[MBZ] Flying A class

2023-08-24 Thread Clay via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] Flying today

2020-12-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Everybody is NOT all masked up. On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 8:41 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > With all the draconian mandates and the plague of rats/tattles, there > should be absolutely no infections because everybody is masked up. Only > place you could be infected

Re: [MBZ] Flying today

2020-12-07 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes
With all the draconian mandates and the plague of rats/tattles, there should be absolutely no infections because everybody is masked up. Only place you could be infected would be your own home, except if the mandates demands you mask while in your own property boundaries as well. Anchorage may

Re: [MBZ] Flying today

2020-12-07 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 7 Dec 2020 15:32:21 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > > On Monday, December 7, 2020, 10:23:33 AM EST, Kaleb Striplin via > > Mercedes wrote: > > Masks are a joke. > > I'm starting to doubt that masks really prevent spread, it seems more > likely that summertime, or ma

Re: [MBZ] Flying today

2020-12-07 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
All the new trucks have blinding LEDs, a lot of the new foreign cars and SUVs too -- the lights are up high and quite blinding, add in the aux lights that are always on and it is dangerously blinding. Then you have the bubbas who have put them on their squatted 4x4s to be cool (no mufflers), an

Re: [MBZ] Flying today

2020-12-07 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Oh, believe me, I know. I have done many of them. It blowsright outta ya bung hole. Bob R Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 7, 2020, at 10:44 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 2020-12-07 09:59, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >> Yep, or SHMBO can’t put the phone down do you ca

Re: [MBZ] Flying today

2020-12-07 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On 2020-12-07 09:59, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Yep, or SHMBO can’t put the phone down do you can see at night. Speaking of night driving I am amazed at the number of people now days that drive with their brights on all the time and won’t dim them. I am also amazed at even on low beams m

Re: [MBZ] Flying today

2020-12-07 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Yep. Lots and lots of shitting. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 7, 2020, at 10:45 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > That will be a real delight compared to what you’re in for on Wednesday. > Let’s just say that you’re going to be very, very good friends with the > porcelain throne. >

Re: [MBZ] Flying today

2020-12-07 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That will be a real delight compared to what you’re in for on Wednesday. Let’s just say that you’re going to be very, very good friends with the porcelain throne. -D > On Dec 7, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > I have my first COVID test today in preparation for a col

Re: [MBZ] Flying today

2020-12-07 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
I have my first COVID test today in preparation for a colonoscopy Thursday. The gal just barely inserted that swab into my nostrils and swished it around. No brain touching. Bob R Sent from my iPad > On Dec 7, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yep, or SHMBO can’t

Re: [MBZ] Flying today

2020-12-07 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Yep, or SHMBO can’t put the phone down do you can see at night. Speaking of night driving I am amazed at the number of people now days that drive with their brights on all the time and won’t dim them. I am also amazed at even on low beams most modern cars seem to blind oncoming vehicles. I think

Re: [MBZ] Flying today

2020-12-07 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
It seems like there are more and more mandates happening yet supposedly the cases are going up. Doesn’t seem to add up. I do know that Tulsa recently added to their mandate where health department can fine a business or shut them down for not properly enforcing the masks. Here I am sitting in a

Re: [MBZ] Flying today

2020-12-07 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Another big annoyance, is when you're driving at night, and the idiot sitting beside you fires up a video game on her cell phone with the brightness set at 'blind everybody in the car'... Mitch. On 2020-12-07 09:21, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Another big annoyance. When on a night fli

Re: [MBZ] Flying today

2020-12-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I'm starting to doubt that masks really prevent spread, it seems more likely that summertime, or maybe summertime behaviors prevent spread. The places I go, which admittedly isn't all that often, people seem to be pretty much wearing them. You see a few not wearing or with their nose hanging ou

Re: [MBZ] Flying today

2020-12-07 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Masks are a joke. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 7, 2020, at 8:47 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > We were flying back from Texas yesterday and I noticed the very same thing. > I think I was one of about maybe a dozen people with their shade up. And, the > flight from Dallas to Phoe

Re: [MBZ] Flying today

2020-12-07 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Flew back from Indianapolis on SWA yesterday and the plane was maybe 1/3 -1/2 full. A flight to Baltimore boarded just before us and there were only 40 people on it. Mask wearing was complied with for the most part, I didn’t see anyone trying to “cheat” as we had on previous flights. Had a guy s

