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2017-05-16 Thread clay via Mercedes
The whole fiasco will fail in a most spectacular manner. For some reason, nobody was capable of driving today, so it gave shades of the coming Zombie disaster. Cars just inching along for miles on end. Mayhap the electric things were not running most of the time, unlike the real fuel cars.

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2017-05-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
enz.com> Cc: Mitch Haley <mi...@mitchellhaley.com> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad news for Dan > On May 15, 2017 at 12:39 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > +1  which is why i believe they should hav

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2017-05-16 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> > batteries could soon be the primary motive source, and gas engines used > only emergencies or on long trips where recharging was not possible or > practical. I.e. the Chevy Volt. A co-worker has one, loves it. It makes him run the gas engine more than he'd like, just to keep the gas in it

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2017-05-16 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
ll running the AC at 100F ambient while the cabin > > stays 72F. > > > > -Curt > > > > > > From: Ed Booher via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > Cc: Ed Booh

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2017-05-16 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Wouldn't these be better? http://newatlas.com/go/4272/ Gerry > A more realistic plan would be to put us all on bicycles. > - > Max > Charleston SC > > On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 9:23 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Probably solar and wind > >

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2017-05-15 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On May 15, 2017 at 12:39 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > > +1 which is why i believe they should have a noisemaker. Like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkT8rZj8YH0 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

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2017-05-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
t; makes kind of a pleasant odor very unlike a gas car or older diesel. > > > -Curt > > > > > > From: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> > > > To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > &

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2017-05-15 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
ie...@gmail.com> > > To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 12:35 PM > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad news for Dan > > > > for most folks, the "second car" is n

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2017-05-15 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Very nice! RB On 15/05/2017 1:28 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Balboa 20 (twenty feet long) sail boat, made in about 1973. Has a swing keel so it can be easily put onto a boat trailer. Sailing on Charleston harbor is such a joy, no better way to spend a summer day in my opinion.

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2017-05-15 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Balboa 20 (twenty feet long) sail boat, made in about 1973. Has a swing keel so it can be easily put onto a boat trailer. Sailing on Charleston harbor is such a joy, no better way to spend a summer day in my opinion. - Max Charleston SC On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Randy

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2017-05-15 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
What sort of boat do you tow? RB On 15/05/2017 11:47 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Pretty much yes, in my Wagon. Carries me to/from work, carries the family on vacation, tows the boat. Plenty of room to load up SWMBO, SWMBette, 2x cats, a couple suitcases, and tow the boat behind

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2017-05-15 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 1:43 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad news for Dan > > To me, an EV would make the most sense if you own a dedicated bank of sola

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2017-05-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
t;curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad news for Dan To me, an EV would make the most sense if you own a dedicated bank of solar panels you could use t

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2017-05-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
l.com> > To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 12:35 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad news for Dan > > for most folks, the "second car" is not a $$$,$$$ Lektrick, but it

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2017-05-15 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Curt wrote: > What I don't understand about the whole thing is that > the "electric cars aren't good" crowd seems to always rely on > the "it doesn't work in every situation" argument which is > clearly bogus thinking. An MB sedan is a lovely car but I can't > put half a cord of firewood in it

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2017-05-15 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Discussion List > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 12:35 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad news for Dan > > for most folks, the "second car" is not a $$$,$$$ Lektrick, but it is the old > car that was replaced when a new car was acquired. few peo

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2017-05-15 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Pretty much yes, in my Wagon. Carries me to/from work, carries the family on vacation, tows the boat. Plenty of room to load up SWMBO, SWMBette, 2x cats, a couple suitcases, and tow the boat behind during evacuation. Distance is not the issue, it is time. Just getting from Chucktown to

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2017-05-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
es@okiebenz.com> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad news for Dan for most folks, the "second car" is not a $$$,$$$ Lektrick, but it is the old car that was replaced when a new car was acquired.  few people can afford $400/500/mo car payments x 2.  Lek

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2017-05-15 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
o: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Ed Booher <edboo...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad news for Dan Yeah, see, I do think that there will be a tipping point and moving forward *all* new cars will be electrically driven. The el

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2017-05-15 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
but you would be GREEEN! (and dead.) We all know Lektricks don't make no smog. Meade Dillon via Mercedes May 15, 2017 at 10:39 AM Well, when it doesn't work in a life or death situation, that's kinda big with me. Why would I trade a tool that meets a major

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2017-05-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
t;curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad news for Dan Well, when it doesn't work in a life or death situation, that's kinda big with me.  Why would I trade a tool that meets a major requirement of mine for a tool

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2017-05-15 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
for most folks, the "second car" is not a $$$,$$$ Lektrick, but it is the old car that was replaced when a new car was acquired. few people can afford $400/500/mo car payments x 2. Lektrick does not make economic sense unless you do over 90% of driving within a 20 mile radius, as you say.

