Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap brake hose/ anti-seize on brake bleeders

2011-12-06 Thread Rich Thomas
Yeah, what he said. --R On 12/5/11 9:22 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Hans Neureiterdiese...@gmail.com writes: And patiencently applied skill. Remember, soft steel (hex rounds off) and hollow (shears at the weak pont = end of threads). If all fails, Easy-Out. No drilling! Tapered seat below. And

Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap brake hose/ anti-seize on brake bleeders

2011-12-06 Thread Randy Bennell
On 05/12/2011 8:22 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Hans Neureiterdiese...@gmail.com writes: And patiencently applied skill. Remember, soft steel (hex rounds off) and hollow (shears at the weak pont = end of threads). If all fails, Easy-Out. No drilling! Tapered seat below. And if you think you're in

Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap brake hose/ anti-seize on brake bleeders

2011-12-06 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I bet the caliper rebuilders love receiving those cores! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 6, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 05/12/2011 8:22 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Hans Neureiterdiese...@gmail.com writes: And patiencently applied skill. Remember, soft steel (hex

Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap brake hose/ anti-seize on brake bleeders

2011-12-06 Thread Gerry Archer
Probably not all rebuilders. Rebuilder of a set I bought had apparently drilled out and rethreaded the ports and installed bigger bleeder valves that could only be loosened/tightened with a U.S. size wrench. Don't know if the threads were metric or U.S. Gerry From: Dimitri Seretakis

Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap brake hose/ anti-seize on brake bleeders

2011-12-05 Thread Jim Cathey
What are the bleeder screws actually made of? Brass? Steel? Do they so often get stuck due to galvanic action between dissimilar metals or simply rusting? Brake fittings are hollow steel, thus somewhat weak, and they rust. There's a lot of heat and water down there, not to mention road salt.

Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap brake hose/ anti-seize on brake bleeders

2011-12-05 Thread Hans Neureiter
And patiencently applied skill. Remember, soft steel (hex rounds off) and hollow (shears at the weak pont = end of threads). If all fails, Easy-Out. No drilling! Tapered seat below. Brake fittings are hollow steel, thus somewhat weak, and they rust. There's a lot of heat and water down there,

Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap brake hose/ anti-seize on brake bleeders

2011-12-05 Thread Allan Streib
Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com writes: And patiencently applied skill. Remember, soft steel (hex rounds off) and hollow (shears at the weak pont = end of threads). If all fails, Easy-Out. No drilling! Tapered seat below. And if you think you're in a fix when the bleeder shears off, just

Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap brake hose/ anti-seize on brake bleeders

2011-12-04 Thread Dieselhead
As Elmer Fudd used to say: Be vewy vewy careful Coat the threads, but not the tip. Actually, I think Elmer's quote is overdone. Just be careful to only put it on the threads. Well, I think you have convinced me! I tremble every time I crack open a bleeder that looks rusty. I will start

Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap brake hose/ anti-seize on brake bleeders

2011-12-04 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
How about just the tip? Sorry, I couldn't help myself:) Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: As Elmer Fudd used to say: Be vewy vewy careful Coat the threads, but not the tip. Actually, I think Elmer's quote is overdone. Just be careful to

Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap brake hose/ anti-seize on brake bleeders

2011-12-04 Thread Russ Williams
If you do just the tip Your Fuzes WILL MELT :-D On 12/4/2011 11:36 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: How about just the tip? Sorry, I couldn't help myself:) Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Dieselhead126die...@gmail.com wrote: As Elmer Fudd used to say: Be vewy vewy careful

Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap brake hose/ anti-seize on brake bleeders

2011-12-04 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Tell me about it' Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4, 2011, at 1:19 PM, Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net wrote: If you do just the tip Your Fuzes WILL MELT :-D On 12/4/2011 11:36 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: How about just the tip? Sorry, I couldn't help myself:) Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4,

Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap brake hose/ anti-seize on brake bleeders

2011-12-04 Thread Allan Streib
What about using pipe-sealing teflon tape on the bleeder threads? That would not tend to migrate to anywhere else, would it? Allan Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com writes: As Elmer Fudd used to say: Be vewy vewy careful Coat the threads, but not the tip. Actually, I think Elmer's quote is

Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap brake hose/ anti-seize on brake bleeders

2011-12-04 Thread Dieselhead
Many professionals I know won't use tape anywhere. The little shreds go everywhere. They cause problems in gas valves, hydraulics etc. What about using pipe-sealing teflon tape on the bleeder threads? That would not tend to migrate to anywhere else, would it? Allan Dieselhead

Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap brake hose/ anti-seize on brake bleeders

2011-12-04 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I like that idea. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4, 2011, at 2:35 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: What about using pipe-sealing teflon tape on the bleeder threads? That would not tend to migrate to anywhere else, would it? Allan Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com writes: As Elmer Fudd

Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap brake hose/ anti-seize on brake bleeders

2011-12-04 Thread G Mann
Teflon tape should NOT be used in hydraulic systems. The seal effect relys on the cone shape of the tip and the area it sets in.. NOT the threads. More importantly, anti-seize compounds use materials that make a barrier against the thread and the body doing a rust weld and becoming one solid

Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap brake hose/ anti-seize on brake bleeders

2011-12-04 Thread Allan Streib
What are the bleeder screws actually made of? Brass? Steel? Do they so often get stuck due to galvanic action between dissimilar metals or simply rusting? G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com writes: Teflon tape should NOT be used in hydraulic systems. The seal effect relys on the cone shape of the tip

Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap brake hose/ anti-seize on brake bleeders

2011-12-04 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
They are made of steel but being hollow except for the conical seating surface at the base, they don't tolerate a lot of torque. They simply shear. This has happened to be at least three times and is a major pita. The last time it happened was on my pagoda. I couldn't get a replacement caliper

Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap brake hose/ anti-seize on brake bleeders

2011-12-03 Thread Dieselhead
When bleeding, the fluid is outbound, so no prob. If you are worrying about the minute contact of fluid with threads at the time the bleeder is closed, first I think it is inconsequential as the bleeder cuts off the fluid maybe 1/4 inside before the threads, so that minuscule potential

Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap brake hose/ anti-seize on brake bleeders

2011-12-03 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Well, I think you have convinced me! I tremble every time I crack open a bleeder that looks rusty. I will start applying the antiseize from now on. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4, 2011, at 12:04 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: When bleeding, the fluid is outbound, so no prob. If you