Re: [MBZ] Flying today

2020-12-07 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
We were flying back from Texas yesterday and I noticed the very same thing. I think I was one of about maybe a dozen people with their shade up. And, the flight from Dallas to Phoenix was FULL. There were many people on the flight who spent the entire two plus hour flight with a tiny bag of chip

[MBZ] Flying today

2020-12-07 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I am currently on a flight today and have noticed something that I have actually been noticing for a while. It seems like 90-95% of people on planes these days keep the window shade closed. I guess they would rather stare at their electronic boxes that look at the passing scenery as they fly ove

Re: [MBZ] Flying Safety. was: Finnie Fun

2019-02-10 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
As with most statistics, it depends on what and how you measure and where you look. I found this for my son when his future mother-in-law was scared that her daughter was going to die riding with him: "Americans have a 1 in 114 chance of dying in a car crash, according to the National Safety Counc

Re: [MBZ] Flying Safety. was: Finnie Fun

2019-02-10 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I always figured that flying in a small plane (and piloting it) was a much better deal. In a plane I am totally responsible for my own safety (assuming the airplane is in good shape) whereas in a car I am at the mercy of hundreds or thousands of others. --R Sent from iPhone > On Feb 10, 2019,

[MBZ] Flying Safety. was: Finnie Fun

2019-02-09 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
"Cars are safer than planes, if you compare trips. And planes are safer than cars, if you compare miles. Small planes are about 1 death per every 100,000 hours, That ends up being more than cars by any measure. ... It's definitely safer to fly in a small plane than drive in a car, but only 18.5%

[MBZ] Flying Cars

2018-07-12 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE93u40ONwk Which of the above flying cars will be successful? I would bet on the terrafugia. Gerry Terrafugia...Latest version. https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=terrafugia+flying+car+video&&view=detail&mid=639D795D4A06882FE6E3639D795D4A06882FE6E3&&FORM=VRDG

Re: [MBZ] Flying Motorcycle

2017-10-11 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
The body language of the rider / pilot was anything but relaxed. I would imagine it would be very hard to actually pay attention to catch criminals when all of one's focus is on not crashing. - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To searc

Re: [MBZ] Flying Motorcycle

2017-10-11 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On October 11, 2017 at 3:14 PM G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Just think how exciting it would be to fall off that bike into the 4 > rotating propellers... it adds a whole new dimension to the term "Crash and > Burn". > > Or you are in hot pursuit and the battery pack runs empty

Re: [MBZ] Flying Motorcycle

2017-10-11 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Hey! I like to live dangerously. I drive a Prius, you know. Gerry G Mann wrote: > Just think how exciting it would be to fall off that bike into the 4 > rotating propellers... it adds a whole new dimension to the term "Crash and > Burn". > > Or.

Re: [MBZ] Flying Motorcycle

2017-10-11 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Just think how exciting it would be to fall off that bike into the 4 rotating propellers... it adds a whole new dimension to the term "Crash and Burn". Or you are in hot pursuit and the battery pack runs empty at altitude Exciting stuff should be "a lot of fun" at rehab..

[MBZ] Flying Motorcycle

2017-10-11 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
I want one. https://www.thenational.ae/uae/dubai-police-unveils-flying-hoversurf-at-gitex-1.665396 Video: https://www.rt.com/in-motion/406348-dubai-police-flying-bike/ --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com ___ http://www.oki

Re: [MBZ] flying

2015-03-25 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
My first flight ever was on a Boeing 720. Supposedly. Charter flight direct from Spokane to San Diego. All-expenses-paid trip to the Holiday Bowl! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] flying

2015-03-25 Thread clay via Mercedes
They had to pull the boys out of the black hole because the firm was not allowed to use the tech from there on the 777 (same sort of composites theory in 757). The boys were no longer doing skunk works, so what they knew could be applied to civilian aviation instead of getting to adapt DOD tec

Re: [MBZ] flying

2015-03-25 Thread clay via Mercedes
On the 747, you forgot the Pan Am flight the libyans blew up over scotland. That one killed Pan Am clay On Mar 25, 2015, at 2:01 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: > Safest airliners: > > 1. Airbus 340 > The A340 has approximately the same number of flying hours as the 777 and > remains a

Re: [MBZ] flying

2015-03-25 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Re 757 A friend of mine was on the 757 design team. His job was weight reduction in the tail section. He bought a house in mulkilteo to be near the plant. After that, they sent him downtown to work in the black hole with top secret military stuff. Figgers... He put a lot of miles on hi