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2017-05-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
running the AC at 100F ambient while the >>> cabin >>> stays 72F. >>> >>> -Curt >>> >>> >>>From: Ed Booher via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com&g

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2017-05-15 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
g the AC at 100F ambient while the cabin stays 72F. -Curt From: Ed Booher via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Ed Booher <edboo...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad n

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2017-05-15 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Well, when it doesn't work in a life or death situation, that's kinda big with me. Why would I trade a tool that meets a major requirement of mine for a tool that doesn't meet that requirement? I'd be a fool. - Max Charleston SC On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Curt Raymond

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2017-05-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
  From: Ed Booher via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>  To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Ed Booher <edboo...@gmail.com>  Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:42 AM  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad news for Dan Yeah, see, I do think that there will be a tipping point and

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2017-05-15 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
> > From: Ed Booher via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: Ed Booher <edboo...@gmail.com> > Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:42 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad news for Dan > > Yeah, see, I do t

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2017-05-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
ooher <edboo...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad news for Dan Yeah, see, I do think that there will be a tipping point and moving forward *all* new cars will be electrically driven. The electric motors are just too good at low end torque and such

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2017-05-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad news for Dan won't happen.  Lots of things use petroleum besides cars.  Trucks, trains, barges etc.  in 10 years they might account for 50% But a 'lektrickmobile is good only for short trips.  No way the traveling salesman who puts on 50-100k a year can exist

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2017-05-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
everywhere... -Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin <ka...@striplin.net> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bad news for Dan Yea right. That is

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2017-05-15 Thread Ed Booher via Mercedes
Yeah, see, I do think that there will be a tipping point and moving forward *all* new cars will be electrically driven. The electric motors are just too good at low end torque and such. However, I think the full on electrics like Tesla will still be the rare bird and the fully electric, yet gas

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2017-05-15 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
That is exactly the dream of the (J) side of the goobermnt. Meade Dillon via Mercedes May 15, 2017 at 8:24 AM A more realistic plan would be to put us all on bicycles. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

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2017-05-15 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
won't happen. Lots of things use petroleum besides cars. Trucks, trains, barges etc. in 10 years they might account for 50% But a 'lektrickmobile is good only for short trips. No way the traveling salesman who puts on 50-100k a year can exist in a Lektrick cah. This is liberal wishful

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2017-05-15 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
A more realistic plan would be to put us all on bicycles. - Max Charleston SC On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 9:23 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Probably solar and wind > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 15, 2017, at 4:34 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes

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2017-05-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Probably solar and wind Sent from my iPhone > On May 15, 2017, at 4:34 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Even if we started now, we wouldn't be able to build all the electric > generating plants to charge all those batteries! > > What type of power plants does

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2017-05-15 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Yea right. That is stupid and wrong on so many levels. Are we going to get rid of airplanes also? How are we going to make all the products that are made from oil? Are all tractors and farm equipment going to be electric as well? Sent from my iPhone > On May 15, 2017, at 1:26 AM, archer75---

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2017-05-15 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
Your classic fool living in liberal lala land Sent from my iPhone > On May 15, 2017, at 2:26 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > All vehicles will be electric by 2025, says expert > > No more petrol or diesel cars, buses, or trucks will be sold anywhere in

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2017-05-15 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Even if we started now, we wouldn't be able to build all the electric generating plants to charge all those batteries! What type of power plants does he propose, nuclear or coal? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On May 15, 2017 2:26:52 AM EDT, archer75--- via Mercedes

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2017-05-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I think the professor needs to get out of his office more, 2025 is only 8 years off... Maybe I should look into betting against him although I can't see my getting good odds. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 2:49 AM, archer75--- via

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2017-05-15 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
All vehicles will be electric by 2025, says expert No more petrol or diesel cars, buses, or trucks will be sold anywhere in the world within eight years. The entire market for land transport will switch to electrification, leading to a collapse of oil prices and the demise of the petroleum