16 Thread Mitch Haley
Donald Snook wrote: I don't think the 442 ever had a 425. They were either 400 or the bad boy 455. A little Wiki straightened me out. I think I was right about it being 1968, which would have been a 400 with a 4.25 stroke. I know it was not a 455. I want to say one of his friends

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-16 Thread andrew strasfogel
I like to look at the winning bidders and wonder HTF they came up with $70K for a car that retailed for $4200 40 years ago that was a POS within 3 months of leaving the dealer's lot. On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Donald Snook wrote: I don't think the

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-15 Thread andrew strasfogel
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ? You know that old saying Larry, there are now 3 times more Bugatti's out there than ever left the factory. lol. Prices got so crazy, if you had an old chassis, engine, or gearbox, you had the makings of a restored car. lol. Problem

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-13 Thread LarryT
...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 5:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ? I knew a fellow too, who had a 600 for daily transport. A really amazing car. Hmmm, I wonder when the hydraulic fail, if all the windows fall

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-13 Thread LarryT
-- From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 6:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ? You know that old saying Larry, there are now 3 times more Bugatti's out there than ever left the factory. lol

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-13 Thread LWB250
: Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 11:53 AM Ed asked I'd even love a SE 6.3.  Did they come in both long and short wheelbase models? Yup, 300SE or 300SEL.   Awesome cars fer sure - LarryT

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-13 Thread E M
Dan --- On Sat, 2/13/10, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 11:53 AM Ed asked I'd even love a SE 6.3. Did

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-12 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Of Rich Thomas Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 5:57 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ? Yes they are very much around, there are some folks who live in a shack down a little dirt road across the road from me who speak only Gullah, no English. Most

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-12 Thread LarryT
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 4:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ? Money can buy a lot of things, class is not one of them. --R E M wrote: I was a member of the Benz club for a few years here

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-12 Thread E M
...@constructivity.net Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 4:29 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ? Money can buy a lot of things, class is not one of them. --R E M wrote: I was a member of the Benz club for a few years

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-12 Thread LarryT
: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ? I am fortunate to live a short bike ride over to Kiawah Island, which is like a zoo for older rich white people. Last fall sometime they had a car display at one of the parks on a gorgeous Saturday morning, so I pedaled over to look at the cars. There were

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-12 Thread Rich Thomas
or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 5:07 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ? I am

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-12 Thread E M
...@constructivity.net Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 5:07 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ? I am fortunate to live a short bike ride over to Kiawah Island, which is like a zoo for older rich white people. Last fall sometime

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-11 Thread Donald Snook
Ed wrote: Anyone else a fan of the old 600 SWB ? I've been watching lots of YouTube vids on them. Has to rate as one of my top 5 all time fave Mercedes. Those are some of the coolest cars in the world. I like them in all the various iterations - the Pullman, the LWB, the laundalet.

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-11 Thread Donald Snook
Ed wrote: Anyone else a fan of the old 600 SWB ? I've been watching lots of YouTube vids on them. Has to rate as one of my top 5 all time fave Mercedes. Ed, Have you seen this guy's website? http://www.mbgrand600.com/index.html I could spend a couple of hours looking through everything he

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-11 Thread E M
Thanks for the link Donald, some really amazing stuff there!! Would be fun to take an afternoon and wander around this guys shop! Ed 300E On 11 February 2010 09:27, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote: Ed wrote: Anyone else a fan of the old 600 SWB ? I've been watching lots of YouTube vids

[MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-11 Thread glenn brown
When I was working/living in NY state and wasting my money on The Star magazine, there was an article on the M100 (I hope I remembered the name right) club which meets once a year in southern NY state. There are two main players who operate things in this club and the other fellow lives

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-11 Thread E M
I was a member of the Benz club for a few years here, and helped with their regional mag. I found a lot more of that attitude than with other car groups. Often members would have several different makes of cars, Benz, Rollers, Ferrari. I once asked or tried to strike up a conversation about

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-11 Thread Rich Thomas
Money can buy a lot of things, class is not one of them. --R E M wrote: I was a member of the Benz club for a few years here, and helped with their regional mag. I found a lot more of that attitude than with other car groups. Often members would have several different makes of cars, Benz,

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-11 Thread E M
I agree, 100% Ed 300E On 11 February 2010 16:29, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Money can buy a lot of things, class is not one of them. --R E M wrote: I was a member of the Benz club for a few years here, and helped with their regional mag. I found a lot

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-11 Thread Frederick W Moir
Rich, Alles. Money can buy a lot of things, grace is not one of them. I have neither, therefore I know. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 2/11/2010 4:29 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Money can buy a lot of things, class is not one of them. --R ___

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-11 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of E M Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 4:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ? I was a member of the Benz club

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-11 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ? Rich, Alles. Money can buy a lot of things, grace is not one of them. I have neither, therefore I know. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 2/11/2010 4:29 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Money can buy a lot of things, class

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-11 Thread Rich Thomas
I am fortunate to live a short bike ride over to Kiawah Island, which is like a zoo for older rich white people. Last fall sometime they had a car display at one of the parks on a gorgeous Saturday morning, so I pedaled over to look at the cars. There were some nice rides there, and some

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-11 Thread LWB250
with a couple of them and knowing what I know now, would never do it again. 'nuf said. Dan --- On Thu, 2/11/10, glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: From: glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com Subject: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ? To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thursday, February 11

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-11 Thread Gary Hurst
years ago, i stopped at the piggly wiggly on kiawah island and engaged the backroom workers in dialogue. some barely spoke english, so i assured them in my best fake bob marley accent that I was conversant in the gullah so they could speak their native tongue to me. i hadn't a clue what those

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-11 Thread Frederick W Moir
Dwight, et al. No, I'm not. I have met some truly gracious people and cannot hope to be so, though I strive to achieve that state. Aren't I the most trying guy you know? Fred Moir Lynn MA Home of Der Lumpen. On 2/11/2010 5:00 PM, Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote: Fred, You are being too modest.