Re: [MBZ] flying

2015-03-25 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
A buddy of mine who now flies for FedEx but used to fly for Northwest was a 757 pilot. He said they were the "hot rod" of the NW fleet at the time and a joy to fly. Dan > On Mar 25, 2015, at 5:01 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > Safest airliners: > __

Re: [MBZ] flying

2015-03-25 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Safest airliners: 1. Airbus 340 The A340 has approximately the same number of flying hours as the 777 and remains accident-free, making it number one is safety. Number in service: 355 2. Boeing 777 At one accident per eighteen-million hours of flying, the Triple-Seven is number two in safety. A

Re: [MBZ] flying

2015-03-25 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
on List Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 2:51 PM Subject: [MBZ] flying http://www.b737.org.uk/accident_reports.htm http://www.airsafe.com/events/models/rate_mod.htm I still like the Boeing stats after looking at this. Also happy that I don't fly to or around 3

Re: [MBZ] flying

2015-03-25 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 25/03/2015 2:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: From personal experience, I have NEVER flown on ANY Airbus that EVER crashed while I was aboard. They are totally safe in my book. We shall hope your good luck continues. RB ___ http://www.okie

Re: [MBZ] flying

2015-03-25 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Do remember, that once may be sufficient. RB On 25/03/2015 2:55 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Well, that only reinforces my point. On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: I also have never been in a crashed Airbus plane although

Re: [MBZ] flying

2015-03-25 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Andrew Strasfogel > To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 3:18 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] flying > > From personal experience, I have NEVER flown on ANY Airbus that EVER > crashed while I was aboard. They ar

Re: [MBZ] flying

2015-03-25 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I also have never been in a crashed Airbus plane although I'll admit I've only been in A319s and A320s. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] flying From personal experien

Re: [MBZ] flying

2015-03-25 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Mercedes Discussion List > Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 2:51 PM > Subject: [MBZ] flying > > http://www.b737.org.uk/accident_reports.htm > > http://www.airsafe.com/events/models/rate_mod.htm > > I still like the Boeing stats after

Re: [MBZ] flying

2015-03-25 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 2:51 PM Subject: [MBZ] flying http://www.b737.org.uk/accident_reports.htm http://www.airsafe.com/events/models/rate_mod.htm I still like the Boeing stats after looking at this. Also happy that I don't fly to or around 3

Re: [MBZ] flying

2015-03-25 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Thanks for posting that list. I had not looked at that reporting for quite some time. Worthy of notice is the column which reports number of flight hrs for the particular models vs the number of incidents... Airbus takes top billing in each instance... Boeing has millions of flight hrs vs inciden

[MBZ] flying

2015-03-25 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
http://www.b737.org.uk/accident_reports.htm http://www.airsafe.com/events/models/rate_mod.htm I still like the Boeing stats after looking at this. Also happy that I don't fly to or around 3rd world places. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list arch

[MBZ] Flying squirrels was Ick! Mice in car!

2014-12-29 Thread David & Kristin Gilmore via Mercedes
On 12/29/2014 9:27 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: Yesterday I was out puttering around the new addition and heard some skittering above the ceiling panels of a small porch off the side of the house that is not entirely finished. There are some small openings which I have been thinking to f

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-03-01 Thread Curt Raymond
That reminds me, I picked up one of the books in that series at "The Last Bookstore" a couple weeks ago. I forget which one it was, Paris maybe. Need to find it. -Curt Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2014 18:43:12 -0500 From: Mitch Haley To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Flying

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-03-01 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
Aw, c'mon, Dan. When have you ever heard of Kaleb having an accident? Gerry On 3/1/2014 6:24 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: And I would immediately exit the plane and find another means of transportation. Dan On Mar 1, 2014, at 6:03 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Who knows, a few years from no

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-03-01 Thread Mitch Haley
Dan Penoff wrote: And I would immediately exit the plane and find another means of transportation. And if Kaleb still has that "M*A*S*H Goes to Maine" book I gave him, he should get it out and read of the exploits of Wrong Way Napolitano, the backwoods Italian airline pilot. Mitch. ___

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-03-01 Thread Dan Penoff
And I would immediately exit the plane and find another means of transportation. Dan On Mar 1, 2014, at 6:03 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: >>> Who knows, a few years from now we might enter a Delta airliner and Kaleb >>> will be standing there in his captains uniform, with a cute steward

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-03-01 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
On 3/1/2014 12:06 AM, OK Don wrote: I do my own wrenching, so far anyway, and it is nice to have someone else check the work before taking to the air. My butt's on the line, and his license to work is. We both have skin in the game. On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Fmiser wrote: I'd start by

