Re: [MBZ] BlueTecs

2023-12-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Is that when the warranty expires? On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 11:20 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > It’s the million mile engine > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > > > On Dec 17, 2023, at 10:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >

Re: [MBZ] BlueTecs

2023-12-17 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
It’s the million mile engine --FT Sent from iFōn > On Dec 17, 2023, at 10:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > My '85 300SD has the 617 engine, right? I don't believe there is any > theoretical limit to its longevity. > >> On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 7:57 PM Dwight Giles via

Re: [MBZ] BlueTecs

2023-12-17 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
My '85 300SD has the 617 engine, right? I don't believe there is any theoretical limit to its longevity. On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 7:57 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > yes great list of diesel engines. I have had 616, 617, & 602. > > On Sun, Dec 17, 2023, 7:22 PM

Re: [MBZ] BlueTecs

2023-12-17 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
yes great list of diesel engines. I have had 616, 617, & 602. On Sun, Dec 17, 2023, 7:22 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Seems like OM615, 616, 617, 601, 602, 603 and 606 are the way to go….. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Dec 17, 2023, at 9:23 AM, Kaleb

Re: [MBZ] BlueTecs

2023-12-17 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Seems like OM615, 616, 617, 601, 602, 603 and 606 are the way to go….. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 17, 2023, at 9:23 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > The OM251 has the timing chain at the rear. I have heard they have a problem > stretching and breaking. > > > Sent from my

Re: [MBZ] BlueTecs

2023-12-17 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
The OM251 has the timing chain at the rear. I have heard they have a problem stretching and breaking. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 16, 2023, at 11:25 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > Oil cooler issues have never arisen in either my E250 or GLK 250. This is > only a problem

Re: [MBZ] BlueTecs

2023-12-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Oil cooler issues have never arisen in either my E250 or GLK 250. This is only a problem in the 6 cylinder models, e.g. ML 350 Bluetec.. On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 10:17 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I agree, an older mechanical diesel is still desirable but the

Re: [MBZ] BlueTecs

2023-12-16 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I agree, an older mechanical diesel is still desirable but the newer ones with DEF and emissions crap and computers required to run them I would avoid. They are really only suitable for drivers who need to make frequent long highway trips. If you're driving infrequently and/or on mostly short

Re: [MBZ] BlueTecs

2023-12-16 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
That and the highly unlikely possibility that diesel fuel cost will ever remotely be equal to or lower than gasoline? I mean, if you’re driving a GTI with a 5-speed stick, OK, I get it, but for the average driver and vehicle, economy is no longer a significant issue. -D > On Dec 16, 2023, at

Re: [MBZ] BlueTecs

2023-12-16 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
The gassers of those years eat up timing chains and balance shafts. I guess pick your poison. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 16, 2023, at 4:37 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > Or simply stick with a gasser. > > I mean really is there the old school advantages to having a diesel any

Re: [MBZ] BlueTecs

2023-12-16 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Or simply stick with a gasser. I mean really is there the old school advantages to having a diesel any more, especially it you look at things like oil cooler seals and DEF crapola? AZBob Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 16, 2023, at 2:33 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Forgot

Re: [MBZ] BlueTecs

2023-12-16 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Forgot to mention, stick to pre 2009 e class or pre 2008 ML/GL to avoid DEF. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 16, 2023, at 1:30 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > There is a metric crap load of BlueTecs for sale out here right now, many of > them reasonably priced. > Steer clear? > I

Re: [MBZ] BlueTecs

2023-12-16 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
They are fine, but be prepared to deal with oil cooler seals or pay someone, I’m in the middle of my 2nd one as well speak. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 16, 2023, at 1:30 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > There is a metric crap load of BlueTecs for sale out here right now, many of

Re: [MBZ] BlueTecs

2023-12-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Facelift done by Beverly Hills-certified German engineers. On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 3:57 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Facelift model? > > Be careful about trailer hitches on 2006 and later MBs. They will > typically require some serious modifications to add one

Re: [MBZ] BlueTecs

2023-12-16 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Facelift model? Be careful about trailer hitches on 2006 and later MBs. They will typically require some serious modifications to add one if it can even be done. In other words, if you want a car with a trailer hitch, unless it’s a W163 (98-05 MLs), make sure it’s already got one. -D > On

Re: [MBZ] BlueTecs

2023-12-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Get a 2014-15 if you can. That was a mid-model makeover. Very nicely improved. On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 2:30 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > There is a metric crap load of BlueTecs for sale out here right now, many > of them reasonably priced. > Steer clear? > I

[MBZ] BlueTecs

2023-12-16 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
There is a metric crap load of BlueTecs for sale out here right now, many of them reasonably priced. Steer clear? I watched a video from Hoovie’s friend, The Wizard. He maintains, that among Mercedes SUVs, your best choice it’s a 2012 ML 350. The search for a replacement for my pick up is