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-11 Thread Rich Thomas
Yes they are very much around, there are some folks who live in a shack down a little dirt road across the road from me who speak only Gullah, no English. Most of the Gullah folk speak passable English, especially the younger kids, and can flip back and forth (the kids at the grocery stores

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-11 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I really dislike snooty people. I hate to say it but a lot of people that I've met in the MB community are that way. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 11, 2010, at 3:00 PM, glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: When I was working/living in NY state and wasting my money on The Star magazine,

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-11 Thread Mountain Man
Donald wrote: This guy is a genius. I thought Karl used to be in PA? Or, is that another 600 restorer guy in PA? Or, did Karl move to Wausau? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-11 Thread Mountain Man
I want the 240D station wagon. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-11 Thread Mountain Man
Fred wrote: I have neither, therefore I know. You don't think you have grace or class? I hate to argue with you - but I would say differently - you are here with me and others at the okie mercedes list - that takes class and grace. You got them both. Oh, you meant money... oh, well... I don't

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-11 Thread Mountain Man
--R wrote: Another neighbor across the road, who has a truck farm Ya know... I always thought they made trucks at a factory of some sort. But now you say they farm trucks? Interesting. It might be interesting to see a field full of trucks at the truck farm. Thanks. mao

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-11 Thread OK Don
They farm Caddy's in Texas -- http://www.texastwisted.com/attr/cadillacranch/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_Ranch They call it a ranch, but since they plant them, I call it a farm. On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Ya know... I always thought

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-11 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: But now you say they farm trucks? Interesting.  It might be interesting to see a field full of trucks at the truck farm. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cadillac_Ranch.jpg They ranch Cadillacs, so it only makes sense

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-11 Thread E M
When you grow them, they become a sustainable product. If you keep harvesting them from virgin Mac forest, another generation or two, and that will be the last of them we see. ;-) Ed 300E On 11 February 2010 21:22, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: --R wrote: Another neighbor across

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-11 Thread E M
Been a good growing season. Hard to believe, just a few short months ago, they were just little Smart seedlings. lol Ed 300E On 11 February 2010 21:34, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: They farm Caddy's in Texas -- http://www.texastwisted.com/attr/cadillacranch/

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-11 Thread andrew strasfogel
Speaking of Smart cars, I took hers in to the local dealer for its annual servicing. Had an oil change, did a computer test for fuel consumption, checked out a noise in the suspension, and fixed a minor mechanical issue. The bill came to $74.65 [sic]. I almost tipped the service cashier 15

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-11 Thread E M
That's pretty expensive for half a litre of oil. hee hee. ;-) Ed 300E On 11 February 2010 22:05, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking of Smart cars, I took hers in to the local dealer for its annual servicing. Had an oil change, did a computer test for fuel consumption,

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-11 Thread Rich Thomas
See that right there is an illustration of a problem with folks who have never had the opportunity to raise a truck patch, and are pretty damn ignernt of the ways things is. --R Mountain Man wrote: --R wrote: Another neighbor across the road, who has a truck farm Ya know... I

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-11 Thread Rich Thomas
I have driven by the Cadillac Ranch a couple of times, it is the only thing out there for miles. --R Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: But now you say they farm trucks? Interesting. It might be interesting to see a field

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea, I have been there. Hard to get a pic like that without a ton of people walking around Rich Thomas wrote: I have driven by the Cadillac Ranch a couple of times, it is the only thing out there for miles. --R Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Mountain Man

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-11 Thread Rich Thomas
Last time I drove by there was 2? years ago just before Christmas, it was like 15degF with a howling wind, nobody was there and one of them was me. That part of Texas is downright inhospitable a good part of the year. --R Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: yea, I have been there. Hard to get a pic

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-11 Thread Frederick W Moir
Mao, et alles. I once passed within elbow distance of Grace Kelly on a shuttle flight from Boston Logan to La Guardia, does that count? No, I was so crass as to ask for an autograph. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. On 2/11/2010 9:17 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Fred wrote: I have neither,

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-11 Thread Dieselhead
I only got to look at the castle from the outside. Was in a shyster's office this week. He had a first day stamp commemorating the royal wedding. However, I did spend a weekend talking with King Onward. Mao, et alles. I once passed within elbow distance of Grace Kelly on a shuttle flight

Re: [MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-11 Thread Fmiser
Mountain Man wrote: --R wrote: Another neighbor across the road, who has a truck farm Ya know... I always thought they made trucks at a factory of some sort. But now you say they farm trucks? Interesting. It might be interesting to see a field full of trucks at the truck farm. The

[MBZ] Any other fans of the 600 SWB ?

2010-02-10 Thread E M
Anyone else a fan of the old 600 SWB ? I've been watching lots of YouTube vids on them. Has to rate as one of my top 5 all time fave Mercedes. The Maybach might be a great car, but by comparison, it almost seems a parts bin car, which it kinda is. Ed 300E