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-28 Thread OK Don
I do my own wrenching, so far anyway, and it is nice to have someone else check the work before taking to the air. My butt's on the line, and his license to work is. We both have skin in the game. On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Fmiser wrote: > > I'd start by getting an A&P (airframe and power

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-28 Thread Curt Raymond
And snowmobiles... -Curt Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2014 14:30:33 -0600 From: Randy Bennell To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Flying Message-ID: <5310f1e9.6030...@bennell.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Applies to boats too! Randy On 28/02/2014 12

[MBZ] Flying: Basic Rules fot Pilots

2014-02-28 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
Try to stay in the middle of the air. Do not go near the edges of it. The edges of the air can be recognized by the appearance of ground, buildings, sea, trees and interstellar space. It is much more difficult to fly there. You know that your landing gear is up and locked when it takes full

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-28 Thread clay
Commercial flying bus route drivers are going to be in short supply as the skilled boys and former military flyboys age out. I do not have figures on the current crop of fighter jet jockeys moving to airlines, but I suspect it is a small number, given the pay and skill set requirements clay

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-28 Thread Randy Bennell
Applies to boats too! Randy On 28/02/2014 12:01 PM, OK Don wrote: YES!!! On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Frederick Moir wrote: Is a cheap aircraft like a cheap Mercedes? Fred Moir ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okie

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-28 Thread Fmiser
> OK wrote: > > Yup - plus the annual inspection ($500 - 1500) and repairs as > needed, etc. It's not cheap - you have to REALLY want to fly. I'd start by getting an A&P (airframe and powerplant) license because I _sure_ don't want to trust my life to another guy wrenching on my airplane. Or jus

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-28 Thread OK Don
YES!!! On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Frederick Moir wrote: > Is a cheap aircraft like a cheap Mercedes? > > Fred Moir > -- OK Don "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775 "in this world nothin

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-28 Thread Frederick Moir
Is a cheap aircraft like a cheap Mercedes?    Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. > > From: Dan Penoff >To: Mercedes Discussion List >Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 12:46 PM >Subject: Re: [MBZ] Flying > > >That's good to know. H

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-28 Thread Dan Penoff
That's good to know. Haven't been behind a stick or yoke for 30 yearsprobably won't be in the future unless I hit the lottery or someone gifts me a plane. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Feb 28, 2014, at 11:53 AM, OK Don wrote: > > Your "ticket" is valid until you screw up and they take it aw

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-28 Thread Randy Bennell
Sounds about like running a boat. Randy On 28/02/2014 10:57 AM, OK Don wrote: Mine burns auto gas at $3.50/gal at the rate of 10GPH, so $35/hr. or so for local flying. AV gas varies wildly from airport to airport, but averages around $6/gal, so $60/hr. cross country. Slower aircraft are usuall

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-28 Thread G Mann
A word of caution regarding fractional ownership of an aircraft. Well, actually several words.. Pick your fellow owners more carefully than you pick a wife. They can ultimately do you great harm. Reduce every aspect of said ownership to written contract and add financial enforcements to each cl

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-28 Thread Gary Hurst
now that is a career path, senor striplin! On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 5:37 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: > There are supposed to be flying jobs in Florida that are plenty cool. > Kaleb would fly from from an unmarked strip in Florida to Colombia and back > with fuel stops along the way. All he

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-28 Thread Gary Hurst
if you were aware of how he picks wives, you'd know you needn't be concerned about him not making a greater effort whilst picking former airplane owners On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 10:32 AM, G Mann wrote: > A word of caution regarding fractional ownership of an aircraft. Well, > actually several wor

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-28 Thread OK Don
Mine burns auto gas at $3.50/gal at the rate of 10GPH, so $35/hr. or so for local flying. AV gas varies wildly from airport to airport, but averages around $6/gal, so $60/hr. cross country. Slower aircraft are usually more economical to fly as the increase in speed is not proportional to the increa

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-28 Thread Dan Penoff
My Dad's first Beech was a fractional with two doctors. It was a nightmare. They would take it without scheduling, never clean it up when they were done, just a general disregard for the other owners as a whole. After we showed up at the hangar for a weekend trip to our place on Sanibel Island

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-28 Thread OK Don
Your "ticket" is valid until you screw up and they take it away. Your medical has to be current and you need a flight review. I just started again after a 30+ year hiatus due to raising kids, etc. On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: > I have over 400 hours of left seat time in t

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-28 Thread OK Don
Minor corrections ( the rest is accurate) : There is a short list of maintenance items that the owner can perform and sign off in the log book that includes changing the oil. Then there is the "owner assist" maintenance and inspections where you do all the work "under the supervision" of an A&P or

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-28 Thread Randy Bennell
And what does fuel run per hour? Randy On 27/02/2014 9:06 PM, OK Don wrote: Yup - plus the annual inspection ($500 - 1500) and repairs as needed, etc. It's not cheap - you have to REALLY want to fly. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: So you buy a plane and if you don

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-28 Thread Randy Bennell
On 28/02/2014 9:32 AM, G Mann wrote: A word of caution regarding fractional ownership of an aircraft. Well, actually several words.. Pick your fellow owners more carefully than you pick a wife. They can ultimately do you great harm. True. Pick very good pilots and honest people too. If they

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-28 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
There are supposed to be flying jobs in Florida that are plenty cool. Kaleb would fly from from an unmarked strip in Florida to Colombia and back with fuel stops along the way. All he needs to do is learn how to take off and land a small plane and then sign up after a test flight. He'll ride

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-27 Thread dseretakis
Yeah, like your local anesthesiologist. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 27, 2014, at 10:40 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > > Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: >> So you buy a plane and if you don't live on the airport like you, I guess >> you got to pay for a hangar or to park it at the airport. Seems to be >>

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-27 Thread dseretakis
Yes Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 27, 2014, at 10:51 PM, Mountain Man wrote: > > ?? wrote: >> Why don't you come up to Maine and have Jon teach you how to fly? We even >> have our own airport:) > > Jon flies for Delta? > mao > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.co

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-27 Thread Gary Hurst
he's not serious. you do know this, right? On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 11:57 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: > > Kaleb, look at it this way: Recall your recent fun with Delta. Now think > how the guys with the front-facing windows got jerked around similarly, but > with a lot more stress. Now think abou

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-27 Thread Scott Ritchey
Kaleb, look at it this way: Recall your recent fun with Delta. Now think how the guys with the front-facing windows got jerked around similarly, but with a lot more stress. Now think about doing that 15-20 days every month, and that's after you've reached the peak of the profession. Now consid

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-27 Thread Russ Williams
I beg to differ with that statement. I hold an ATP and have 3+ years of flying time. Russ W. who hung up his shoulder boards 10 years ago. On 2/27/2014 20:12, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Why not.? AFAIK Jon is the only real pilot here! Sent from my iPhone _

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-27 Thread Dieselhead
Dieselhead wrote: MN Fats sed: If anything, it would be NY... not MN... mao MN was famous. A pool hustler. seems appropriate ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery option

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-27 Thread Mountain Man
Dieselhead wrote: > MN Fats sed: If anything, it would be NY... not MN... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/merce

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-27 Thread Dieselhead
MN Fats sed: back in georgia, we had... and her plain sat 20 feet from the back of the house. most clever! Plain what? plain field of horseweed? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or chang

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-27 Thread Mountain Man
Mitch wrote: > The trick is to find co-owners who are too busy making money to actually be > using the plane when you want to fly it. Kaleb wants to make money while flying, I think. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.c

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-27 Thread Mountain Man
?? wrote: > Why don't you come up to Maine and have Jon teach you how to fly? We even > have our own airport:) > Jon flies for Delta? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery o

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-27 Thread Mountain Man
Dan wrote: > I think you better adjust that figure. > > I have seen numbers for people flying the regional puddle jumpers around $20k. > And that is left seat SIC. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Uns

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-27 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: So you buy a plane and if you don't live on the airport like you, I guess you got to pay for a hangar or to park it at the airport. Seems to be getting more expensive by the minute. That's why it's so popular to own 1/3 to 1/5 of an airplane. The trick is to find co-o

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-27 Thread Mountain Man
Kaleb wrote: > ...but damn it seems like a cool job. I think many people agree that it seems like a cool job. You burn out quick due to schedule and pay. And much flying today is computer control glass cockpit which I think will doom flying. Get on with the big birds and there is money but they

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-27 Thread Mountain Man
Dan wrote: > I also think you're nuts. If you're considering trying to fly commercial, if > you get hired, it's long hours and pretty lousy pay. > There is zero money in being pilot until you get to big birds. My son flies lear35 in ABQ air ambulance. Go to local school in all your spare time.

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-27 Thread Gary Hurst
back in georgia, we had a flute woman who took care of the equipment, a very spiritual thai woman. her house was some super crappy modern cheap no soul house, so naturally i ripped into her for it. she calmly suggested i might go out the back door and have a look. her house backed up to a privat

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-27 Thread OK Don
Now you know why I sold all my Mercedes! You might pay for the airplane a lessons if you sold all of yours :-) On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > So you buy a plane and if you don't live on the airport like you, I guess > you got to pay for a hangar or to park it at the

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-27 Thread OK Don
Yup - plus the annual inspection ($500 - 1500) and repairs as needed, etc. It's not cheap - you have to REALLY want to fly. On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > So you buy a plane and if you don't live on the airport like you, I guess > you got to pay for a hangar or to pa

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-27 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
So you buy a plane and if you don't live on the airport like you, I guess you got to pay for a hangar or to park it at the airport. Seems to be getting more expensive by the minute. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 27, 2014, at 8:05 PM, OK Don wrote: > > 12 - 40k, depending on equipment. Yes, it

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-27 Thread dseretakis
If I had an airport in my backyard I'd use it to race my 240D. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 27, 2014, at 9:10 PM, OK Don wrote: > > Having your own airport in your backyard is the ONLY way to go . . . > > >> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 8:06 PM, wrote: >> >> Why don't you come up to Maine and ha

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-27 Thread dseretakis
Why not.? AFAIK Jon is the only real pilot here! Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 27, 2014, at 9:10 PM, Jon Agne wrote: > > I do not think he wants ”Jon” to teach him how to fly. > > >> On Feb 27, 2014, at 9:06 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: >> >> Why don't you come up to Maine and have Jon tea

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-27 Thread Jon Agne
I do not think he wants ”Jon” to teach him how to fly. On Feb 27, 2014, at 9:06 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: > Why don't you come up to Maine and have Jon teach you how to fly? We even > have our own airport:) > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 27, 2014, at 6:43 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin" w

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-27 Thread OK Don
Having your own airport in your backyard is the ONLY way to go . . . On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 8:06 PM, wrote: > Why don't you come up to Maine and have Jon teach you how to fly? We even > have our own airport:) > > > -- OK Don "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little tempora

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-27 Thread dseretakis
Why don't you come up to Maine and have Jon teach you how to fly? We even have our own airport:) Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 27, 2014, at 6:43 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > > How much you suppose a 150 or 172 costs these days? Is it better in the long > run to buy plane and pay instructor

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-27 Thread OK Don
12 - 40k, depending on equipment. Yes, it is usually better to buy the plane than to pay rental fees, if you don't get one that needs a lot of maintenance/repairs. A pre-buy inspection by an IA who is working for you is highly recommended. One that is IFR certified with the latest gizmos will be at

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-27 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
It sucked Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 27, 2014, at 4:24 PM, "arche...@embarqmail.com" > wrote: > > Tell us about your vacation, Kaleb. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or ch

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-27 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
How much you suppose a 150 or 172 costs these days? Is it better in the long run to buy plane and pay instructor or rent plane also? Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 27, 2014, at 1:35 PM, OK Don wrote: > > One of my neighbor's roommate is a flight instructor and also flies > pipeline patrol. He's

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-27 Thread Randy Bennell
I think, most pilots are glorified bus drivers. With all the modern stuff, it is not as interesting as the old days. Get on, kick in the auto pilot and try to stay awake and ready if an emergency arises. Train, train, train for a situation that you truly hope never arises and then if it does, pr

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-27 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
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Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-27 Thread G Mann
Take all the letters in "aviation" ... move them to any configuration you wish, and it will never spell "cheap", so buckle up your wallet if you want to gain advanced ratings. I presently hold a Commercial, Instrument, multi engine, low level acrobatic, restricted category, and agriculture endorse

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-27 Thread Dan Penoff
I think you better adjust that figure. I have seen numbers for people flying the regional puddle jumpers around $20k. I read an article recently about a pilot for one of the regional airlines who qualified for public assistance. Dan > On Feb 27, 2014, at 1:50 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: >

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-27 Thread Dan Penoff
True, but he still has a lot of contacts who are still flying. I can't imagine that it's changed enough that the many years of experience he has wouldn't still be of some value. Doesn't Mao's son still fly cargo? Dan > On Feb 27, 2014, at 1:51 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > > Denial has be

Re: [MBZ] Flying

2014-02-27 Thread OK Don
One of my neighbor's roommate is a flight instructor and also flies pipeline patrol. He's in his late 20's, don't know how long he will put up with the low pay and long hours, when the weather cooperates. My instructor flies part time, but his main income is from construction. A lot of people buy

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